wall street journal and speech writer for george w. bush. what we all know there is another deadline. february 15th. will there be another shutdown over this border security debate? i don t think there will be another shutdown. i think where we re going is the obvious deal was border wall funding in exchange for a daca solution, right? mrs. pelosi has made clear she is not willing to consider that. so i think that the president is going to go with this national emergency because he wants the wall funding and so forth. i think it would be better to have a legislative solution for something that big but i can see why he would want to go for that. sandra: on pelosi the president in that interview over the weekend said this. she is costing the country hundreds of billions of dollars because what is happening is when you have a porous border and when you have drugs powering pouring in and people like nancy pelosi who
kevin mccarthy of california congressman, welcome back to meet the press. thanks for having me back. on day one of the shutdown, the president had a deal in front of him that was essentially a continuing resolution for three weeks no wall. that s the deal he agreed to on day 35 what was accomplished? nobody likes to go into a shutdown one thing i if you look at winners and losers, i don t know why someone would celebrate a status quo i watched the pretty in every one of the meetings offer a reasonable solution. i watched then leader pelosi spend a new historic time on the floor of the house, eight hours talking about sda cra., we don we don t have the daca solution solved we still have a problem at the border we don t have that solved. we have three weeks to go. i watched speaker pelosi and would not negotiate with anything i give president trump a lot of credit i put the american people before politics he said after 35 days for 35 days, what did he get i m not celebrat
more, a brick and mortar wall? i think the daca solution is very positive. charlie do you see it s a matter of semantics, you know, arguing over, you know, how to define border security? is it barriers, is it wall, is it technology? is that the fine tuning that is standing in the way of coming to a deal? well, it seems like we re at the point where there can be real negotiation. look, i ve said all a long the way out of this thing is to reopen the government and then simply negotiation probably $2 billion to $3 billion at the end of the day for border security. now define that. border agents. technology. a whole number of things. in exchange for that, real protection to the daca population. is that what it s being hung up, on the language there or in the amount? well, both. i don t think the democrats will
the president pro-offer something so we re on the offense. my column said that my suggestion was the president, in order to get on the offense say look, i want this money for the border wall. in return, i will provide a solution we will come to an agreement on daca, the dreamers. the people brought here as children who are here illegally but known no other country than the united states of america as their home. that i think would give put him on the offense rather than being on the receiving side. then it s up to the democrats to answer, well, we don t want that. we all voted a bunch of us voted for the wall. we all supported president obama when he built the wall. but today we re not going to give him $5 billion of the federal budget for border security in return for a daca solution. that won t be a good place for the democrats to be. dana: we ll continue to follow that over the weekend. i booked you to talk about the
yoe opioi opioids. but you made the argument that a daca solution should not be attached to anything else, should not be attached to wall funding. you went as far to call it a huge mistake in politics to link things like that together. has your position changed? well, actually on daca, i do think the right thing to do for all of us is to acknowledge the children brought here by their parents at age 4 or 5 years old, committed no crime and those folks should be given legal status. you are willing to link the two in a deal maybe for wall funding for a daca solution. it sounds like that; am i right? well, you re partly right. but here is the bottom line. the immigration issue involves border security. it involves status for the dreamers. it involves status for folks not here legally and how do we address that. and it also includes addressing our labor issues like especially