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declared a state of emergency. in cuba the hurricane knocked out the electricity grid leaving the entire country without power. now on bbc news. hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk. i m stephen sackur. vladimir putin did not intend to be in the place he s in right now. he didn t want his ukraine invasion to become a protracted war in which his army is losing ground. he didn t plan to forcibly mobilise military age men across russia, and he didn t want to see internal protests spread. but this is where he is seemingly in trouble. my guest is putin loyalist, russian mp and influential state media commentator evgeny popov. if putin is growing desperate, what does that mean for russia? evgeny popov in moscow, welcome to hardtalk. thank you, stephen, for giving me that floor. oh, it s a pleasure to have you on the show. if i may, i want to begin with words from the kremlin chief spokesman dmitry peskov, on september 13th, he stated quite clearly there were no plans for any kind ....
popov. if putin is growing desperate, what does that mean for russia? evgeny popov in moscow, welcome to hardtalk. thank you, stephen, for giving me that floor. oh, it s a pleasure to have you on the show. if i may, i want to begin with words from the kremlin chief spokesman dmitry peskov, on september 13th, he stated quite clearly there were no plans for any kind of mobilisation in russia. here we are less than two weeks later with a major mobilisation. what happened 7 it s not major mobilisation. this is partially mobilisation. wejust mobilised er, 300,000 people from reserve. it s just 1% from our total reserve people. i don t know what is happening with peskov s statement, but i know that we are in war with all nato countries. with whole, sorry, nato alliance, with whole nato weapon, and we should respond on nato s threat. that s it. well. that s why my country is responding by mobilisation. you just called it a war. you know, you can get locked up for five years in ....
he didn t plan to forcibly mobilise military age men across russia, and he didn t want to see internal protests spread. but this is where he is seemingly in trouble. my guest is putin loyalist, russian mp and influential state media commentator evgeny popov. if putin is growing desperate, what does that mean for russia? evgeny popov in moscow, welcome to hardtalk. thank you, stephen, for giving me that floor. oh, it s a pleasure to have you on the show. if i may, i want to begin with words from the kremlin chief spokesman dmitry peskov, on september 13th, he stated quite clearly there were no plans for any kind of mobilisation in russia. here we are less than two weeks later with a major mobilisation. what happened 7 it s not major mobilisation. this is partially mobilisation. wejust mobilised er, 300,000 people from reserve. it s just 1% from our total reserve people. i don t know what is happening with peskov s statement, but i know that we are in war with all nato ....
Are fleeing, trying to get out of your country by any means possible? why? how many people. how many? ..are fleeing? how many? yeah. how many? well, put it this way. you know, stephen, we have. put it this way. mr popov. let me. put it this way. there has been a traffic jam on the land border to georgia of some 20km. it is taking people 70 hours to get across that border. they are desperate to get out. that s why a flight to istanbul costs tens of thousands of dollars. you can t get one, because your countrymen want to get out. why? but much more people is going to their military. much more people is in a patriotic mind and they are going to the war. much more people. ....
A special military operation from the very beginning. he insisted that anybody who referred to it as a war was committing a crime. you ve clearly changed. lots of things have changed. if you re calling it a war, why is it a war that so many russians of military age who could be called up are fleeing, trying to get out of your country by any means possible? why? how many people. how many? ..are fleeing? how many? yeah. how many? well, put it this way. you know, stephen, we have. put it this way. let. mr popov. let me. let me tell you. put it this way. there has been a traffic jam on the land border to georgia of some 20km. it is taking people 70 hours to get across that border. they are desperate to get out. that s why a flight to istanbul costs tens of thousands of dollars. you can t get one, because your countrymen want to get out. ....