happened two weeks ago. lying to a federal official charge, that s five years or more. i get the impression that muell mueller s investigation is really heating up following the other indictments. you can tell that by the public signs. as we saw a week or so ago, how much privately mueller is doing in only revealing you know, with people were cooperting who we don t yet know about. so i think there s a lot of activity going on. there s potential for more indictments and more interviews. i m sure the president is watching all this and his staff at the white house is reporting on it. they re all pretty nervous. i think he said it. if you re in the white house, if you had done something, ooempb if it was very, very little, you are concerned at this point. i think what the president is thinking now, how do i telegraph the people that i will get them off. that if they are indicted, convicted of something, how can i go in and get them off and i m sure that s going through his mind.