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now they are in this mess and they can t see a way out of it. let me underscore what you are arguing here. let s look at the nbc wall street journal poll. it gives the president 31% of the blame for the shutdown. but the gop gets a whooping 53 % of the blame. again is that largely because republicans pursued this futile if not dilutional strategy to de fund or delay obamacare. they of course now have completely and utterly abandoned. it is in that poll i was talking about. i know you had a fox news poll that showed the opposite. the approval went from 31 to 38%. when in reality the focus of this, if it was not to fund the obamacare strategy to shutdown the government would be on the terrible implementation of the health care policy and the health care law and the exchanges. the idea that the approval would be go up for obamacare during this period is staggering to me. it can only be because the

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