that he's watching the polls, which is why you feel the president is now coming to the table? >> yes. >> i want to go back to you. you're saying listen, they have to, everybody has a right to say in what's being put on the table. so when you tell your fellow conservative republicans don't cave, what does that mean? and how do you respond to some of your fellow republicans who are saying, like, this infighting, it's hurting the party's brand. >> the party's brand was hurt with t.a.r.p. it was hurt with so many things. but especially 2 1/2 years ago, when we made an offer to cut some of the massive overspending and the president and harry reid said nope, it's our way or the highway. we're hoping for a shutdown. >> but you're not blaping either? let's just have some honest talk right now. >> yes, honest talk is exactly