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trey: good evening and thank you for joining us i am trey gowdy and it is sunday night in america. every four years they tell us this is the most important election of our lifetime. usually it is hyperbole. sometimes it is simply logical sense it s the next election it s there for the most important. but i will concede this election cycle does the field disproportionately consequential. our country is at a real crossroads. more people are questioning democracy as a system of government. americans seem less interested in working things out in more ae interested in duking things out. maybe 82024 is the most important election of our lifetime. regardless it is definitely the next one and is 10 months away. joining us now are two old friends of the show washington times opinion editor charlie hurt the handsome hurt brother as i call him and former biden surrogate democrat strategist kevin wall. you ve got to help me with this when there are prominent republicans and conse ....
there are eight rose bowls full of illegal immigrants that came across the border just since october 1st, mr. secretary. bret, the numbers are historic. the numbers are extraordinarily large. this is something that is not specific to the united states southern border. bret: but you think it is a crisis now? bret, it is a challenge that we have been addressing vigorously with all the tools and resources we have been provided. bill: a challenge, not a crisis. his hands are tied, don t blame us. those were the answers from secretary mayorkas saying there is nothing more he can do on the border. illegal migrants totally unchecked one after the other. good morning, it s friday. you ve almost made it. 9:00 a.m. in new york. i m bill hemmer. dana: can i say one thing about that interview? peter and i watched it last night. peter is from europe. when mayorkas mayorkas said this is not a problem not unique to america. he is talking about the scope and scale. it is so d ....
voters are asking for. all right, matt duss, thank you very much. that is all in for this week. alex wagner tonight starts right now with ali velshi in for alex. good evening, ali. important point there, this isn t an either or, all or nothing, don t support israel or do support israel. it s a measure of condition that goes along with the aid that we give ukraine or any other country that says we have to prosecute this war in a different way. in fact, it s interesting one of the things that we learned, right, during the early days of the war was very intense conditions placed on ukraine about attacks in russia, specifically because of fears of blow back, of escalation. and it was, this was an active conversation, very, ve clearly. very early, and they re constantly. i m glad you brought that up. thank you, my friend. have aooweekend. thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. i am ali velshi in for alex wagner. last month, the united states economy ga ....
,. Good to go, all right. Hello, new york. Thank you for joining us, live at in new york city for this very, very Special Edition of why is this happening . He is insightful, he is big hearted, very, very very smart. Admit it, hes taller than you expected. Please give a warm welcome to my friend, my beloved colleague, and msnbcs chris hayes. [applause] hello, everybody. Hello thank you. Oh, stop. [applause] stop it [applause] how are you . Good . Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Sit down, sit down, sit down. Thank you, thats extremely kind. I hate attention and positive feedback. Really, really hard 20 seconds for me. Thank you for cutting it short. Its amazing to be here in my hometown of new york city, ive got some family here. Tonight, were gonna talk about democracy. In that word, weve probably talked more about democracy in the last four or five years that i had in all of my time before than i would say. Even that ....
wagner. ron desantis described it as a crisis at war. donald trump called it an invasion. with less than two weeks left until the iowa caucuses, today, trump and desantis published dueling op-eds in the des moines register. both cast immigration as the most pressing problem facing our country. both candidates promised that they, and they alone, can t fix it. now, what both trump and desantis are advancing in these offices, neither actually fixes to our country s border issues, nor are they actually immigration policies. but they are the sort of plans you can tell people that you have, and they are articulating them to the public. they want to let fewer brown people in. they want immigration to be the most painful process possible. they want to set new records in deportations. again, none of that really addresses any of the root causes of migration, for the actual problems with our immigration system, which are real. but it is a plan, and it s a plan around which repub ....