in this case, the sky is falling, because there s another plea deal. i think we have to wait and see how it plays out. i don t believe that michael cohen, what he says is gospel, and i don t believe anybody can credibly think that either. you say that mueller, well, he s a very important witness. so was manafort a very important witness, we saw what happened to that last week, who knows how this is going to play out in terms of the credibility of michael cohen. two things berit. the reason mueller believes cohen isn t just that he feels it, right? it s because they have proof of communications that extended beyond the date that cohen originally gave. the original narrative was upset by proof. that s why mueller believes him. it s not a personality contest. why is it never enough for those who support the president to point out lying.
russia, at that very moment he did. at that very moment, during the campaign when he was the presumptive nominee for his party, they came up with that weird plank in the platform that favored russia, he did have aspirations of having a deal with russia on a development deal where putin may be gifted a $50 million apartment to drew suitors. isn t that something the american people should know? we don t know when he knew about it. he knew enough to cancel the deal. he might not have known the facts relating to sweetening the deal. marketing the deal. a signed letter of intent. i agree with you, and to some extent, the only person as of today, that we know is guilty is michael cohen. he admitted he was guilty. i agree we cannot rush to judgment about who knew what when. the only person today who is guilty is michael cohen. my point is, if everything is
for several years now. did he serve as some kind of conduit between the trump campaign and moscow, and, two, what, if anything, did he tell people on the trump campaign including then candidate trump himself? then was there actual coordination in terms of disseminating a stolen e-mail. another person who was also close to the president who has been talking to mueller is michael cohen. he has made headlines again telling vanity fair that the president has this racist language in several private conversations with him. for example, coin says they were discussing turnout for one of trump s 2016 campaign rallies, and i told trump that the rally looked vanilla on television. trump responded. that s because black people are too stupid to vote for me. then there s this. he says after nelson mandela died, trump said name one country run by a black person where that s not an s-hole. name one city. we all know cohen isn t exactly the epitome of truthfulness. what s your take on cohen s cre
cohen released a secret recording of himself and the president discussing a possible payment to mcdougal. let s listen to this tape recording. i need to open up a company for the transfer of all of that info regarding our friend david. so that i m going to do that right away. i ve actually come up and i ve spoken to allen weisselberg about how to set the whole thing up. with so what are we going to pay? yes. and it s all the stuff all the stuff. because here you never know where that company you never know what he s maybe he gets hit by a truck. correct. so i m all over that. and i spoke to allen about it. when it comes time for the financing, which will be way a sec, what financing? we ll have to pay cash. no, no, no. no, no. cohen isn t a new figure in trump world. of course in a tape from 2015 released by npr this year, he made an astonishing claim to a reporter asking about allegations by trump s first wife ivana in a 1989 deposition
chris, i think we should stop considering rudy giuliani as a lawyer for purposes of defending donald trump or really any other purposes. this is not somebody this is somebody who has done as much to make the case that donald trump could be implicated in crimes as he has to take away from it. he goes and says this isn t you know, this isn t campaign money. well, that s not actual good for donald trump s case here. rudy giuliani has, you know, done the job he s been asked to, much like many other trump aides have, which is to go out and say things for the president that are not true, absurd, things that can be disproven immediately and sometimes things that evolve and can later be disproven. we ve seen between the president and giuliani and all the other people who ve represented the president the story about the hush money payments just change from there were no hush money payments, the president didn t know about the hush money payments, he didn t know about them till later on, a