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information being leaked to china. we have to have the evidence. our greatest fear initially was, will we catch chi mak doing what we thought he was already doing? the allegation itself is not enough to be able to conduct a search warrant into a house or monitor through their telephone. so on the chi mak investigation, we began by doing dumpster diving. that s one method that doesn t give notice to the person we re investigating that we re involved. we look at it when they don t know we re looking at it. you re looking through trash that s been sitting there at least a week. usually in hot weather. there s maggots, smells, everything you can imagine. one of the ways that gunnar endeared himself to the others
being leaked to china. we have to have the evidence. our greatest fear initially was, will we catch chi mak doing what we thought he was already doing? the allegation itself is not enough to be able to conduct a search warrant into a house or monitor through their telephone. so on the chi mak investigation, we began by doing dumpster diving. that s one method that doesn t give notice to the person we re investigating that we re involved. we look at it when they don t know we re looking at it. you re looking through trash that s been sitting there at least a week. usually in hot weather. there s maggots, smells, everything you can imagine. one of the ways that gunnar endeared himself to the others on the squad was he wasn t above doing the trash either.