need inside is medical attention and probably need it now. no question, earlier the physical demands of crossing that border, both short term and the long term psychological effects are something that have people here very concerned, richard. they know we got to go here but chaos level one to ten because the reporting being the ogdenizations involved, the state agencies and federal agencies involved today are not coordinating well. one to ten what s the chaos level would you say, cal? reporter: ten, and speaking just earlier to a couple rival organizations, i hear one thing, they hear something completely different. we re all getting conflicting information. it s conflicting. great, thank you so much for doing that. i know it s not always the best question to ask but we didn t have much time. appreciate it. that s the story. appreciate it. let s bring in daniel, moody mills on sirus km and nick. let s start with you on this,
out. forget you, sean spicer, i m going to go head to head. and had a highly qualified guy taken the position the same day he would have turned the corner on what was a tough week. this is where the chaos work against you because the seal ethos is different from a white house ethos. harward looked at that and said i m not sure i can hang in that environment. having qualified people in that position, that s where it starts working against him. the other part of the seal ethos and many branches of the military, of the services is duty. it s very hard for a military man or woman to turn down the president in this space. and i just wonder if this gives license to others to say no. well, it s clear that he had concerns about the chaos level. trump likes chaos, military people don t, a lot of people with government experience do not like chaos. also questions about who he would have been allow today hire, would he have been able to put his own people in there. for trump, the contrast