need inside is medical attention and probably need it now. no question, earlier the physical demands of crossing that border, both short term and the long term psychological effects are something that have people here very concerned, richard. they know we got to go here but chaos level one to ten because the reporting being the ogdenizations involved, the state agencies and federal agencies involved today are not coordinating well. one to ten what s the chaos level would you say, cal? reporter: ten, and speaking just earlier to a couple rival organizations, i hear one thing, they hear something completely different. we re all getting conflicting information. it s conflicting. great, thank you so much for doing that. i know it s not always the best question to ask but we didn t have much time. appreciate it. that s the story. appreciate it. let s bring in daniel, moody mills on sirus km and nick. let s start with you on this,