Lost the election, and the election wasnt stolen through fraud. Theyre going to have to prove that beyond reasonable doubt. Which is a high bar, of course. A high bar. That leads me to believe that we are seeing the tip of the iceberg on this. Do you think jackson of has more . Yes. I would believe he has a lot more. Okay, lets bring in Michael Cohen, Donald Trumps former fixer, and attory. He is now a principle of crisis x. He is the host of the mea culpa, and political beatdown podcast, and the author of the New York Times bestseller revenge how donald trump weaponized the u. S. Department of justice against his critics. Great to have you tonight. Good to be with. You heard the former Attorney General say that he believes that donald trump knew that he lost the election, and what do you think about that being a defense, that his attorneys are going to say . He believes there are Election Fraud dont nobody could show evidence of it. Donald will now reach to any defense he thinks will
At first, i wasnt sure. But i have come to believe that he knew well he had lost the election. And now, what i think is important is the government assumed the burden of proving that. The government, in the indictment, takes the position that he had actual knowledge that he had lost the election and the election wasnt stolen through fraud. They have to prove that beyond a reasonable doubt. Thats a high bar. That leads me to believe that were only seeing the tip of the iceberg. You believe jack smith has more . I believe he has a lot more. Lets bring in Michael Cohen, Donald Trumps former fixer and attorney. Hes a principal of crisis. Hes the author of the New York Times best seller, revenge how donald trump weaponized the Department Of Justice against his critics. Michael, great to have you here tonight. You heard the former Attorney General, he believes that donald trump knew he lost the election. And what do you think about that being a defense, that his attorneys are going to say, h
to address his various fraud claims on that call. he debunked the claims and in detail on that call. lie number 14, the false claim about a nefarious dump vote in michigan. he repeated this the day after barr directly explained to him what had happened in detroit was normal standard vote counting. lies 15 and 16 were the pennsylvania and wisconsin, two more swing states had more votes than actual voters. doj officials told trump this was untrue. but he still used the pennsylvania part in his preriot january 6th speech. 17 is the trump lie in that speech, that pennsylvania wanted to recertify its election results, showing the biden victory. some republicans in the state did. but the democratic governor and elections chief, the people that had the certification power, did not. and lies 18 through 21, finally, are assorted false claims about various states. 18 that nevada had tens of thousands of double votes.
just a normal standard vote counting. lies number, 15, 16 is that pennsylvania and wisconsin, eight more states have more votes than actual voters. doj officials told trump that this clearly untrue claim was indeed untrue. but he still use the pennsylvania park, it is pretty right, january six. speech line number 17 is trump s lie in that same speech that pennsylvania wanted to re-certify his election result showing the biden victory. some republicans in the state, did but the democratic governor said that the people who actually had the certification power did not. and lies number 18 through 21 finally are assorted false claims about various states. 18 at nevada, had tens of thousands of double vote, and nonresidents have voted in arizona. wrong again. 20 to 26 non citizens voted in arizona, trump s campaign and finally, 21 that wisconsin had major fraud and tens of thousands of unlawful votes and once again all baseless.