Lost the election, and the election wasnt stolen through fraud. Theyre going to have to prove that beyond reasonable doubt. Which is a high bar, of course. A high bar. That leads me to believe that we are seeing the tip of the iceberg on this. Do you think jackson of has more . Yes. I would believe he has a lot more. Okay, lets bring in Michael Cohen, Donald Trumps former fixer, and attory. He is now a principle of crisis x. He is the host of the mea culpa, and political beatdown podcast, and the author of the New York Times bestseller revenge how donald trump weaponized the u. S. Department of justice against his critics. Great to have you tonight. Good to be with. You heard the former Attorney General say that he believes that donald trump knew that he lost the election, and what do you think about that being a defense, that his attorneys are going to say . He believes there are Election Fraud dont nobody could show evidence of it. Donald will now reach to any defense he thinks will exonerate him from the charges that are being brought against him. He will ally in order to accomplish that. I have a whole issue with bill barr, to be honest with you. Bill barr is a man who was Donald Trumps fixer after me. He became the Attorney General of the United States as far as weaponizing the department of justice, he was the department. He was the head of the department of justice. He was it would be no different than Sam Maple Grove ono for john gaudy. Before he has the ability to come on this station or any station, and talk about what donald trump did, what he needs to do is to come clean himself, talk about and say what . It weaponization of the Justice Department that donald told him to do, including like what my book is about, how they, meaning bill barr, donald trump, et cetera, weaponize the Justice Department to go against a critic. All because i refused to await my First Amendment constitutional right. Its interesting you say that. He did talk about donald trump weaponizing the doj tonight with Kaitlan Collins, and what bill barr said was, i think there is no question he believes these institutions should be used to go after his enemies. Which is thats the whole premise of my book. However, who did he use in order to effectuate the goal . Bill barr. Again, before bill barr gets a chance to sit there, trying to welcome himself back to polite society, he needs to own what he did. He needs to be held accountable for his actions, the same way i did, for example, when i testified before the House Oversight committee and the other six i could understand why have such strong feelings about him. He settling adjusting to Kaitlan Collins tonight, which is about the amount of carnage. Thats his word. He thinks donald trump believes in his wake. Let me play this for you. He leaves, and his way, ruined lives like this, the people who went up to capitol hill, these individuals, many of the people who served him and government that got sucked into those things, and he leaves all this carnage in his wake. Do you think he cares about that . He doesnt care about that. Loyalty is a oneway street for him. I feel you have something to say about that phenomenon. I agree with everything he said except for the fact that he was part of the group that was leaving the carnage in the street. He was part of the people who are weaponizing the department of justice. He is not an innocent baby in this case. He is, in fact, the guilty party. Again, he needs to come clean. As we i mean, in the detriment, it says there are six unindicted coconspirators, and we have a graphic of who we know, where we have reported on, who we eve they are, and theres a sixth who we have not yet confirmed that it. As you know those folks, rudy uliani, what do you think is in store for the six unindicted coconspirators . A lot of trouble. What will ultimately happen is government will come to these unindicted coconspirators and give them an opportunity to tell the truth, to tell their side of the story. Each and every one of them knows based upon the allegations, the causes of action that were raised in the indictment, each and every one of them knows that this is me they are talking about. Right now, there are in the Honeymoon Stage, where, all right, there is an investigation, theyre looking into me. So far, there is nothing happening maybe they think they wont be indicted, maybe theyre thinking we have gotten away with something. That is a foolish way to think. The government, especially jacks mitt, is not allowing anybody to escape. Each and every one of them knows that this is me they are talking about, and i think its necessary for me to have my attorneys reach out to jack smith, and his team, to ensure that at least i have an opportunity to provide information, if they havent already. Im a Firm BelieverRudy Giuliani has already spoken. What makes you think that . I understand rudy. Rudy has no interest in spending his remaining days on this planet behind bars for donald trump. In fact, i think the more important thing in this indictment to look at, are not to the six coconspirators are, but rather who is missing from this indictment. For example, you dont see any mention of mark meadows. You see nothing of jared kushner. Jared kushner was the secretary of everything. How is it possible that he is not listed here . He was there, on donald slap, the entire time, from the day donald entered the white house to the day that he left. How do you explain it . I believe he is probably a cooperating witness. Jared kushner, thats interesting because people pointed out mark meadows is conspicuously absent, okay, from the indictment. Jared kushner is his soninlaw. You think his son in law would cooperate against donald trump . In a heartbeat. Needing jared is any different than donald . Do you think donald wouldnt throw jared under the bus in order to save himself . The answer is an impact to guess. You think the same is true of mark meadows . Absolutely. Whats the one thing bill barr said i totally agree with . Donald doesnt care about anyone or anything other than himself. He is a oneway street. If that means jared has to go down to mark meadows, or rudy, where eastman, or any of them, he doesnt care. That is who he is. Speaking of eastman, his Attorney Says that john eastman will not turn on donald trump. Here is what he said earlier tonight. Dr. Eastman is happy to find his side of the story, to talk about the issues he thinks are important to the constitution and the country, and under the right circumstances, he would share those views and share those recollections of everything that happened 2020 with the special counsel. With by cooperation you mean flipping on donald trump, or providing incriminating information, then absolutely not. Its interesting. He will share his recollections of everything that happened but wont provide incriminating information. What do you think happened with that . The lawyers talking gibberish, let me be very clear. You dont even really need john eastman to come out and tell the story. Jack smith already has the story. He has the text messages, emails, and he has testimony from other witnesses that place john eastman into the middle of this scenario. If either he is going to turn around and tonight, which would be 1000 to one violation for lying to Law Enforcement, where he is going to turn around and cooperate what the other testimony, or witnesses have made. Whatever this guy says, it is a relevant. They are all, right now, again, in the Honeymoon Stage where they are not feeling the full force of what jack smith is going to bring on to them. Look, ive been there. Im told the Southern District of new york 48 hours to plead guilty, or theyre filing 80page indictment thats going to include my wife. That is on my case. Imagine what jack smith and the doj is going to do knowing that they have the information, knowing they have the testimony, we have the documentary evidence, and so on, in order to bring all of these people to justice. Quickly, Donald Trumps, one of his defenses seems to be, i was listening to the advice of my counsel. They are the people telling me to pursue all of these fraudulent election claims. What do you think of that defense . It is exactly why rudy, eastman, clark, sydney powell, all of them need to come clean, and all of them need to provide testimony. Donald is already telling them what he is going to do. He is going to use them as a scapegoat, like he did with me, going to use them in order to exonerate himself, and there are going to be, like me, the ones holding the bag for donald. Michael cohen, great to get your perspective as always. Thank you for coming in tonight. Always good to see you. Kaitlan collins just interviewed former Attorney General bill barr this evening, as you heard. He had a lot to say about trump s legal trouble. To me, it is amazing that you read through the indictment, and his behavior in that indictment, and it is nauseating, it is despicable behavior, whether criminal or not, someone who engaged in that kind of bullying about a process that is fundamental to our system, and our self government, shouldnt be anywhere near the oval office, and for him to be attacking a prosecutor who is investigating that, with all the epithets and so forth, what she has no basis for, as far as i can tell, you know is ridiculous. Now, he is an aggressive prosecutor. He is the kind of prosecutor, in my view, that if you think someone has committed a crime, he, you know, hones in on it and really goes to try and make that case. Theres no question, he is aggressive. I do not think that he is a partisan actor. Here to discuss all of this, we have jessica washington, Senior Reporter for the route, cnn senior political analyst, john avlon, former u. S. And harry litman. Great to have all of you here tonight. Jessica, bill barr, it was fascinating to hear everything he said to. Kaitlan did an incredible interview tonight. As we all know, remember, bill barr is a big believer in president ial power. He thinks donald trump should be nowhere near the oval office again, he said tonight. Your thoughts as you listen to some of what he said . The fact bill barr was his biggest defender, on of his biggest defenders, and now he is saying, look, i dont think, like you said, should be anywhere near the presidency. We should listen to that. I know there have been other reports, i believe nbc spoke to, i think, dozens of folks within trumps cabinet who said we do not think it was anonymous, to be fair. We do not think this man should be president. I think that matters, i think the American Public should probably pay a little bit of attention to that. You think . This is part of a pattern, not only didnt strike me as former Attorney General as such a strong advocate as you say, a unitarian executive, pro donald trump saying this man should be nowhere near the oval office, because he will weaponize against his enemies, and you add that to the former cabinet members and Administration Officials who are warning his supporters, and the American People about the danger of a second donald trump term, and his hardcore supporters believe they know this man better than the people who worked with him daytoday who were warning that is an unprecedented situation. The people who know you best are warning about you the most. Listen to them. Joe, what jumped out at you at this indictment, this 45page indictment . There is behavior that i think was outlined in the investigations on capitol hill. For me, i dont think there is anything particularly shocking or new, rather, certainly some things that are shocking, but if you look and a broader context of the conversation, i think many people have pointed out there is no explicit quid pro quo. I think if you look at the charges brought relative to the actual actions taken by the president , its very difficult, a high burden to prove that the president was knowingly making those statements. I think there are many people who are better equipped than i am, many attorneys who have command made those same statements, many who worked at the department of justice and made those same we cant be picking and choosing. It is a difficult road to hold, but everyone could agree the president conducted himself in ways that are not necessarily becoming of the oval office. Harry, before have you respond to that. I want to play what donald trump antibodies attorneys appeared to be trying out. Okay. So here is a mashup of those. You had one of the leading constitutional scholars in the United States, john eastman, say to President Trump, this is a protocol that you couldnt follow. Its legal, that eliminates criminal intent. Our focus is on the fact that this is an attack on free speech, and political advocacy. And, there is nothing that is more protected under the First Amendment than political speech. They didnt want to go to trial so that instead of debating the issues against joe biden the President Trump is sitting in a courtroom. How is that justice . Okay. So, from what i got from that, he listened to his lawyers. This is a free speech issue. Hes a lot to say whatever he wants. And its to distract from whatever the biden familys problems. Our which one of those will fly . Speed around. The last one wont even come up in the courtroom. The free speech is just gibberish. Look, these he is charged with making agreement to do things that are unlawful. It uses words to do that. It doesnt make it a free speech issue. Hes not in the political frame. Hes trying to, in fact, up and the political process. And lawyers, there are six reasons it wont fly. But the first one is, their coconspirators. You cannot get relied on advice from someone whos conspiring with you to pick the law. Well, wait a minute, they are his attorneys. Before they were his coconspirators, they weres attorney. Why cant he rely on the advice from his attorneys . Well first, because, the advice is giving in furtherance of a crime, thats just black letter law. But even if it were, to do it, you would need to have they would need to come forward and say, yes, i told him it was okay to false electives. Yes, i told him its okay to obstruct. Not telling him that he could do his free speech. Its the actual charge that they have to be able to do. Quickly, john, go. Were playing pretty fast, and lose, i just listen to the disbarred attorneys, saying one of only two men who have been Attorney General more than once its effectively a hit man for the president. But also, at the same, time saying we should agree with them. Well, hes referring to Michael Cohen. Because, Michael Cohen, his point is that he feels that Bill Barr Weaponized the justice war against him. So he has that will certainly, he has his own animus. But i certainly, think at one point, we just have to follow the facts, wherever they lead. But i think that if we keep going back and forth. Okay, so lets do that, joe. You said earlier, that there is all this conflicting evidence, and we cannot possibly. No but other than the indictment, im sure youve read the indictment, it lays out a pattern that would suggest that donald trump was repeatedly confronted with the facts that he had lost the election by his close to state. He was told again and again that the conspiracies he was putting were not true. And then we go on ahead and spelled them. And so, that is a fact pattern, clearly, theyre going to rely upon. But you need to take that into account when youre coming up with the, its impossible for us to know. Because they laid out a pretty clear fact pattern that suggested he knew. I never said it was impossible for us to. No i said, there are suddenly, many attorneys have gone through many prestigious institutions, who have been appointed by both republicans and democrats who have said, unequivocally, this is a very difficult case to prove. I dont see how somehow, you want to put words in my mouth and say that i somehow okay, can i make one quick point. Quickly. It doesnt matter if he thinks this, whether or not he believes, it fairly, you cannot go and do false election. So you cannot do an obstruction of proceeding. Just one thing that was interesting to hear, mike pence, former Vice President , mike pence, today spoke out, he has been remarkably consistent since january six. And, he has always said that the constitution did not allow him to do what he was being asked of. Even after all of the pressure that has been put on him. So, here he is today. At the end of the day. History will hold donald trump accountable for his reckless words and actions on that day. The American People deserve to know that President Trump and his advisers didnt just ask me to pause, they asked me to reject votes, return votes, essentially to overturn the election. I feel like thats Even Stronger than something ceased and in the past. He was asked to overturn an election. I agree, and i think that it is so hard to argue that this behavior wasnt, at least, potentially illegal. I mean the fact that its very not much legal. And, its so hard not to come out as political in these things. Were looking at repeatedly, trump was told, this does not happen. Over, and over, and over again in that indictment. And, then mike pence is saying, i was told to do something that was unconstitutional that donald trump had the knowledge to know that it was unconstitutional. And we could see that maybe, a few people, who are listed as coconspirators in this indictment said that it was an unconstitutional. But he was told repeatedly, over and over again. And he had every we have every reason to believe that he shouldve understood. That right, and were not living on a should have, could have kind of were out of time but i just want to say that we understand what youre struggling. With because it hasnt been adjudicated that with assault on our own eyes. So, were all trying to do this verbal gymnastics that it hasnt been proven. Yet it hasnt been connected. But we did see a lot with our eyes. And the first person witness would come to break the studies telling, them to overturn the election. And hell tell the jury got to. I think most republicans have come out and said that not only was it trying to have as state of electors disastrous, but if it actually proceeded, we wouldve had chaos and bedlam. Will i dont hear congress saying that. I think theyre pondering the republican saying that. I look forward to the measurement. I dont know how you figure. Which republicans in congress are saying that . I think there are plenty of republicans. If we actually had a separate slate of electors, we had gone in there. I, think even if we go about Supreme Court had, said what is the legal remedy for this, even if what was alleged actually did occur, they did not come to a conclusion. I think there are plenty of republicans who have agreed the same thing. Friends, thank you very much. 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Talk to your doctor and visit cutshortrsv. Com. Donald trumps Attorney General just sat down with our Kaitlan Collins to talk about this latest indictment. Bill barr said donald trump does not belong anywhere near the oval office again. Joining me now is awardwinning journalist, lawyer and former fox host Geraldo Rivera to. Good to see you. Hi alison. So, as i mentioned you are a lawyer and im sure you read this 45page indictment, so what jumps out at you . Well, i believe everything that jack smith alleges is a true. I believe that as he alleges, President Trump incited a riot, unleashed it would be a tenth of derailing with the electoral process. He stabbed the constitution in the back. I think its very obvious. I also think that he, if not hatched the bizarre alternate elector scheme, he certainly embraced it. So i think that he is facing the abyss. I think its tragic, i think many people from my former audience at Fox Feel Aggrieved by it. They feel that it unfair, three quarters of republicans in this country believe that this is bogus and this is the weaponization of the Justice Department and so forth. And that it is not its just in the front of democracy. I think they got it backwards. But you cant doubt the intensity and the ferocity of their loyalty for donald trump. You know, i do want to ask you about that geraldo. Because its very interesting, that sort of mirror image that youre describing about the weaponization of the doj. Because, as you say, many fox host beat that drum all the time as though jacks mitt is somehow doing something at the behest of President Biden. When in fact, he is completely independent. And theres no evidence of. That however, tonight, bill barr, the former Attorney General did talk about former President Trump weaponizing the doj and that he would do it again. And so here is what bill barr said tonight. I think its so ironic, all these people getting huffy about weaponization, which they should because we cant go ted for ted but trump, as you say, hes very clear about it and i think there is no question that he believes these institutions should be used to go after his enemies. What about that geraldo . Why we dont foxholes and other viewers worry about that . Well, i think that first, of all bill barr is, i believe, the most honorable man to come out of the administration and he has been absolutely right, he came into the Trump Administration to save the president from himself and from people who wanted him impeached the day before he even took office. I really believe that bill barr saved the 45th president. What he is saying about the weaponization and so forth, i could not help but note that when you were interviewing Michael Cohen, that Michael Cohen was saying all of these have [inaudible] things about him, that he was in on the various schemes and so forth. And, so Michael Cohen cant hold a candle to bill barr in terms of who is honorable and who is a lawabiding yes, but my point geraldo, Michael Cohen feels as if he was victimized by bill. Barr i get, it thats his personal feeling. But my point, is Bill Barr Hissing that donald trump has talked about and will, to quote, him go after his political enemies. Thats what im talking about. Thats weaponizing the doj. But i think that, first of, all i do not believe that the doj is weaponized. I do not buy the Big Deep State conspiracy notions at all. I think the doj is relatively straightforward. However, there were options in going after trump for these allegations. I argue that impeachment was enough. He was acquitted by the senate to, now, go for indictments for the first time in 247 years i think that is perhaps excessive. I want to ask you about that. Let me ask you about that geraldo. Because they are two separate things. Obviously, a senate trial is the political arena. And, a criminal indictment is the criminal arena. It is our judicial arena. And so, how can you are using is redundant . I mean, for instance, the senate trial, an impeachment, doesnt carry any possible jail term. Theyre sort of no teeth to get that. Its Weather Gonna Fire the president. This is totally different. I appreciate that. But, impeachment is what i thought that the constitution made very clear that impeachment was the instrument by wood to remedy morale seasons in office. Of, Course Indictment is always possible. Its illegal. Thats whats happening right now. But this is the first time a president has ever been indicted. I mean theres a reason why for 247 years it has never happened. Even though president have been all over the map. Why didnt they indict richard nixon, for instance. Maybe that is why my idea donald trump should be pardoned has legs. Maybe we need to take a deep breath and say, do we really want to see the president , the former president of the United States, the men have the country believes is the right man for the job. Do we really want him to be reelected in jail . What happens to the country Going Forward . What happens now . If all of these indictments go forward and i, as i said, at the very top of this presentation that i believe that everything that the Special Prosecutor has alleged is true. Are we going to not watch trump be on trial and in a primary and then on trial in a debate in a primary on trial in a primary . Yes, but, were talking about two different tears of justice. If, not arent we talking about i, mean if you believe everything in the indictment is true then you are saying that somebody is above the law. Well, you, know maybe i. Am but, i think that theyve got it backwards. I think the six unindicted coconspirators i would argue and i believe that these six unindicted coconspirators are the architects of the schemes. I believe that and i love Rudy Giuliani, after 9 11, everyone did. But he led these quack pods in the words of Vice President pence. Vice president pence parenthetically, i believe, is an American Hero that demonstrated throughout this process, this sorted process yes. That he does put the constitution ahead of his political party. I know that he is reviled because of that. But i think that he has done a Great Service to the country. Well i mean hes reviled by the Extreme Trump supporters. And maybe some foxborough. Speaking of fox, one less thing geraldo, there is reporting that to Fox Executives On The Night that trump was indicted met with him at his Bedminster Golf Club to try and convince him to be part of the upcoming president ial debate. This month, that theyll be holding in milwaukee. It is just interesting to see well, let me ask you this. Do you think that they are still very dedicated and devoted to donald trump . Well, that is a separate question. I think, first of, all when jay wallace is in charge of newsgatherings, the Chief Executive of the news division, when they need donald trump it is because, what is a debate when you dont have the person who is attracting 75 of the vote. What is a debate . What is this debate. A bunch of little guys and nikki haley running around looking to go from 1 to 2 to 3 . I mean, come on. It is no debate without donald trump. When he missed iowa, i covered the 2016 when he missed iowa, everyone and the whole angle of all the reports were, where is donald. Trump if only donald trump was. There it wouldve been different. And, now, when he is bigger than ever, larger than light, and former president the think of having a debate and all of the circumstances and also just quickly i want to say that for trump, this is when your day. Trump wins the election, he can pardon himself, he can put all this behind him. Trump loses the election, then we go through all of these bizarre scenarios where hes in jail, he is in orange jumpsuits, handcuffs, and my fellow americans, and the state of our nation. I mean, come on. Is this really what do we do if he wins . He will pardon himself. I believe. Great point. Geraldo, thank you. Always great to get your perspective. Great, alison, thank you. All right, toxin. How many lies about the election did donald trump actually tell . According to prosecutors, a lot. Daniel dale is here with our factchecked, next. Were reinventing our network. With smarter, more efficient routes. So you can deliver more value to youcustomers. Fast. Reliable. Perfectly orchestrated. The uned states postal service. Hi, im sharon, and i lost 52 pounds on golo. I realized i needed to make a change when i looked in the mirror and did not recognize myself. 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Okay, so, daniel you have pumped up the loss that prosecutors say that i counted 21 listed in that 45page indictment, and i think if you counted slightly different, with subjectivity, you could go as low as 18 or as high as maybe 25. I made a list of 21. Okay, take us through them. Okay, here we go, Line Number One is trumps overarching election like that he is the real winner of an election that change the outcome. The indictment has numerous trump officials, trump himself appointed had told him this narrative was baseless, groundless, false. But he kept deploying it anyway. Line number two is the lie that big pro trump electors won by were reelectors obviously were. Not lies number three and four i thought were to remarkable lives really did to trumps pressure on the administration. Trump also tried to get doj to give a government stamp of approval to a slice by sending official letters to key states saying that they had identified concerns with the election bill. Of course im not. Trump urged top doj officials to just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressman. Line under five is that he had the part to object biden electoral votes on january six 2021. Pence and white house had repeatedly told front that this would be illegal, unconstitutional, but he kept declaring that he did have the power. A number six another lie about pence. He had his Campaign Issue a january 5th statement saying that pence agreed that the vp had apart to act. Even though pence told trump, just hours prior, that he still actually, totally, disagree. And then trump allegedly told pence had a january 4th Pressure Meeting that they had the state being questioned by Hundreds And Thousands of votes. Again, obviously false. And number eight and nine are Conspiracy Theories about dominion Voting Machines that made the lies to squish votes from trump to biden. Trump impeded his claim, even though his a. G. , william, barr and others have explained to him it was wrong. Number nine, trump retweeted lawyer, sitting false lies about a massive Election Fraud involvement even though the indictment said he privately said that he was crazy. And ice number 10 through 13 are about georgia. One of the swing states he, loss number 10 was trump side that he had Tens Of Thousands of ballots from ten people. The republicans of state had told trump directly, that they had found two dead voter cases later to number four. Number 11 is trumps lies had Tens Of Thousands who lived out of state. They explain to trump directly, on the, call that these were actually legitimate voters. It was trump side that to fulton and counties have been caught on video, stuffing a ballot box, and raffensperger doj officials said that this was called the workers were just doing their. Job and trump would not. Stop but he actually continued to repeat that, like this, year in 2023 and still going. Number 13 is trumps tweeted that he said he was quote unwilling to address his various claims on that wild infamous call and in fact raffensperger he said that those claims were in remarks to the date after they claim to him that what had been happening was just a normal standard vote counting. Lies number, 15, 16 is that pennsylvania and wisconsin, eight more states have more votes than actual voters. Doj officials told trump that this clearly untrue claim was indeed untrue. But he still use the pennsylvania park, it is pretty right, january six. Speech line number 17 is trumps lie in that same speech that pennsylvania wanted to recertify his election result showing the biden victory. Some republicans in the state, did but the democratic governor said that the people who actually had the Certification Power did not. And lies number 18 through 21 finally are assorted false claims about various states. 18 at nevada, had Tens Of Thousands of double vote, and nonresidents have voted in arizona. Wrong again. 20 to 26 non citizens voted in arizona, Trumps Campaign and finally, 21 that wisconsin had major fraud and Tens Of Thousands of unlawful votes and once again all baseless. Daniel. The crowd goes well. Well, i really hope that this group is just watching that because i dont believe you took a breath for all of that. I try my breath best. So is that everything . In all seriousness that is not all of the Election Line that trump did, in my own factchecking, i counted thousands of additional lies about the election that the indictment did not mention. Of course, the indictments dont mention everything, maybe some of the others will come up at a potential trial. Daniel, you are remarkable. Youre remarkable, that was i cant believe you fit that into one long, shot one breath. As far as i can tell. 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But, donald trump is still a threat, it is scary could mean that three times and be a, throughout but there is no doubt we have a massive political divide, and that donald trump has a following that if anything seems emboldened by this indictment. So doesnt seem to be heading a wall that maybe a typical joe biden whos been in politics for ever might expect. Such a great, point because i think that, i think that obama was trying to say not only is donald trump a, threat is a big threat. Maybe democrats dont know that . Now they should figure that out by now. It is the exact same logic happened in 2016. Trump would be the easiest to beat. New york times cnn poll coming out just a few days ago, showing a dead heat. Now if you look at his republican support, they say they will support him to matter what. Literally no matter what. 25 of republicans say they will not support him no matter what, that is actually a bad number for donald trump. Saying to, biden and democrats generally, do not do not assume this is an easy win. We are careful what you wish, for compete, that is smart. This love diminishing returns, and the court of public opinion, you have had so much of a focus on President Trump, and the coverage of it, if you look from that perspective, the closer and closer turn election cycle, the exact opposite is true. The economy is actually doing incredibly, what a strikingly is not getting credit. Just because you say no, no, no, no today, we just had the actual ratings for america ratings aside, which by the way no. No. For the side we have half 1 million put aside the fact no. No. We have record low unemployment. We have inflation decrease. Do not just you can credibly say biden is not getting credit for the, economy but it is not an issue that economy as i do think he is getting credit for the, economy should not be getting credit, for particularly when you look at the amount of money we printed. You should have an economy that right now gdp growth. I dont want to get into this whole thing, but this becomes, this does not see the problem that we have a country that is effectively seeing and he will do to completely know, im trying to say lets have a debate about common facts. Why have i said that you said the biden economy i said we have half Million People who are and that is gentlemen you can have a perspective on the, facts that does not mean it makes the facts themselves harry, last thoughts. It doesnt make perfect sense. Im ignoring former prosecutor, there are two boxes out, theyre all i can say is that we have to focus on, this and it is paramount for the country. I dont know if this is a 20 box, and 80 box, it is a disaster box. It is very possibly the end of democracy, im all about this box. You mean in terms of this adjudication coming up. No, even the campaign. No, everything goes by the courts, if trump wins, it is a disaster, im focused here on the rule of law. 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Marshals, capitol police, and how the federal protective service. Sources tell cnn, Law Enforcement has been looking very closely at potential Online Platforms where threats could come from. So far, sources tell cnn, there is active threat to the courthouse where trump is going to be arraigned. But, because of the january 6th experience, just a few blocks from dark warehouse, Law Enforcement agencies will be watching will protrump an anti trump protesters, and if they show, up they will work to keep the two groups separated. A former secret Service Agent we interviewed who ran security for that courthouse, so this it is likely when trump does arrive, he will be taken into an entrance that is not visible or accessible to the public. Allison . Okay, ryan, thank you so much for all of that. Thank you for watching cnn tonight. Our coverage continues now