And into a containment van and ultimately taken care of. But were left with a lot of questions as we close the show this morning. That does it for us for now. Stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. We begin with that very breaking news. Two more packages found this morning. One addressed to senator cory booker and another to former director of National Intelligence James Clapper. Nbcs Investigative Reporter tom winters joins me now via phone. Tom were up to 12 potentially suspicious packages. Walk us through this. Shortly after 8 00 a. M. This morning, we first got word the package that was addressed to cory booker but was found at a Mail Facility in south florida, at that time, we understood it, the package was addressed to booker in camden, new jersey. The package obviously does not appear to have ever made its way there. They were able to get
subsequently, about the same time, a Mail Sorting Facility in New York City. Thats certainly kind of the we were edge of midtown ma
meant to activate. a bomber activates that when he s carrying the devices. lumbering these dozen devices in his car, to the post office. so he doesn t want to blow up. if he had an alarm clock with a delay on it, none of this is live. when he mails it two hours into the mail, they become live. so eelhe s not in danger. or it could be the actual mechanism. they sell these things which are digital alarm clocks that work on voice. you have to have a learn level of decibels to make the light digital part function. you d have to get in there and rewire all that stuff. we don t know. we don t know what he s done. others can work by light. you have a lot inside your house. when the light hits it, it goes on or off. it may be they tried. the bomber tried and couldn t
quite make the circuits reliable. it may be that none of these bombs are open. these is a salient point in this case. none of these bombs, not one bomb was open via victim, via citizen, via target. is it patriots, and think we need to say this, 12 american patriots, who have served the country who have been successful in their businesses have received these bombs. every single one of these people. business like mr. de niro, successful, highly successful actor. mr. sorros, a business man. then political leaders who have served. intelligence leaders, mr. brennan, mr. clapper. 12 patriots have been attacked by a bomber. we don t quite know every little thing. the fbi lab and the atf cameras and the experts and postal inspectors still ferret this out. the danger is the bomber progression. that s the danger going forward. is he going to adapt, change the
and it s not just in new york city. and if there s, again, from all of us, in any form of leadership, need to step up our game and put aside the kind of back and forth and say this is not who we are as a country, support our law enforcement, support our intelligence community officials, and that will be a heck of a lot stronger if that message also came from this white house. barbara, how does one take this as seriously as serious as possible without celeb ra tizing this bomber, without inspiring others to become copy cats? if the goal was to sow fear and chaos, it s working. there s a lot of attention to be paid to it. you want to alert the public of this threat. i think the best way to achieve is it by working quickly to
identify who this bomber is. quick action is required here. i think in a case like this, there are many more clues. there is a lot of evidence left behind in an undetonated bomb. i m hopeful that the investigators from atf, fbi, and don t forget the postal inspectors who play a very important role in this on every piece of mail, there s an electronic signature that is affixed that can tell the entire routing of that piece of mail. you will see all kinds of numbers and bar codes that can identify the chain of that package. and so through that work, they can identify where the packages were mails. look at surveillance cameras from there and perhaps get clues. even the powder itself can be unique and they can trace that back to where the powder was sold and manufactured. all those component parts like