fraudulently cast in the names of dead people. that was one of the many false claims trump said over and over about the 2020 election. and just a reminder, for facts sake, there was no capital and, capital o, evidence of widespread voter fraud of any kind in the 2020 election. was that, let s get smarter with the help of our leadoff panel on this monday night. sam stein is here, a veteran journalist and white house editor for politico. greg bluestein, a political reporter for the atlanta journal-constitution. and msnbc political contributor and former federal prosecutor. glenn kirschner, glenn, you are my law man. let s get this thing started with. you do you expect to see action in smiths election interference case this week. i would think so, stephanie because of once we saw jack smith deliver a target letter to donald trump, that is one of the last steps prosecutors will take before walking into the grand jury and asking them to vote on proposed charges in an
final chief of staff mark meadows. this reportedly took part in that infamous phone call to georgia s top election officials in which the former president asked that official to, quote, find some 11,000 votes. the washington post reporting, federal prosecutors have been focusing on a text message meadows sent in which he mocks the baseless claim, that the large number of votes or fraudulently cast in the names of dead people. that was one of the many false claims trump said over and over about the 2020 election. and just a reminder, for facts sake, there was no capital and, capital o, evidence of widespread voter fraud of any kind in the 2020 election. was that, let s get smarter with the help of our leadoff panel on this monday night. sam stein is here, a veteran journalist and white house editor for politico. greg bluestein, a political reporter for the atlanta journal-constitution. and msnbc political contributor
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be obstruction, capital o or small o. it seems to me you have to prove authorship of the statement we foe to be wrong. and you d have to prove intent, that it was meant as a smoke screen to throw people off the trail, correct? well, as part of a pattern of obstruction of justice, that s what would have to be proven. and there is a pattern. we go back to the firing of james comey and other reasons of course being offered for the firing of james comey. and then very quickly there after the president said to the russian ambassador right there in the oval office that he fired him in connection with the russia investigation. we have repeated instances of obstruction of justice. i have to say this looks more and more like a cover-up. but it s one of the most psychologically did he ranged and inconsistent cover jupts in
do them erratically without consulting people. but also just the fact that he has certain people around him that are not sort of pulling him off the ledge and saying you can t do this, this is going to further implicate yous in a problem for you. to do so in a convincing manner. that s really what s been so problematic in this white house. general kelly is somebody who many believe does have influence on the president. he respects the generals believes in them and he really takes advice to heart. to see if he can get the president to tone down some of his involvement in this, that s going be thing interesting thing moving forward. richard with the proviso innocent until proven guilty what this is as of now it s a washington post story. for in to be a crime for this to be obstruction, capital o or small o. it seems to me you have to prove authorship of the statement we foe to be wrong. and you d have to prove intent, that it was meant as a smoke