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Conversation is accurate. My background in this is, there are two influences, i suppose. So i grew up in rural gun culture which was black gun culture. So everyone that i knew, all of the, you know, the good people of the community, my grandfather and father were both ministers, both owned guns and so did everybody else in the community really unapologetically. And when i got to law school, i found that there was a quite different impression about something that i took as being sort of one of the clear, fundamental rights and importance of practical resources even before i could articulate something about fundamental rights. So there was this tension that operated in the way that i was sort of dealing with what i knew in my bones versus what i heard in law school and then the kind of cultural response to firearms issues that i got in lots of the venues that i was operating in after law school. So certainly at harvard the sense in the early 80s when i was there was, oh, well, that
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