every day in a criminal court room somebody will tap me on this note shoulder do you know, who my lawyer is? they have no idea they have not met them. kid you imagine god forbid it did not even knowing who your lawyer was? that is the language of lawyers say and people just have no idea how to navigate and don t even know who their lawyer is. said general and fairness is the manufacturer of crime of lot of police departments to undercover stings of buy or bust operation for drugs or for prostitution to use illicit a and other undercover things like robberies or a police officer with the iphone and i think that adds a level of randomness to cases to devote resources we don t need. host: to close out on a positive note. for both of you what to advice would you give to young lawyers speaking of law students going into this field or want to? you don t want to give all the bad stuff. what would you? we are happy defenders. i guess all of these things that suppress thi