Transcripts For CSPAN2 What Jefferson Read Ike Watched 20131

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Every day in a criminal court room somebody will tap me on this note shoulder do you know, who my lawyer is . They have no idea they have not met them. Kid you imagine god forbid it did not even knowing who your lawyer was . That is the language of lawyers say and people just have no idea how to navigate and dont even know who their lawyer is. Said general and fairness is the manufacturer of crime of lot of Police Departments to undercover stings of buy or bust operation for drugs or for prostitution to use illicit a and other undercover things like robberies or a Police Officer with the iphone and i think that adds a level of randomness to cases to devote resources we dont need. Host to close out on a positive note. For both of you what to advice would you give to Young Lawyers speaking of law students going into this field or want to . You dont want to give all the bad stuff. What would you . We are happy defenders. I guess all of these things that suppress this that one dash sad statistics gives them something to fight for. There is no job more exciting never a dull moment or eightpoint and cash because he knows he is going down. Truly lifelong devoted criminal defense lawyers there is some the right about why they have the chops for the work in to talk why he does this forever but the reality is it is not for everyone but if you have id you the makings you would not have a more meaningful career. The everybody should get how you could represent those people. Thank you. Good afternoon i am othello here and i will be moderating this afternoon in which we will be recognizing and celebrating on tevi troy new book what jefferson read, ike watched, and obma tweeted 200 years of Popular Culture in the white house. With a title like that you may suspect it is fine a and entertaining stories about president s idiosyncratic taste of reading, a theater, music, sports, movi es, tv or maybe it is more earthy and that a study of decline from adams did jefferson reading cicero in latin and the current best seller from the u. K. The wealth of nations. To president obama tweet being about his favorite dessert or newest pop song. If there is both of those things in this wonderful book but it is a very serious work. President s since Andrew Jackson have been Popular Figures their popularity has been the most important source of their political power steve politician offical any time in america and their relationship to Popular Culture has been deep in has changed in fundamental ways and that is tevi troy subject. A fellow at the Hudson Institute is familiar with president s and the white house during the of ministration during george w. Bush was assistant secretary of labor at the labor leaders on for the president with the senior delegation to security and cooperation to the Reelection Campaign of 2004 then through 2008 he was deputy secretary of health and human services. Philosophers, adjusters or technicians. He is a prolific author to be a intellectual with reason National Review the Weekly Standard the city journal and washingtonian magazine. Where he writes about the presidency as you might expect of politics and policy issues of Public Health reflecting his involvement when he was at hhs. We will begin with tevi troy telling us about his book and what he thinks the most important themes of the book are to expect everyone to go out to buy the book afterwards then we will hear from a group of panelists those who do read cicero. Day blanc, podcast or probably do things that we have not learned about yet. We will start with joan the goal kirk who is editoratlarge a fellow at the American Enterprise institute in regular contributor to fox news. Jonah has been around the world of popular media to elevate and educate as founding producer of the think tank and written to your times bestsellers including the one that went all the way to the top of the chart liberal fascism. Following joe know we will hear from bill senior fellow chair at the Brookings Institution in he taught for many years at university of texas at the university of maryland also has spent time in the white house as Deputy Assistant for domestic policy and work on the president ial campaign of both Walter Mondale and al gore with political policy institutions the most recent Public Matters in the 21st century published 2005 then we will hear from a nationally syndicated columnist, a journalist and political analyst following the pattern this speech writer for nancy Reagan Administration and a Political Campaign working for jack kemp in 1988. Of her most recent book her book is called dogooders. And jonahs most recent book is how liberals cheat in the war of ideas. I want to make it clear they exempt from all versions just to maintain comedy of mound of our panelists but we begin with the author. Host Franklin Foer the presentations then will talk about it to everyone in the room. The podium is yours. [applause] good afternoon. Thank you for that nice introduction into the Hudson Institute for sponsoring this yvette. The book what jefferson read, ike watched, and obma tweeted i mention it because tweet is important you may tweet that at your pleasure it is a tweet happy event we also take questions via twitter. This is how the think tank adapts to the 21st century. Getting to the title i recently had a different title and came up with the title after i saw an interesting incident from a president ial historian that surprised me. Few years ago obama was trying to sell his health care lot and he went to the white house Correspondents Dinner and told the joke about an exemption he was trying to get for the bill and he said we had a canning tax and in order to get this through we will have to put for the exemption for john boehner. The crowd laughed at the time because snookie was enjoying a moment and is now god but at the time she was on jersey shore in which she bestowed the virtues of free number one priorities of life was gtl. Gm than laundry how odd that the president of United States cites this person from the podium. It is also struck the president because he was later asked about snookie on the view and he professed not to know who she was. And it led to a question are we better off with a president who knows who snookie is or a president who does not . It is that tension that animates the book. It led me to come up with my initial draft idea for the idea from cicero to snookie how culture shapes the president. I was talked out of that the yvette diagram those who knows cicero and those you know, snookie does not intersect than they were right to. [laughter] but also three years later cicero is just as relevant where snookie has been forgotten so i went to with the alternative title my book is about the different areas of technology and how they have affected the president so at the time those through the available options someone seeking education or entertainment to the printed word or light entertainment. So it is the period of the founders. Jefferson and adams were probably the two best read people on the planet. You never think of the president being a the best red. But these people are engaged by books with no hard ship to themselves but in 1776 that First Edition the equivalent of 615. With 160,000 books fete was no is significant investment because not only had to spend a lot of money but these books animated the discussion that led to the revolution from england in indeed a revolutionary act with something that had not been done before. The founders found solace in the work of previous people who had gone before them especially cicero and of play that George Washington showed to the troops at valley forge to bump up their routes so they engaged with the woman republicans against Julius Caesar and the onslaught of tyranny. Said they found ideas from previous generations and also look to a current is like to meet to look for rationale so use the the idea is in the declaration of independence fend later in the riding of the constitution and James Madison and another founder and president reached out to jefferson and asked him for advice on what books to read as he was thinking about this constitutional project. And he sent him to platefuls of books about law and philosophy and history of the subjects that jefferson read so much and mastered in madison read those and wrote a memo to himself and he used that to reform his thinking on the Constitutional Convention and the constitution writing it self in the federal list papers to defend it. The founders, and not wrongly, had a vision based on having dealt with a population of the colonys engaged in ideas it was of in my in leaders over the educated populace. Over the next two centuries we would see that would be challenged in two ways. In the 19th century there were two types of the other was Live Entertainment if he wanted to be seen he could not go on radio or tv he went to where the people were at Live Performances so i tell james monroe going around the country on the good will to work to see the theatrical performances. But fitter people on the stage can react to the audience. But television is static. The actors on stage to react to a is in the house that night so i tell a story from 1824 a hotly contested election between John Quincy Adams who was the best prepared president based on his reading increase it previous experience and depth against Andrew Jackson who was not nearly as well read or barely cracked cracked a book. So they have this president ial race he wins a plurality of the popular and electoral but does not win the election because henry clay threw his support to adams and clay is named secretary of state and was known as the corrupt bargain so shortly after adams a theater buff went to the theater in washington they saw the president elect was in the house and the reaction is to add the live references to general jackson then the audience applauded at every mention of general jackson. John quincy adams was so upset he curtailed his theater going after that. The founders vision came up against the rockets and gaudy and allowed theatrical venues it was more open ended and a man like Andrew Jackson who would win the 1828 election had reno this . I tell a story about Andrew Jackson going to harvard to get the honor reid degree this made adams apoplectic fit this unlettered burberry was getting a degree but nevertheless he gets the degree and is expected to speak back in latin which was the vernacular at harvard at the time it jackson says the only thing i know is the purpose and some that he has a common touch but a man of the people you might be educated in a certain way but you need some general jackson to get elected and the person who had the best understanding of countervailing pensions was Abraham Lincoln and he read a great deal to the disgust of his father tried to discourage him. But lincoln read but to borrow a book from a farmer but he did not have the same selection those to read over andover like the bible, shakespeare, a sops fables, like the history of United States than he internalized those committed when he was running for office he did not cite books but internalized those to express their vision in the way he communicated so he learned a certain type of, and the anchorage elevated speech from shakespeare and innate patriotism for the books in the United States and use those successfully in 18601864 but lincoln was a man do love the theater and like to attend so often that john wilkes booths planned to assassinate lincoln on the way to a different performance but them lincoln decided to not go that night and wilkes booth change his mind then eventually did assassinated him up for a peter in wilkes booth used his knowledge of the theater to figure how to navigate his way through the house and even to a laugh line in the play so in some ways lincoln went to the theater he was undone by it and his son was at a different theater at aladdin he heard someone say they have shot the president he would it to the white house but did not find out until the next morning. After the 19th century the second thing develops that challenges their vision coming about its new Technology First the ability to project your voice to many thousands of people beyond those who are in their room those who speak to this audience there is a wider audience and Delano Roosevelt knew about that but even before war in fact, because of radio at the convention he spoke at those conventions recognizing there was an audience in front of him butter brodeur Radio Audience that would hear his message that is how he introduced himself to the nation so radio was a new medium. We also think about roosevelt in the radio that he must have done on the radio all the time but only with fireside chats to three times per year plenitude not to whistle in the paper that did not wrestle so people would speaking off the cuff not to hear the rustle of the paper. One of the themes of the book is the way the president s need to recognize new technologies to take advantage of them. That leads us to the Television Era but the first president was eisenhower. Eisenhower recognized tv was a twoway medium you can watch tv and enjoy it but eisenhower did watch tv. So much including shows like i love lucy that the eschers complained that the white house social schedule was determined by the tv schedule. There was no vcr or netflix you would miss that episode then you were out of luck and ike did not want to miss but he understood how important it was as a communication tool. He was skilled but eisenhower was the first president to give a televised News Conference including the famous speech about the militaryindustrial complex in the first president to higher somebody from the tv industry that was in fact, advised on the tv performance obviously kennedy came to out debated nixon and kennedy recognized how important to his campaign to say we would not have had a prayer so kennedy recognized call important tv was. Even before he had so i said it is a twoway medium but they affected what was on tv and what eyesights in the book is the observation president dont just watch tv but they are tv you i tell the story bill clinton during the Monica Lewinsky scandal. He goes to get out of town with Terry Mcauliffe and Hillary Clinton and on this vacation sitting there trying to watch television hillary has the milk bone dash Remote Control trying to find a channel that does not include the scandal. She cannot find channel getting increasingly frustrated you can imagine. Finally she comes to espn. She was not a fan but she settled for some sports programming for on the same vacation 1. The white house ushers came up to them and said would anybody like wine . Hillary said no. Bill said no. Terry said i will take the bottle. Following this era that theyre very skilled at we have a new era coming into it could be too early but call it the internet era of segmentation every betty saw that that is how you could add peel and even with a successful show like breaking bad a successful episode is seen by a tiny minority it does not get as much does so in this era of segmentation i argue obama has spent to appeal to his audience to find places he can get his message out for those who support him for shows like the view with a twitter account when he tweet something directly with the letter bo at the encino it came from him. In this era obama so successful he deserves credit the cost comes into ways the response is not overwhelming with does pop culture venues may have colored peoples judgments to talk about syria and does that stature diminished when you have these appearances . The first to appear on a late night talkshow obviously with arsenio hall with the laughs in appearance but obama the regularly goes on and talk shows slow to summarize devil mentioned that conclusions what does it mean . We can learn four things the Washington Post has chronicled obama is seen to be reading a book in the 80s was reading about clancy in mentioned the hunt for red october then no longer had to sell insurance now you have the policy sometimes they have seen something the most famous instance is when you have jfk in 1963 was supposed to read this book leading to the war on poverty but he probably did read a book review so in that way that can influence the policy. President s use pop culture to humanize themselves think about clinton to show a different side had different appreciation. The last is the way the president uses pop culture to convey intellectualism a larger than life image fdr was portrayed did more movies than any of their president and until the movie pearl harbor was never shown onscreen in a wheelchair as president. Never shown as president certainly to show an image of this great leader with his physical frailty then by watching tv you could show a certain aspect of appealing to regular people you watch i love lucy and david watching it in the white house just like you did of course, that you are cutting it and cool and the bombing has mastered that in terms of the shows that he watches he likes the sho

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