no, that was up to seven. i think that was seven. it might be my souvlaki talking, but yes. so it s a big debate with all of the parties who are fielding candidates in the election being represented. and as a result of that, what you have is of course, the sort of battle royale going on between labour and the tories, but you have an opportunity to hear from a much broader rainbow of political opinion. yeah, it means on the one hand it s less focused than when it was starmer versus sunak on tuesday, and it sjust two people going head to head on a range of issues. it becomes a bit more sprawling, but equally it feels more like britain because you re hearing about wales and hearing about scotland. sure. and it s a reflection also of the fact that there are lots of different kinds of political races in lots of different kinds of constituencies. there are races that are between the snp and the tories in some parts of more rural scotland they tend to be. there are of course that ar
Good politicians do think about how they look and how they come across. and that might make it shallow. but you know. no, but not nigel farage, his version of a blow dry as a pint like. an optics matter in politics. so, you know, newscasters, i hope nobody s offended for us talking about people s looks. but it is of course, it s important, you know, and the. keir starmer i m going to take my jacket off and do this speech without a jacket and a tie or rishi sunak i m going to do this clip in my little cashmere woollen half zip number over a work shirt, which i have now. can you explain that to me? i don t go for that. look, there s quite a lot of, you know, blokes do go for that and i don t get it. but i, i had i digress. no, but i went into it. i was in the city of london for lunch the other day there. no, not with like a city type.
They were stage left, because it s how they are. it s where they are on the facing. camera, right! yeah, we re in it. we re not theatre people. we re television people. broadcasters! telly people. talking about appearances, though, to very superficial questions for me about penny mordant. yeah. i m not an expert on this. her hair. yeah. how do you get hair that voluminous? just an amazing blow dry. is thatjust a really big blow drying? okay. but it s flippant to talk about women s hair. but it s not going to talk about other people s look. no, because it was it s part of penny mordaunt shtick. yes, it is. and it s a bit thatcherite. well she sjust got big fabulous, big fabulous hair in the way that also angela rayner has you know has incredible hair and they were both, i think they re both, oh they re very conscious as a lot of politicians are. i think that they are both conscious of their kind of look.
How american she was? well, well, yeah. she sounded a bit she sounded like she i mean, it s just these are big events for politicians that they all practise for them. and it s perfectly possible that some of them will also have had some kind of, you know, speech training. i don t necessarily mean specifically for tonight, but they re there, isn t. it s hard, right? it s hard. let s go back to policy. yeah. i talk about as if you were the one talking about superficial stuff and i had to bring it back to the straight and narrow. you raised a blow dry. immigration. so one of the things about when you ve got the the more progressive parties, the more left wing parties like the greens, the snp, plaid cymru, come right and they would unashamedly say they are. yeah, it means that when it comes to immigration, rather than the talk being about numbers being too high or which lever can we pull to get more control, or which category of visa do you crack down on? you actually get some quite passio