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Loss overall to the quarter. The stock is trading higher in the market, up over 1 as you can see there. Heart,me karen it will who covers g4s. Ge for us. So it comes back to power. Margin, 2. 8h a 3 percent, which was totally surprising. Sales were down 15 , really bad. Voters are down 25 , so this will continue. The order of magnitude is worse in terms of profitability. David when you we knew they were struggling with power. Is this worse than what the market expected . , 6 operatingy 5 margin was expected and we got 2. 8 , so not awful, but not going in the right direction. And that is the big ugly, nobody knows how bad it is going to get, and it is the biggest business for ge. So what does this tell us about plans going forward, spinning things off, consolidating . Does this bad performance point in a new direction . Karen i think they have already laid off 18 of the people. They will need to do more on the cost cut side there. Were worried about a goodwill writeoff. I do not think ....