What weve been discussing w today, which involved in a regular channel, was a request that went against u. S. Policy that have have undermined the rule of law and our longstanding policy goals in ukraine, as in other countries in the postsoviet space. Those policies which were indeed championed by ambassador yovanovitch. You also testified on october 15th in the deposition about fundamental reforms necessary for ukraine to fight corruption and to transform the country. And you t cited the importance reforming certain institutions, notably was investigating President Trumps political opponents a part of those necessary reforms . Was it on that list of yours or indeed was it on any list . No, they werent. In fact, historically, is it not true that a major problem in the ukraine has been its misuse
of prosecutors, precisely to conduct investigation of political opponents. Thats a legacy i dare suggest from the soviet era when, as you stated in your testimony, prosecutors like the kgb were
bolton, vice president pence all becamede convinced that zelensk was, in fact, worth the risk. he was, in fact, legit and the real deal and a real change. and guess what? they told the president he s a reformer. release the money.th and that s exactly what president trump did. over the next few weeks, we re going to have more witnesses likeg we ve had today that the democrats will parade in here and they re all going to say this. so ande so said such and such so and so and, therefore, we got to impeach the president. actually, we can get more specific. we covered this a little bit ago. they ll say something like, ambassador sondland said in his deposition where he said ambassador taylor recalls that mr. morrison told ambassador taylor that i told mr. morrison that ito conveyed this message september 1st, 2019, in connection with vice president pence s visit to warsaw and a meeting with president zelensky. if you can follow that,re that the f democrats plan and why th
security assistance and the vice president according to your telling says i ll talk to the president about that tonight. i ll make a call. do you know whether the vice president made that call? i don t know, sir. do you know what, if anything, the vice president had to do with, any of this? what more can you tell us about the vice president s role in this? do you r know if he ever raised this issue with anyone in the administration? whether he ever pushed for the release of that security assistance? i can t sir. i believe i to the best of my- understanding, the vice president was an advocate for the release of the assistance. thankof you. yield back, mr. chairman. mr. chairman. mr. chairman, i have a unanimous consent request. i ask unanimous consent to commit for the record the politico article that will be a entered in th record. thank you. representative demings. thank you so much, mr. chairman, and thank you to both of you for being with us today.