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Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour 20220222 04:31:00

They re going to have to attack on three different fronts. and western, front central front and eight eastern front. but the ukrainians have an army. this army appears ready to fight. it appears that they have the ability to slow this down. the russians want to establish a piecemeal swath of the entire country that goes from the northern city to the eastern city of sue me, down to kharkiv, and connect that with luhansk. and carve a new area south to crimea. and that would be one large phase line. the next phase line has to make them fights differently, going all the way up the river. and whether they can get around kyiv is one thing. but getting that next 100 miles, if they think they are going to be able to do this in the small flights, they are not going to. this country will, if anything, have the baghdad effect. ....

Eastern Ukraine , Central Front , Eastern Front , Sue Me , Phase Line , Baghdad Effect , Country Will ,

Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour 20220222 04:29:00

That something might play to the hand of vladimir putin, but not something that russian oligarchy would really enjoy. that is a potential wedge there. i think that the other part is, i am worried that the biden administration will not push sanctions quite far enough. what you are seeing so far, coming out of the white house, they are going to sanction entities in donetsk and danske, these two regions, but that does really strike that the russians. in some ways, it may even play to their advantage. meaning that there will not be capital and money moving into that region. which leads it to the control of the russians. i think separately, this is a very preplanned and decisive strategy by putin. he is trying to avoid the baghdad effect. kind of what we saw when we invaded iraq in 2003, which is that if you take baghdad right away, you go a full invasion, just like malcolm was talking about, you are than vulnerable to a large-scale insurgency over many years. this is something they would w ....

President Putin , Joe Biden , Potential Wedge , White House , Baghdad Effect , Malcolm Nance ,

Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour 20220222 07:29:00

Does really strike at the russians. in some ways, it may even play to their advantage. meaning that there will not be capital and money moving into that region. which leaves it to the control of the russians. i think separately, this is a very preplanned and decisive strategy by putin. he is trying to avoid the baghdad effect. kind of what we saw when we invaded iraq in 2003, which is that if you take baghdad right away, you go a full invasion, just like malcolm was talking about, you are than vulnerable to a large-scale insurgency over many years. this is something they would want to avoid. another afghanistan from the soviet area. and so they are going to try and planned this. in a way like general mccaffrey was talking about before, take small bites and chunks, trying to work on the french and germans to come to their side. or not do anything, and incrementally take all of ukraine overtime. i think that is really where it is going to get troublesome here in the next couple of weeks. ....

President Putin , Malcolm Nance , Baghdad Effect , General Mccaffrey , Take Small Bites , Eastern Ukraine ,

Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour 20220222 07:31:00

Country that goes from the northern city to the eastern city of , down to kharkiv, and connect that with luhansk. and maybe carve a new area south to crimea. and that would be one large phase line. the next phase line has to make them fight stiffly, going all the way up the river. and whether they can get around kyiv is one thing. but getting that next 100 miles, if they think they are going to be able to do this in the small flights, they are not going to. this country will, if anything, have the baghdad effect. where the army may disappear in certain sectors, while main forces are fighting. and then return planting ieds, using anti tank missile ambushes and degrading the fact that russia has to occupy every crossroads. has to occupy every village. this is where the molotov cocktail could become very ....

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