bill: at some point. all right. you weren t there when zubaydah was being waterboarded that s a being fanchts right. bill: rodriguez said it did lead to valuable intelligence that saved lives i don t think if i was you i would call him a liar if you wasn t there. i was there. what they were giving us as examples they got. they said they got ksm. i know they didn t get ksm. they said they got padilla the dirty bomber. i know they didn t get padilla the dirty bomber. more importantly the cia own investigation of the program revealed that not one single imminent threat was stopped because of enhanced interrogation techniques. so the department of justice investigation. so the department of defense investigation. unfortunately, for mr. rodriguez, today, we have volumes of documents that has been declassified by the government. that tell us the truth about what happened. bill: you say all the
muktar the name he had used. bill: don t get ahead of yourself there. who interrogated would you have bait da first. you or the fbi? who went in first to ask him fbi or cia. it was a joint effort. we went in together: soufan says he got information to from would you have bade da that led to information about khalid sheikh mohammed without the rough stuff it? did not lead to khalid sheikh mohammed. bill: once you started the rough stuff sue would you have bade da would you zubaydah. did he just shut down. we not waterboard him until
i know. bill: at some point. all right. you weren t there when zubaydah was being waterboarded that s a being fanchts right. bill: rodriguez said it did lead to valuable intelligence that saved lives i don t think if i was you i would call him a liar if you wasn t there. i was there. what they were giving us as examples they got. they said they got ksm. i know they didn t get ksm. they said they got padilla the dirty bomber. i know they didn t get padilla the dirty bomber. more importantly the cia own investigation of the program revealed that not one single imminent threat was stopped because of enhanced interrogation techniques. so the department of justice investigation. so the department of defense investigation. unfortunately, for mr. rodriguez, today, we have volumes of documents that has been declassified by the government. that tell us the truth about what happened. bill: you say all the
he had difficulty after he left us and went to guantanamo after he left. mr. rodriguez is totally wrong here. as fbi agents we are trained to deal with facts. ksm defied by us in early april of 2002. before even the outside contract torres hired by mr. rodriguez showed to the site. so these are the facts. bill: so he says though that you weren t on the site. you didn t know what the cia got out of zubaydah or bin al shibh and ultimately khalid sheikh mohammed you weren t on site. i was on site at the beginning. the fbi pulled out from the site. bill: where was the site. i cannot tell you that. bill: you were there in the beginning and who was present? what terrorist was present. zubaydah. bill: zubaydah was present and you were there in the beginning and the fbi and the cia were there together. yes. bill: at that point you weren t roughing him up.
muktar the name he had used. bill: don t get ahead of yourself there. who interrogated would you have bait da first. you or the fbi? who went in first to ask him fbi or cia. it was a joint effort. we went in together: soufan says he got information to from would you have bade da that led to information about khalid sheikh mohammed without the rough stuff it? did not lead to khalid sheikh mohammed. bill: once you started the rough stuff sue would you have bade da would you zubaydah. did he just shut down. we not waterboard him until