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Comprehensive gun laws is it s harder to get guns. i think the same would be true here. if you were just to expand the background check system so everybody had to have a background check no matter where they bought it, that would save you say just. with all of bloomberg s money and your good effort, you get two senators blown out of office because they dared to back you. the nra is smart about the way it does these things. in addition, you had a bunch of people involved in those like the koch brothers who wouldn t recognize a rifle if they fell over one. if you re a democrat, the last session was your wish list. and some people were angry about a lot of other things. sam, you re a general political correspondent, could it be what happened is guns like abortion have joined sort of the blue plate specials of the right and left. ....
Check, far fewer of these killings would happen. the tucson shooter slipped through the background check system. tighten it up, you ll have less opportunity for folks to do this kind of thing. in all fairness, the average nra member probably has a low crime rate. probably a very low violence rate. yet their positions on the constitution and their strict abhorrence of any type of gun safety law allows people who are the bad people or crazy people or dangerous people to get those guns. that s a fact. we talked about this before, but the interesting thing about the nra is there s a big divide between what reign and the nra leadership are trying to do in washington and what the average nra member is. you say that. i know the politics you re expressing here, mark. good try. but if they didn t want them as their leaders, they wouldn t be paying them. sam, your thoughts about this. be objective here. ....
I think it requires objectivity that the average nra person is as law-abiding. my brother s a big gun guy. wouldn t kill a deer in a million years. a good buy, but he supports gun rights to the last nth. if you read nra members certain polling framing and say do you support a background check for any gun purchase, by and large they ll say yes. and the data backs it up a lot. the question when you get down to it is it more like what you were talking about with me earlier is do you view it as a slippery slope? i think most would say yes. and there s a huge agree graphical component here. than it is for the country, for montana for instance. so when you have a congress that where every state has two senators and the people of north dakota have just as much representation in the senate as ....
Or try to not elect you in the first place. they will be motivated by a singular issue. let me talk about this thing with mark. what about the nra and what do you think how many days will pass before they comment about what happened in washington today? the shooting of 12 people because they went to work that day, basically, at the navy yard. that s what they did. they went to work. some guy came to shoot people at work. what are the nra going to say about this? it s senseless beyond senseless. i think they will probably say that. but i don t blame them because we re doing the same thing, waiting until we know more about what happened. it s entirely possible that no law would have changed this, but that s a false argument and the nra sort of says those things and says we should have a moment of silence and that drags on into months because nobody wants to address the core issues despite the fact there s broad agreement across the country. if everybody got a background ....
Multiple injuries. there s something wrong. the only thing i can say is we have to work together to get rid of it. i d like you to put my trauma center out of business. wow. this tragedy of course this morning came on the heels of the nra-backed recall. both senators who supported gun legislation. and a hostile right wing in the congress. so today s events offer any additional hope for tougher gun laws? big question. joining me now is sam stein and mark glaze. i want to start with you, mark, because you re out there advocating on behalf of your principal mike bloomberg and others. working to match the dollar power of others. we know semiautomatic weapons were used. we know somebody who shouldn t ....