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that s about 25 miles north of dallas. the began coming around in 5:30 pm eastern time. there are reports of multiple casualties but nbc news has not confirmed a number. the city of allen issued a public safety alert warning residents to stay away from the allen premium outlets. we ve seen what appears to be hundreds of people walking out with their hands up, presumably to indicate to authorities outside they are not a threat. frank figliuzzi, i want to bring you in here and ask, as you watch this unfold, which questions remain for you? the question is, obviously, is this contained? it s the shooter identified? and either apprehended or deceased? there are signs that that could be the case here in in terms of the tone and pace we are seeing now. that has changed drastically over the co what is the toll? for the casualties? how many? who are they? and then everybody has the same question. why? why did this happen? and then, of course, alicia menendez, there is the ....
It was a active shooter. it says the atf personnel are responding to at the allen premium outlets in allen, texas. our police department is the point of contact him over lease more information as it becomes available. we are working to confirm the number of casualties in this incident. nbc news is reaching out to multiple points of contact, including the allen police department to see if we can get a better idea. but we know this is an active, fluid situation, as we have seen multiple times or incidents like this. but we are monitoring multiple feeds right now to see what we can learn about this shooting, whether or not it is contained at this point. but during the situation we are going to keep monitoring and bringing more updates as they become available. george, we will continue to come back to for those updates. i want to bring in jim cavanaugh, he is retired atf special agent in charge of and a former hostage negotiator. heat is also an nbc terrorism analyst. jim cavanaugh, wh ....
Hundreds of millions of your tax dollars. that agency has not had a permanent director for six years, even as violent crime has soared nationwide. here is cbs catherine herridge. reporter: in 2016, joe, an army veteran, went to work for a.t.f. as an information specialist in the human resources department. i had to maintain the integrity of the information that went into the system. reporter: almost immediately, joe, who asked to be disguised and not to use his last name, said he noticed problems. a.t.f. personnel doing administrative jobs were paid a special bonus known as law enforcement availability pay, or leap for short. if you were functioning in an administrative capacity, you don t qualify for the pay, so you re not supposed to get it. a lot of people were getting it. reporter: government regulations stipulate the extra pay is reserved for criminal investigators who are on call and expected to work on unschedd additional hours. ....
Someone had pulled the fire alarm. the next thing i heard, police car, sirens, just happened so fast. multiple fatalities, multiple injuries precise numbers not yet available. brian todd is over at the u.s. navy yard just outside. brian, what else are you picking up? reporter: wolf, picking up add the police presence here around this part of the perimeter. this is the easternmost side of the navy yard. these are d.c. metropolitan police officers here in tactical gear. we ve seen multiple police officers moving up and down this part of the perimeter. there are some going down the street right there. also, we are we know from just visualizing, we ve got fbi personnel here as well as atf personnel. there s been a park police chopper circling very low over part of the neighbor yard just to my left. i believe he s coming around for another pass. he s actually very low over there. we can t pick him up with a camera right now because he s ....