Robbery thats burglary, ill get it right. And in this situation youve got somebody really caught in the middle of it, and that doesnt excuse the person from the consequences. Professors, weve talked about abuse of power and bribery. When we started we said we would also discuss obstruction of congress. So i would like to ask you some questions about obstruction of congress. Professor gerhardt, in your view, is there enough evidence here to charge President Trump with the high crime and misdemeanor of obstruction of congress . I think theres more than enough. As i mentioned in my statement, just to really underscore this, the third article of impeachment approved by the House Judiciary Committee against president nixon charged him with misconduct because he had failed to comply with four legislative subpoenas. Here it is far more than four
that this president has failed to comply with. And he has ordered the Executive Branch as well not to cooperate with congress. Those together with a
that the words were find the 11,700 votes or 12,000 votes. and you know, it is certainly suggestive or it could be interpreted as i want you do something illegal, but it could as easily mean there s 159 counties in georgia. there s bound to be some mistakes in ballot counting. we have found mistakes since then, so it s conceivable what he s saying is please don t stop looking, keep looking until you can find under any rock that there s fraud or ballots that, you know, trump ballots that weren t counted or biden ballots that aren t valid. but he never said, m mr. raffensperger, i want you and ryan and the other people in your office to sit down and create ballots and stuff the ballot box here in early january. or i want you to go back to the, you know, rooms where they re tabulating votes and start ripping them up. just to say i want you to find them sounds like a sloppy and, you know, maybe a trumpian way
then, so it s conceivable what he s saying is please don t stop looking, keep looking until you can find under any rock that there s fraud or ballots that, you know, trump ballots that weren t counted or biden ballots that aren t valid. but he never said, mr. raffensperger, i want you and ryan and the other people in your office to sit down and create ballots and stuff the ballot box here in early january. or i want you to go back to the, you know, rooms where they re tabulating votes and start ripping them up. just to say i want you to find them sounds like a sloppy and, you know, maybe a trumpian way of trying to achieve an end, but it doesn t strike me that you re going to convince people who aren t inclined to find him guilty of anything to convict him. jeff, do you agree with that? just with the phone call, it s not enough? i don t think the phone call is enough. but the phone call is plenty.
no such thing as off-the-record fund-raisers because especially in our world of mobile phones and recordings devices, everything is on the record. i m disappointed that mayor pete butt buttigieg does not have them covered like joe biden does. hillary clinton released her list of bundlers and so did barack obama. bundlers are individuals who collect donations that could be small dollars and donations up to $2,800. talking. people raised in the thousandairs i guess you can call it but that is significant money and those who raise, it should be publicly acknowledged. i must point out i think when elizabeth warren attacks mayor buttigieg for not breaking his nondisclosure green light with mckenzie it s a cheap shot and i think the voters will see through attacks like that that really aren t valid, versus more
has rejected your type of boundless interpretation say, well, it s just impeachment, we really don t have to prove the elements. that s a favorite mantra. that s sort of close enough for jazz. well, this isn t improvzational jazz. close enough isn t good enough. if you re going to accuse a president of bribery, you need to make it stick, because you re trying to remove a duly elected president of the united states. now, it s unfair to accuse someone of a crime and when others say, well, those interpretations used to define the crime aren t valid, to say they don t have to be valid because this is impeachment, that has not been the standard historically. if you my testimony lays out the criminal allegations in the previous impeachments. those were not just proven crimes.