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May 22, 2021 Doyle DeanPlaying like Grown-Ups : we talk with Saratoga Springs band Pencildive Pencildive at Jacob s Ladder, Troy, NY. Photo: Angela Sheil. Turns out you can just make a band. Just ask Pencildive s singer/songwriter Gina De Nardo. She and drummer Zach Hirsch spoke with me recently about their first full length record Grown-Ups. It was recorded in a cabin in the Adirondacks during the pandemic. Hirsch calls it a record of catharsis. You can hear the funnel of emotion that Hirsch describes on the ten tracks due out May 28th on Albany s Paintbox Records. And if the name Zach Hirsch sounds familiar to NCPR listeners it s because he was an NCPR reporter from 2013-2018. ....