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validity of the election itself, created a scenario in which americans across the country are not actually sure what happened and they don t know what to believe. those are exactly the kind of circumstances you need to create if what you want to do is undo an election or retain power falsely. and part of what we have experienced, rick stengel, is that is the long tale, that is what has continued to haunt american democracy, the fact that he may not have succeeded the way he intended to, but he did convince a swath of american voters that the past fair and free election was illegitimate. yes. it s so complicated. the electoral counteract, which is the guiding legislation that covers this was actually passed in 1887 because it was compensating for the tilden
promoting the counterfeit slates of electors, conspiring to interfere with the federal proceeding on january 6th, the joint session of congress to count the electors. and then fundamentally, a conspiracy to violate everybody s civil rights by stealing the election away from the illegitimate electoral process under the constitution and the electoral count act of 1887, and substituting instead his counterfeit process that he cooked up with john eastman and the other people involved in the conspiracy. my bet is that trump s recent post on a surprise to you. they weren t necessarily a surprise to me either. but even in the days since the arraignment, he s put out a number of threatening tweets. he tweeted a threat at mike pence, like you to be a key witness. he is tweeted out threats that could be regarded, targeted at any range of people, justice department, government. should there be some sort of gag order imposed here? what do you think should be done? well, the judge definitely
at its finest. motivat clay travis, how do e you think the trump votelectior the american voter, is going s? interpret thi well, i mean, the trump voter is going to rally around trump. jesse, because indisputably, this is an outrageous politicization of our justice department, the likes of which, frankly, i ve never seen in my entire life. and i want to focus on one aspect. i want to be the tru a lawyer here for justi a moment and use my fancy law degree. jesse.. what i can t get past is the y are trying to criminalize a legal theory in this indictment, . mean and let me explain exactly what i mean. when you look, i was doing research on this in december of 2022, they went and they changed the law as it pertains to the electoral count act. it was an 1887 law that was amended. there were legal advisers to donald trump who said thewery that mike pence had the ability to impact the way that we were receiving these electoral votes.