so, yes, it and this means that they re getting closer and closer to the president himself. you re shaking your head in agreement, james, why? i am, i mean, that s normally the course the way you would do it. the only thing that troubles me and i ve had a number of people say to me that a lot of this right now are you got two individuals, manafort and one of his associates that pled guilty to conspiracy, shady business dealings. it didn t connect necessarily to donald trump. the second piece of those were two ancillary process crimes and those were lying to an fbi agent. and that was george papadopoulos and general michael flynn last week, pleading guilty to title 18 of the united states code, 1,0001. a false and misleading statement. again, mueller didn t have them plead out to an underlying scheme. generally speaking, you don t want your cornerstone plea to be lying. why? because if he s going to use those two individuals to testify against the president, potentially, he s no
tie. that s just talk. overpuffiery or whatever. you are don t take it at face value. it is just talk. well, rod blagojevich is in prison for just talk. jennifer, give us a sense of the meeting today and what can you report? i think they were trying to do two things. of course they re trying to collect information and fill in the gaps. it sounds like that was only partially successful if it was successful at all. they re also now having a conversation, or taking testimony from donald j. for the first time which means he is, 1,0001 charges are a way to get a charge on someone if the underlying information doesn t pan out and doesn t lead to charges. so i think today was important. now they can use the statements
you can t say that was complete oversight on my part i shouldn t have but not when it starts to be a pattern. congressional say they have no record of flynn reporting a single meeting he had with a russian foreigner when he submitted his feliapplication. john dean, that s a problem. it is a problem. under 18 usc 10001 which is a tough statute which prosecutors know a lot about. do you think he is cooperating, some have said they believe he s cooperating with the fbi with the investigation, do you believe that? i don t yet. i think we d have more evidence of it, but if anybody has got good reason to help out and
facility to review the classified records from the defense intelligence agency. the records outlined the foreign contacts of former national security adviser mike flynn. based on what the men saw this morning on capitol hill, they believe it s likely that flynn violated 18 usc, 10001, a federal statute where a individual knowingly and materially makes a false statement. i see no information or no data to support the notion that general flynn complied with the law. that will be left up to others to decide. we want to know his exposure. but i agree with the chairman. i mean, he was supposed to get permission, he was supposed to report and he didn t. the congressmen are talking specifically about a trip mike flynn made in december of 2014 to moscow where he was paid in excess of $45,000 by r.t. or
even if it wasn t going on. if you anticipated it, but it was going on. then if you destroy records with the intent trying to obstruct an investigation, and if any of those records had anything this to do with benghazi, then would you have obstruction of justice as well as 10001. you might have quid pro quo if there are clinton foundation the speaking fee to bill clinton whether she intervened on ubs behalf. that s another specific statute that makes it a crime to interfere in an internal revenue service investigation. her call to the irs was described as unusual. then clinton got 1.2 million. let s assume that the fbi completes its investigation and they discover that there is enough evidence to indict and they bring this information to the attorney general and the obama administration, loretta lynch.