Leon panetta will also be here. And we will go indepth into a blockbuster New York Times report that the u. S. Has been involvedin cyber warfare against north korean miss still launches that is president and Republican Leaders begin a coordinated push to replace obamacare we will get a Progress Report from Health Human Services head dr. Tom price and have plenty of political analysis. All straight ahead on face the nation. Dickerson good morning and welcome to face the nation, i am john dickerson. The Senate Intelligence committee was already investigating russian efforts to med until the 2016 election but yesterday the president opened a whole new set of questions by accusing his predecessor, president obama of wiretapping Trumps Campaign headquarters and this morning, the president has asked Congressional Committees to investigate. We are going to try to sort through all of this today and we begin with the top democrat on the Senate IntelligenceCommittee Mark warner, senator, lets start with the claims by e on saturday that he had just found out obama had quote unquote my wires tapped in trump tower just before the victory, nothing found. He called it mccarthyism. What do you make of this . Well, john, lets step back for a moment and look at what we do know. We know that we have seen an unprecedented attack by a foreign adversary, russia, in terms of meddling in our election. We saw before the election thousand internet trolls trying to use and place classified information, we saw manipulation of certain algorithms so that if you googled certain items you got russian news, rt news, other false news, we saw the selective hacking into dnc and individuals that then tried to leak that information to benefit mr. Trump. We also saw before the election an unusual change in the republican platform in favor of russia. We saw encourage the russians to hack into Hillary Clinton and we saw this just unusual affection that the president seems to have, or once seemed to have with Vladimir Putin and since the inaugural, we have seen the resignation of the National Security advisor and recusal of the attorney general because of contacts with russia. Now we have this unsubstantiated claim made by the president which shows in a certain way that the president doesnt understand how you obtain a wiretap. You have to go before a judge and show either probable cause or if it is in terms of foreign intelligence a guy is a court and show that there is evidence of some type of contact with a foreign adversary. So what i find so strange and i thought the president s comments could no longer surprise me, but, boy, this one yesterday surprised me to make that type of claim without any evidence is, i think, very reckless. Dickerson do you think there, is lets stick to the president s claim first and go back to the other list. Do you think there is any fisa court order this morning on meet the press former director of National IntelligenceJames Clapper said there was no fisa court order. I am not aware of any fisa court order regarding the trump tower. Dickerson and other kinds of court orders. Ongoing investigation it is fbi might be taking, i am not aware, but it doesnt take a Sherlock Holmes to realize what this litany of events and this drip, drip, drip of activities, the investigation, i will have to tell you i have been in public life a long time, there is nothing i have done in any life in public tha that is as important as trying to get this investigation done right and bipartisan and get the facts out to the American People. Dickerson the president s claim, could he just be going off on something on a breitbart report or had access he has access to the best possible intelligence. He has access to the best not aware as general clapper has said of any kind of fisa order that was somehow, you know, in effect bugging trump tower, but i feel like this, again, feels like an attempt where the president is trying to distract us by filling out he is distracting with unsubstantiated information, again if the president is correct and he says there is nothing here, then he should welcome this investigation into dickerson have you seen any investigations between the Trump Campaign and russia . We are early into this investigation. We have our staff out looking at information. I will go out this week. We are going to have unprecedented access to all of the intelligence. Dickerson meaning fbi intelligence as well . Because breitbart says the fbi is holding back. All the intelligence that is appropriate we will get to all of that. I know my colleagues on both sides of the aisle will look at this and one of the things that gives me pride this ap colleagues on the committee, republican colleagues like Susan Collins and roy blunt, marco rubio all make public statements saying they are committed to not having this being interfered by politics and us getting to the bottom of it and getting the facts. Dickerson quickly on the fbi, though, house intelligence adam schiff is a says the fbi is holding the significant issues from members of congress smp that true . I believe i have a good working relationship with director comey. You know, we are at the beginnings of this and we will get the information we need to get 0 the bottom of this. Who are you going to call . Is Michael Flynn going to testify . Listen, i think we are looking at when to hold public hearings and also starting to prepare lists of individuals that i think need to come testify. I believe considering general flynns series of contacts and the fact he had to resign, i want to hear from general flynn. Dickerson are you working hand in hand with senator burn, the chairman of the committee. We have the ability to have frank conversations, we had conversations like that. I can tell you as recently as thursday chairman burr and i, and he was very strong with the Intel Community we need to get all of the facts and get access, unprecedented access and we got that access. Dickerson you say you have frank conversations. Senator burr was one the white house called an asset, to act as a character witness against these reports there was contact between trump and the russia. Do you have confidence i have confidence we are going to get to the bottom of this. He is going to do his job. Chairman burr and i are going to get this done. And if at any point, and i made this very clear from the outset if at any point i feel like we are not getting access to all of the information or if there are barriers to getting this done, then i will say so, and look for a different venue, but what gives me faith is that this is a committee, the Intelligence Committee for a lot of reasons works in a more bipartisan way than virtually any committee and the fact we hav republican members on the committee that are equal he committed to getting to the bottom of this. This is as serious as anything i have ever been involved in. Dickerson final question theres it is serious and there is an attempt by some people in the bureaucracy to put forward leaks that hurt the real estate. Do those leaks, which some, would, which some in your party cheer like crazy undermine what you are doing and betting to the bottom . Look any leaks of intelligence is serious and needs to be investigated. Because, you know, put peoples fliefs jeopardy potentially. I have great trust and respect for the Intelligence Community. I wish the president would show that same level of trust and respect for the scrns committee, because they do a good job for us, and they need to have we need to have their back. Dickerson all right, senator warner thanks so much for being with us and we now turn to a republican colleague of senator warners on the Intelligence Committee, senator Susan Collins. Senator, what do you make of what President Trump has said about these wiretaps. Shouldnt we talking about, should he be talking about this on twitter . Is this helpful . He turned it over to the Intelligence Committee any evidence that he has, what we need to deal with is evidence, not just statements. At this point, i would say no, i see no evidence of what he has alleged, but i also have not seen collaboration as director clapper also said today that he had not seen evidence of collaboration. We are at the very early stages of our investigation, and this is why it is so important that we do an indepth, exhaustive bipartisan, independent investigation, because the American People deserves answers to all of these allegations and counter allegations, so that we can get on with the business of this country. Dickerson the president ha said they are not going to talk anymore about his accusations over the weekend, but now that he has put that out there, he is the president of the yiewrks he had access to this information even if he may have been going off a news report, he has access to all of this information. Do you think it is important for him now to put forward this evidence in some form to back up his claims because it is now out there and people might think because he is the president he has some special understanding . In other words, not wait until the committee is done with its work but does he have an obligation to present some kind of evidence now that he has put this charge out there about president obama . The president has called for congressionallations into the allegations that he made starting yesterday morning, so i would expect that he is going to want to provide our committee with any evidence that he has. My own theory is that the russians are determined to sew the seeds doubt about the legitimacy of our democracy and other we were democracies, and that they were going to do that regardless of who was elected president. So it is really important that we know what happened, what the facts are, that we bet to the bottom of this. Dickerson when you say he will provide the committee with information, but do you think he owes something to the public now that he has kind of thrown this out there and now superintendent going to say anything more about it but it is out there and live does he owe the public more than what he owes the committee, just as a matter of public trust . Do you agree with that . It would probably be helpful if he gave more information, but it also might be helpful if he Just Department comment further and allowed us to do our work. The committees work is underway. I am convinced we are going to do the kind of exhaustive, indepth and prompt these allegations to rest. One way or the other. Dickerson you mentioned going through everything, and i am going to ask you about President Trumps tax returns, because some people believe and we are going to need to figure out whether there was any influence on the president you have to know whether there were any ties to russia. You said that the committee will perhaps subpoena the tax returns if necessary. Do you think a Committee Investigation that ends without looking at the tabs returns has fulfilled its duty that the committee fulfilled its duty . It is premature for me to reach that conclusion right now. What i am convinced of, because i know this committee well and i know how seriously we take this charge is that we will go wherever the evidence leads us and that we will get all of the information that we need. If that includes President Trumps tax returns, then i have confidence that we will ask for them. If we dont need we wont. But it is too soon to tell. Dickerson but will you come up with sort of a hunting list in terms of all the places cow would want inquiry and wouldnt the tax returns be a pretty high up on the list on that . Lets see where the evidence leads us. We are just now beginning to have facts as senator warner mentioned to the information that the Intelligence Community has, like senator warner, i will be going over to review that information. It is many binders thick, so lets see where the evidence leads us. Dickerson let me ask you a question quickly on the Affordable Care act. You put forward an alternative or a bill. Where do things stand in the republican ranks in terms of a replacement for the Affordable Care act . There is not a consensus. This is very difficult to achieve the president s goals and the goals that many of us have of wanting to expand access the prices we have seen a lot of problems with the individual markets, in a death spiral in many states under the acat so the irony here is regardless of who is elected president , we were going to have to do Major Repairs on the aca. I put forth a plan with senator cassidy, who is a physician, that is a comprehensive plan that gives states the options of doing what is best for their citizens, and we believe would actually expand the access to health insurance. That is our goal. But there is not a consensus at this point. Dickerson very quickly, how long do you think it will take to get to consensus . There are a few minor details or still talking about the big complicate business of something that takes a, up 15 percent of the economy . It is very complicated and we shouldnt rush it. We need to get this right. Dickerson all right, senator collins, thanks so much for being with us and we will be back in one minut the form never head o of the ci, former secretary of defense and former chief of staff, it is all one person, that is leon panetta comincoming up when we come bacn one minute. And contains the best oral decongestant. Live claritin clear, with claritind. Sfx engine revving silence joining us now is former secretary of defense and cia director leon panetta. Both secretary, panetta lets start with the new revelation Organization Claims by the president. Who do americans look to be the adult 0 to say who is, this is what is happening . Well, you know, what i see here is this president is making the same mistake past president s made when they faced scammeds that he is trying to divert attention. They are trying to obfuscate and trying to cover up. They are trying to somehow raise other issues and in the end, it is going to be the truth that will determine what is involved here, and not tweets but the truth. Dickerson we had an instance where this week the attorney general had to recuse himsel campaign events. We have got, now you have got investigative intelligence commit examine tease investigating. I mean, do you think people just need to wait for the Intelligence Committees in the house and senate to do their work or is there some better way you think to get at what are now several sets of issues. There is the russian melding and now the claims the president made, quite extraordinary claims, a, and maybe, and maybe you can given your experience to give some context to claim that his predecessor was wiretapping and comparing him to nixon and mccarthy. The best advice i can give the president and this administration is to get ahead of this, dont get behind it. Get ahead of it. Present the facts as they know it and commit themselves to cooperating with the investigations that are going on. This issue is not going away. It is not going away. There is too much here. We found the russians to have tried to interfere in our election process. The administration has denied contacts with the russians and we are finding out that that is not true, that there have been contacts with the russians. And lastly, the president himself has raised this issue this whole National Security team has condemned the russians and putin and he still winds up defending putin. So you put all of that together, it may not lead you to some kind of collaboration or collusion, but it raises issues that have to be investigated. That is why you need a bipartisan and i want, a thorough and a credible investigation. Dickerson when you say i want, but that can still be within the congress . Yes. No. I think as you have seen, these are responsible members of congress who want to look into this issue, i think they deserve the opportunity to do that. I would hope they dont run into robs, because if they do run into political problems in the course of this investigation them we may very well have to turn to a special prosecutor. Dickerson what do you think foreign, other countries think about when they look at president accusing his predecessor and accuses against the president , how does this affect our standing as other countries look to america. It is sending a terrible message out there. I can tell you based on my own conversations with people abroad that they are very concerned about the administration, about the president , they are concerned about whether he truly is going to be committed to the kind of world leadership that we have seen the United States provide, but wherever time these things happen, every time he tweets, every time these issues come up that indicate that, you know, there is obviously something to this russian issue and the administration is not cooperating, when that happens, when you, he accuse as past president of wiretapping without any evidence of that being the case, it makes us vulnerable. It weakens the United States and it makes us vulnerable to our enemies. That is the danger. Dickerson speaking of enemies of the United States, north korea and the New York Times has a piece today about u. S. Efforts using cyber warfare to basically hurt the north Korean Missile system. Sh