>> we will sing along with richard sherman. >> supercalifragilisticexpialidosis (s). >> later on sunday morning. >> osgood: bill geist has been seeing red lately and this morning he will be telling us why .. >> don't say redheads -- it doesn't look that way to me. they are everywhere you look. >> i think we are going to break the record. i really think we have got it. >> we will have you seeing red and nothing but red later on sunday morning. >> osgood: mary steenburgen is an actress with a natural charm that lights up the screen, not to mention a newly emerging even she can't fully explain. with lee cowan we will drop in for a visit. >> the first bachelor party i ever attended that could be covered by medicare. >> you might thing mary steenburgen would be busy enough starring opposite four hollywood legend but there is another passion that keeps her up at night that came entirely out of the blue. >> reporter: so why the accordion? i am not judging. i am just asking. >> you are a hater. >> mary steenburgen's musical awakening, later on sunday morning. >> osgood: anthony mason talks money and others matters, the former, with al former fed chairman alan greenspan and explores the work of the surrealist painter magritte and tells the story of medal of honor recipient swenson and more. first the headlines for this sunday morning, the 20th of october, 2013. well a manhunt for two convicted killers mistakenly released from a florida prison son is at an end. >> mark strassmann has our report. >> reporter: they surrounded, surrendered without a struggle investigators say, they escaped prison separately but were hold up together in a beach motel. the two convicted murderers have been serving life sentences when forged court orders freed them. >> but a murder victim's relative was notified of the early release and she alerted authorities. >> it has happened before, since 2010, two inmates, one in wisconsin, the other in pennsylvania used forged court paperwork to escape. we spoke about this prison scam with anthony shimbrane, the former commissioner of new york city's prison system. >> every time you build a new mousetrap the mice get smarter. inmates are constantly looking and watching what we do. >> last friday a florida tightened its system by requiring sentencing judges to verify all early releases. >> for sunday morning, this is mark strassmann in orlando. >> osgood: j.p. morgan chase is said to have agreed to a tentative settlement in the federal government's case of mortgage backed securities that contributed to the 2008 mortgage meltdown. >> they are ordered to pay $13 billion, still outstanding is a federal criminal lawsuit. a san francisco commute train struck and killed two workers yesterday, the line is a part of the bay area transit system which has been hit by a walkout and being staffed by management personnel. city halls in new jersey are adding extra workers to accept marriage license applications from same sex couples. >> the state's supreme court ruled friday to allow same-sex marriages effective tomorrow. >> the 2013 world series match-up is set, last night the boston red sox defeated the detroit tigers 5-2, followed by a dramatic grand slam home run by shane victorino. >> the world series opens at. >> against the st. louis cardinals this wednesday night. >> here is the weather for today, sunny skies for much of the east, and the west will have a stellar day, sunday and warm temperatures. for parts of the upper midwest they have their first snow of the season. the week ahead should bring more sunshine to the east with a chance of rain later in the week and the rest of the country should be mostly sunny and dry. next, secrets to bouncing back from misfortune. and later -- >> magritte is all about making pictures that make you think >> magritte is all about making pictures that make you think about♪ for a store near you go to benjaminmoore.com/dcmetro. and i sponsored this ad. candidate for attorney general, if you 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animals. >> which is why glen and her husband, both expert divers went on a caribbean scuba expedition 11 years ago, photographing sharks. and i would just slowly cruise around, it is almost like watching horses. >> and some were almost as big. on day 5, this seven-foot female got uncomfortably close. >> her eye was just maybe eight inches from my eye and she just hung there vertically in the water. >> reporter: then she struck. >> and she had a whole right upper body in her mouth, so when she whipped back and forth, my forehead would slam in the water and the back of my head would slam the water. >> reporter: when the shark suddenly let go she took a chunk of glen's arm and shoulder with her. >> i could see blood everywhere. >> unbelievable that you survived. >> it is. it really is. >> i mean, that samir cal in itself. >> reporter: second miracle, six surgeries and a few weeks later, she was back at work. she had no use of her right hand, was haunted by flash blacks, but determined to resume normal life, on the farm, and, yes, even back in the water. >> reporter: do you consider yourself extraordinarily resilient? >> i do now. i am proud of the way i handle things. >> most of us come nose to nose with sharks only in the safety of an aquarium which is probably a good thing, but bad things happen on dry land as well and people bounce back from trauma all the time. which raises that age old question, what about me? faced with a real crisis how resilient would i be? >> you can train yourself to be more resilient. >> okay. what do i do? >> 20 years ago, psychiatrist dennis chaney, now dean of the sinai medical school. >> was studying soldiers and posttraumatic stress and became fascinated with the resilience of those who didn't have it. >> we came up with a series of factors that seemed to be prevalent in all different populations of people and all different kind of trauma. >> he says in disasters like 9/11 or hurricane sandy, people are more likely to weather the storm when they have strong social support, a strong community, and if there isn't one, real survivors will make their own, especially true, he found, among former pows. >> many of them were in solitary confinement for years and they weren't allowed to talk, so they developed a way of communicating by tapping on the wall and the analogy is, that everybody needs a tap code. a way of developing a support system, a, communicating with other people that are going to help them get through tough times. >> even in the toughest times, resilient powss shared something else, unshakable optimism. >> one of the pows told us we knew we were 8,000 miles away and nobody was going to come get us and we were being held by an enemy, but together, we felt we were going to prevail. >> reporter: i have been here since 1985 -- >> mickey glen certainly can relate to that. >> if somebody says to you, good lord, mickey how did you come back from this? what do you tell them? >> i just stumbled upon positive at this and how strong it is, that is a large part of it. >> how important is the role of optimism in your ability to persevere? .. >> it was the most important aspect of my survival. >> reporter: like mickey glen she beat long odds by staying hopeful, but unlike glen, her trauma was decades long. >> my mother was mentally ill and self medicated with drugs and alcohol and ended up having with five different men. >> but focused her rage on her middle child, something you would hardly guess from regina's brave little smile in one of her few childhood photos. >> she would pick up my body and throw it into a wall and lift up the back of my hair and bang my head into the ground and while i was down as this child she would be kicking me in the ribs and kicking me in the back. >> school was a safe haven, but as she writes in her recent memoir she recent, was often homeless and couldn't go. >> how did you survive? how did you feel yourself? >> we stole food to eat, i was drinking vinegar to survive. >> drinking vinegar? >> i figured out it suppressed my appetite and i would be less hungry with it. >> by eight she realized her situation was neither her fault nor hopeless. by 14, she had won legal and, emancipation from her mother. she went on to college, then law school, today, she is a top aide to the governor of new york. >> reporter: do you consider yourself a resilient person? >> yes. if i am knocked down, i get up very quickly and just move forward and i always have. >> reporter: do you think you are unusual? >> do you think i am unusual? >> reporter: not at all. probably would be george benano's answer to that, a professor of psychology at teachers college his studies show people are a lot more resilient than they think. >> we just did a study on spinal cord injury and resilience was over 50 percent. >> reporter: that's right. more than half the people he interviewed in the hospital showed no signs of depression or anxiety. another study of trauma centers had equally impressive results. >> people who are minding their own business suddenly were injured in a single incident trauma, bells and whistles and ambulances and required emergency surgery, very scary stuff and the resilient people would have been more than half of the people. >> about 60 percent in that study, yes. >> all of these years later, mickey glen and regina look back at their experiences almost philosophically. >> do you get annoyed at people when they get all upset about life's little issues and -- >> absolutely. i do, i do. and i actually think that it is good that they get upset about the small things, because then they didn't experience such pain and suffering. >> if you could magically erase this whole thing from your life, would you do it? >> no. i have learned so much through it, i learned that you are who you are on the inside and it doesn't matter how scarred you are on the outside, i mean, those are life lessons that most people don't get to learn. >> >> osgood: we are headed north of the border next. >> >> osgood: and now a page from our sunday morning almanac, october 20th, 1818, 195 years ago today. the united states and britain signed a treaty establishing the 49th parallel as the border between canada and the western united states from northern minnesota to the base of the stony mountains as they were then called. later agreements extended the 49-degree line west to the pacific, but maintaining those 49 degrees hadn't been exactly straightforward, for one thing, early surveyors working without the benefit of gps, mistakenly marked out a boundary that sition and sation as much as 175 feet north and 784 feet south of where it is supposed to be and also because of a misunderstanding, an isolated patch of land along the lake of the woods called the northwest angle wound up in the u.s. despite being north of the 49th parallel, though the two countries adjusted the border so that all of vancouver island was in can -- they overlooked nearby point roberts, which sticks slightly south of the 49-degree line. as a result, point roberts was an american outpost cut off from the rest of the usa, it is roughly 1,000 residents had to cross the border every time they go in and out of their own hometown. just under 4,000 miles from maine to washington and another 1,500 miles, here to include alaska the u.s. canadian boundary is often celebrated as the world's longest undefended border between two nations though there have been some changes in the post 9/11 world. you now need either a passport, a passport card or so-called enhanced driver's license or id card to cross causing delays and aggravation for some. and seemingly deserted woods and fields are now monitored by infrared cameras and motion detectors. even sew it is still one of the least intimidating borders in the whole world. >> >> ahead, we journey into the world of magritte. >> this portion of sunday morning is sponsored by hp. it's time to build a better enterprise. >> . >> osgood: when magritte is the signature on a painting chances are it is a mind-bending picture demanding a closer look. ours comes from -- >> reporter: when is a kiss not exactly a kiss? a landscape more than just a landscape? or a portrait something, well, surreal? >> in the world of belgian painter rene magritte, nothing is what it seems. >> magritte is all about making pictures that make you think about pictures. he is the artist who looks at ordinary objects but in these extraordinary ways. >> reporter: like a fireplace with a locomotive dashing out under full steam, or this portrait of a man-made of a bird cage. >> this picture epitomizes sort of the way magritte creates very clear pictures and the longer you look the more you realize their meaning is absolutely unclear. >> reporter: and, anne is the curator of the mystery of the order, an exhibition at the museum of modern museum in new york that focuses on the evolution of magritte's work from 1926 to 1938. >> it is a time when he makes quantitatively and conceptually more work in more modes, more variety than he ever has before. >> it is a period when magritte becomes magritte. >> rene magritte was born in lecene a small town in bell uh yum, in 19. >> his father was a textile merchant and when a magritte was 13 his mother committed suicide. >> i think what was probably even more impactful on him than the event of the death itself is that he would remain, when he was a young boy, locked in a room with this depressed woman. >> honestly, if you wished to read back into the work, look at the type of spaces magritte is depicting and think about how clause voluntary to bic they are. klaus to bic they are. >> in 1926 .. magritte joined andre, salvador dali and other artists in paris and became known as the surrealist creating unsuspected often dream like imagery. >> you both have a self image of magritte practicing his craft, at the say time, same time you have an image of his conceptual process because when you look of course he is staring at an egg but what is he painting? he is painting a bird. >> challenging the viewer's perception of reality would become magritte's hallmark. he was something of a paradox, while his works defied convention, there was nothing of the artistic bohemian about him. >> he often painted in a suit and was married to the same woman georgette for 45 years. >> magritte lived a secluded life and he died in 1967, but his whimsical, playful, mind-bending images had already been embraced by popular culture. his apple was the inspiration for the beatles apple record logo and rockout covers mimicked his design. >> and how about this eye? looks familiar? >> when someone asked him what he thought about cbs appropriating his painting, the false mirror of the eye filled with sky, the famous eye was based on his painting. >> on his painting. >> and he sort of felt indifferent about it because cbs ended up with was just a symbol on a background that was aiming to start something or brand something where his painting had no purpose other than poetry. >> billionaire and avid collector wilbur ross understands that poetry, he owns 25 magrittes. >> even andy warhol had a magritte and i think you can argue that pop art couldn't have occurred while magritte, freeing magritte whoever would have painted a soup can. >> are you the largest private collector of magritte? >> i don't know, probably the most active one right now. >> right. >> it is when you get obsessed you get obsessed. >> two of ross's paintings are on loan to the exhibition, which is the first solo magritte show in new york city in more than 20 years. >> what do you want people to feel and be left with after the show? >> i would like them to understand what a great modern artist magritte is. he is always saying a picture is just a picture, an image is not the same as the thing itself. >> in other words, look and think, because in the world of rene magritte, everything is open to interpretation. >> osgood: coming up -- >> ♪ i thinker. >> osgood: geist is seeing red, but first. >> a few tunes. >> supercalifragilisticexpialidosis (s). >> it is something quite atrocious. >> it is sunday morning on cbs, and here again is charles osgood. >> osgood: that is dick van dyke and julie andrews singing supercalifragilisticexpialidosis (s). from the 1964 movie mary poppins. it stands to reason the writers behind that very long song titles would have a long series of hits, songs that struck a cord with our nancy giles. >> it is a song world after all. >> their songs are sung the world over, so infectious, so unforgettable and so ubiquitous that, well, sometimes they can be down right annoying. >> it is a small, small world. >> now you say people want to can kiss you or kill you. >> oh, sure. they call it an earworm, you can't get it out of your ear. it just crawls in there and stays. >> oh a spoon full of sugar helps the medicine go down. >> these and hundreds more are the creations of brothers richard and robert sherman one of the most prolific song writing duos of all-time. >> chitty chitty bang bang. >> willie the poo. >> willie, silly old bear. >> you have been reported as saying he wrote the words and music, you wrote the music and words. >> that's a good way to say it, we sat in the room together and stirred up, stirred up the pot. >> you came up with something and him coming up with something better. >> a frenzied ping-pong game. >> growing up, older brother robert aspired to write novels, richard, symphonies. >> one day their song writing father gave them a challenge. >> i bet you couldn't team up together and write a song that some kid would give up his lunch money to buy a record of it. >> i don't think you have enough brains to do that and he turned around and left. >> was he serious or pulling your leg? >> dead serious. >> wow! >> this was the result. >> tall paul, their first hit sung by former disney mouse question score annette. >> it wasn't long before walt disney himself took note, and thus began a big bright beautiful collaboration. >> just a dream away. >> as songwriters dick and bob sherman of the walt disney studio. >> is that a little scary thing, seven dwarfs looking down at you. >> no, they are friendly, my goodness without those guys i wouldn't be here. >> true. >> and there he is. >> richard smer man is 85 now, as up beat and vibrant as the songs he and his brother composed. >> robert was 86 when he died in 2012. >> in the early sixties, the brothers occupied adjacent offices on the disney lot, right down the hall from walt. >> they called you the boys? >> he gave us the name the boys. he didn't like formality and he hated being called mr. disney he liked being called walt, he liked that very much. >> for richard sherman the memories of those early days are sweet. especially one night in 1965, when the brothers took home two oscars for mary poppins. >> a wonderful, wonderful night, it was a great, great experience, one for the song and one for the score. >> also in richard's den, a slew of grammys and enough gold and platinum records to build, fill two walls. >> plus -- >> oh, look. >> there is more! >> since they were writing, many of the sherman scores have taken on a life of their own on stage. >> i will become a man, man cub and -- >> these days, the jungle book is breaking box office records at the huntington theatre in boston. >> richard sherman, enthusiastically embraces all of it. >> and i can't get down the bottom r -- >> i am a happy guy, everything was great and wonderful, this is the best of all possible words are worlds. >> bob was more serious minded. >> and if there was a song that would express you and your personality and your brother and his personality -- >> let me see. with me it would be supercalifragilisticexpialidosis (s). >> and he would be more feed the birds. >> yes. >> he loved that song. >> feed the birds. >> mary poppins was the first movie i ever saw, i think i was three and a half. we got this album, although our copy in the guiles family had lots of spaghetti stains. >> and little fingerprints on every part of it and now it is the subject of this new movie saving mr. bang. >> absolutely, it is how this came amount. >> the story of the making of mary poppins will open in december with tom hanks as walt disney. >> you can't imagine how excited i am to finally meet you. >> my name is mrs. travers, mr. disney. >> walt, you have to call me walt. >> and emma thompson is pl travers. >> the rethrough receive writer who wants no part of walt disney's wonderful world. >> this is it. that is not a word. >> we made it up. >> well, unmake it up. >> jason schwartzman plays richard sherman. >> we were working and having a great time writing this, coming up with crazy words like supercalifragilisticexpialidosis (s). >> right. >> and mrs. travers disliked everything. >> of course, the real richard sherman was on hand during the filming to give jason schwartzman a few pointers. >> how would you grade him on a scale of one to ten? >> a plus. >> ah. >> there you go. >> when the cat has got your tongue there is no need for dismay, make up a word and you have a lot to say. >> and a ++ is how i felt. >> getting a chance to share the joy richard sherman has brought to the world for all of these years. >> for me, it was all just -- >> supercalifragilisticexpialidosis (s). >> supercalifragilisticexpialidosis (s)! >> osgood: next, former fed chairman alan greenspan on the bubble that went bust. >> taken once daily insulin for type 2 diabetes to help control high blood sugar. dial the exact dose. inject by pushing a button. no drawing from a vial. no refrigeration for up to 42 days. levemir® (insulin detemir [rdna origin] injection) is not recommended to treat diabetic ketoacidosis. do not use levemir® if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. the most common side effect is low blood sugar, which may cause symptoms such as sweating, shakiness, confusion, 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to 5:00. at 6:00 o'clock, tip tip would go to the west wing of the white house and have one with his old buddy jerry, that doesn't exist anymore. >> you won't find a republican at a democrat cocktail party. >> you can but you have to look very hard. >> what do you think of shutting down the government as a political strategy? >> we are in a democratic society shouldn't, the government should, shutting down the government should not be on the agenda. >> as far as flirting on default on the nation's debt? >> the whole system is based on trust. you break trust down and the system implodes. >> so we are playing with fire? >> indeed we are. >> when he left the federal reserve in 2006, america was in its greatest period of economic growth in our history and greenspan was the economy's rock star, revered around the world. >> that is your favorite picture? >> that is my favorite picture. >> even cuba's communist leader, photographed with greenspan's memoir, was a fan. >> what is this all about? >> i was knighted. >> does that come with a title or anything? >> i was sir alan in the united kingdom and nowhere else. >> but then came 2008, the housing bubble burst, lehman brothers collapsed, the stock market plunged. >> people were blaming you for what happened. >> uh-huh. >> i am a human being, when i get criticism like i got, obviously, i don't like it. but, you know, i have got, i got a lot of praise which i didn't deserve as well. >> >> reporter: one editorial in particular struck him. >> i said basically, do we economists know anything? and it was a very legitimate question because you don't know enough to capture the most extraordinary event, economic event in all of our life times, what in the world do we really know? >> it is like a mystery story to me. >> how in the world did i miss it? and i said i am going to find out why. >> he spent two years going back through the data and charts writing his new book, the map and the territory. >> and it became very apparent to me that we misunderstand how systesymptomatic fear is. >> symptomatic here. >> .. the fear that led to panic selling and the euphoria that went into the housing bubble were not in the computer models, greenspan himself believed irrational behavior could not be projected or analyzed. >> i was wrong. >> can you put human behavior in an equation? >> you can measure it because if you look at the business model, for example, it drives it up like this and then fear collapses it, and you can take one cycle after the other and they look alike. >> underestimating fear, greenspan admits, was not his only mistake. >> i think a lot of things i got wrong people missed, i still got them wrong. >> like what? >> i forgot. >> long before he was an economist, greenspan had other ambitions. he studied music at juilliard, and toured for a year with the henry jerome swing band, playing saxophone and clarinet. >> when was the last time you looked inside of this? >> i hate to tell you. >> doesed it look familiar. >> greenspan pulled out his original clarinet for us. >> this brings back memories. >> which dates from the 1940s. >> i would blow it but the problem unfortunately is i remember how i used to sound. and i just try to remember that and leave it at that. >> greenspan saw he was never going to be a great musician. >> when i played next to stan jets, who i was 16, he was 15, and i played for years, side by side with him in a band, and he pretty much determined i was going to become an economist. >> reporter: but it did lead him to his wife, andrea mitchell. >> in fact, what originally attracted me to her is she liked the same music that i did. >> there is a disagreement about how many times you proposed. >> i think she said five and you said three. >> well, i still didn't get it. >> greenspan and the nbc news correspondent have been married for 16 years. >> is he an obsessive writer? >> compulsive. >> he is morning, noon and night, to the point where we would be driving to the tennis court and he would be looking at some manuscript and asked ask me to drive so he could edit copy during the red lights. just come to a stop. >> you get an epiphany you don't want to lose it. >> good afternoon. >> back at the federal reserve, there is about to be another changing of the guard. >> she is tough, just because she is, not just because she is from brooklyn. >> janet yellin nominated to be the next head of the fed served under greenspan in the nineties. >> what do you think of her? >> he is a very intelligent woman, i am glad to see her as the first woman chairman of the fed. it is long over due. >> he runs a consulting business now, still keeping his eye on the economy. at 87, there is nothing retiring about alan greenspan. >> is that an option? >> is what an option? >> retirement. >> i don't know what it means. i mean, what do you do, stop thinking? >> nurse ratchet will have the usual. >> nurse ratchet will have the usual. >> coming up, pumpkin c♪ for a store near 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other patients when dad announced, anyone want a coffee? i'm buying. >> a pumpkin caramel? >> seven years have past. >> coffee and coffee with cream. >> his dad beat his cancer and stopped coming here long time ago. >> so why is dan still taking order. >> nurse ratchet will have the usual. >> it is the best i have ever had and i get paid to do it. >> thank you. someone said can you afford that, no, but i never had any money anyway, why not share. >> to date, dan, a retired audio-visual specialist for the local school district has spent about $10,000 of his own money on coffee drinks for cancer patients. >> thank you, thank you. >> he buys the drinks, almost too many at a time. >> he brings them to mercy and now another hospital across town. >> it is obviously a very sweet thing to do. >> but oncologist dr. raj said dan's drinks do a lot more than taste good. >> it is a cup of coffee, what difference can it make. >> it is not just the coffee, it is coffee is a vehicle for the relationship. >> i saw what he meant. >> he is a wonderful person. >> 78-year-old anna burell is one of his regulars. >> it makes me feel like somebody cares. >> i heard that same sentiment from virtually every one of his customers. >> they all want to pay him, completely unaware that they already have. >> that's all you need, is just a smile. that's all you need. and i have a memory bank full of wonderful smiles. >> and dan doesn't even see the half of them. i noticed that long after he has moved on to the next delivery, people are still celebrating his presence. >> whoever said coffee isn't good for you. >> you hear people talk aut i is the spawn of the delve of something, spawn of the devil or something like that . >> vil. lucille ball, rita hayworth, nicole kidman and debra, what do thethey have all have in common it turns out none was born a natural redhead. iit is enough to have authentic redheads seeing red, bill geist is among them. >> would you consider yourself a natural redhead. >> i wouldn't know. >> are you a natural redhead? >> no. >> is your hair naturally red? >> no, it is dyed. >> it is a great job channel. >> he is having a bad hair day. >> way, wait, are you a natural redhead. >> canvassing portland, oregon for natural redheads. >> natural redheads. hmm. and not having much luck. >> would you consider yourself a natural redhead. >> he grew increasingly desperate. >> from afar in the light it definitely looks red. >> i am gathering the largest number of natural redheads in one place. >> his goal was to amass 1,300 redheads. >> tomorrow. >> to set a new guinness world record for a mass of redheads. >> all right, thanks. >> and partly to symbolize that redheads are not on the edge of extinction which recent reports have suggested. >> is extinction a myth? >> yes. that is not even possible. >> as the one flaming now fading redhead myself, i was concerned, i got my red hair from grandma. >> stand up for your life. >> to rusty the event was also a chance for the redheaded minority, about two percent of the world's population, to foster solidarity, community and pride. >> i burn in the shade on a cloudy day. >> a sunscreen company was a strong supporter of this event for paille skin. >> what is your spf number. >> at least 200. >> you hear people joke around like we are the spawn of the devil or something like that, i just laugh. >> it turns out that we redheads have issues. who knew. >> being a redhead itself, being called a redhead can be pretty pejorative. >> name calling starts with carrot top and goes to ranga, short for orangutan and things go downhill from there. >> sometimes it is a bully situation, where it is just like not fun. >> it was always touted as a little girl because there wasn't a charlie angel that wasn't a redhead. >> she was there to interview other redheads for a documentary on redheads. >> when we get over and realize, oh, i actually am okay, it is cool for me to be their friend and, different and unique and i embrace that now. >> also share a rich heritage. >> redheaded stranger, in minnesota. >> thor was a redhead, thomas jefferson, van gogh, bow zoe, and two napoleons, bonaparte and dynamite. >> .. this extravaganza attracted all manner of redheads. >> i feel pretty unique. >> most said they were happy about having red hair. >> i think i just embraced it, it is fabulous so -- >> i think we are going to break this record, i really believe we have got it. [ cheers and applause ] >> eventually, it was time to count redheads for the guinness record. >> rusty asked that i stand with them and be counted. >> the ocean of orange swelled. >> cameras clicked. >> but alas even with 1,207 redheads, he fell short of being the world record 1255. >> but records aren't everything, in the end, it was nice just to be amongst my own kind. >> >> osgood: next, lee cowan at home with mary steenburgen and ted danson. >> my first thought on that is, this is the most ridiculous the creature i have ever met my entire life. >> and she was mine from that moment on. >> osgood: and later, medal of honor recipient captain william swenson. >> >> osgood:. >> you know i will have to take you to a hypnotist. >> why? >> so w we can start making love again. but that is okay. >> it is sunday morning on cbs. and here again i

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