Second units he had no interest in considering any requests we made thank you very much. Im leslie a member of the Eureka Valley and Land Use Committee id like to read a letter if ellen former wanting of the association dagger or Dear Commission the catalyst and the potrero Eureka ValleyNeighborhood Association has reviewed the topic of the permit operation at 3 to ord street the Eureka ValleyNeighborhood Association was the record of the supervisor wiener department of Human Services passed if 2013 it didnt meet the basic scale and size determined by the sgmdz we ask the Planning Commission deny this for a conditional use permit than you. Im wrapping up you recognize a lot of our faces weve come back time and times again about the projects in our neighborhood i have this visible Health Talking about why you see the same people i know weve even few months a new project the interim controls they came up as drs now cus were disappoint the Planning Department is recommending this project in our minds the intent the sgmz here one tiny portion of city two culdesacks two 6 very large developments that are proposed are underway that is why it seems like theyre under siege and supervisor wiener came through with 9 interim zoning controls i believe the plans are reasonable theyre not saying no, but something in scale with the neighborhood that make sense and didnt have the detrimental impacts theyve gone on about today if this proposal were necessary and desirable we wouldnt have won and 19 signatures or both Neighborhood Association saying no to this and ive also want to thank you for your time and consideration and to mention a shadow in particular that is commissioner antonini who during the 22 ord Court Hearing distributed houses that were in the orders of 2 three hundred and 21 hundred square feet as goodsized go singlefamily homes we agree that that that seems reasonable to us so were asking you, please deny the conditional use here there are were trying to not have everybody come up and talk we have some people that didnt get to talk if you could stand up we had anymore people around three or four this afternoon thank you all very much the 32 ord Street Developer builds over 3 three hundred square feet. Im sorry your time is up. Sorry. Okay is there any additional Public Comment . Okay nirts Public Comment is closed. Commissioner richards. Interestingly enough with the project changed that week can you put the plans up i dont believe i was we got a hardcopy i was interested in the second unit. I dont how to focus this thing. This is the jury box pearlman this is the second floor the first floor above the street level a portion of that room that exists were digging further in the stake in the back from the garage to the house you know to singlefamily above so we were able to get 5 hundred square feet but in keeping the existing house twlrs windows up front but once you go back slightly youre into the hill so in terms of making it burn that we would on this be digging further into the hillside. There was a house down the street i held up a year ago by duncan i believe at 82 ord court was a magnifies i dont know if the neighborhood knows it dwarfs to the next door but a smaller small studio units that went with that one my understanding i understand is sold and it was to me desirable you know youve got constraints on the lot i completely understand that i think you can adding the second unit and getting action on the desirable i think the legislation really was to from supervisor wiener was really he says not sold in the housing crisis im cynical are we adding to Housing Stock i would be supportive of the project if you have something that kind of went into the reliance of a code compliant of 3 thousand one hundred square feet the neighbors are calling for if you want to create a second units that to me is necessary adding to the Housing Stock when it dbes sold sold to two buyers and not inlaw units and keep vacant but the question for staff thank you very much the question for staff for Square Footage you know theres nothing in the interim controls that 19 said if it is not viable from the streets it didnt count. Correct and im assuming a tenth of the lot to solve the housing crisis controlling the dissension indication. Not a lot of projects the direction given was to have the design it is virtual Square Footage but the legislation will look that. If this was a times that we should ask clarifying questions none seize it im taking it by square feet and i dont support the project i will support it with a larger second unit and ill see what my fellow commissioners have to say. Sorry jump in were not exempting is one of the reasons it is the staff given the the location the sub telethon it is upgraded. I believe it is less felt i believe that so youre not going to get any disagreement from me but adding the Square Footage you time to create housing a sizeable second united. Commissioner antonini. Yeah. To the speaker that quoted an earlier project 22 to 24 hundred square feet yes, i did. A december sent singlefamily but by definition in the Real Estate Market you see Square Footage as marked on the rooms you still have that count in terms of real estate purposes like a 5 is a couple of bedrooms a living room a kitchen and dining room and junior has a modify small dining room in the same houses theyre often downstairs room even with baths not counted as part of sdeej e Square Footage you never count the garages or laundry rooms and or furnace room were treating apples to apples the existing housing is counting the garage but bring out the fingers those are huge houses and say that is what more than they should be is taking into account things not counted im talking about 22 to 24 hundred square feet im counting all the things you dont count as Square Footage so some of it is a matter of facts but the spirits of this thing is to try to make those alleges not have negative effects on the neighborhood i think youve done a good job 18 between one house and 6 feet between the other house one of the neighbors came out and talked about shadowing or loss of light from the childrens room by the third floor this is something we can address particularly this project is continued in the future and resdoindz might be possible to make some modifications bill the the truth of the matter a fourbedroom home could provide the same thing if possible shrunk to some decree i like that the way it is but maybe a few modifications a steep hill behind there a 42 feet slope that is built and that is difficult i understand the two adjacent houses were enlarged in 2008, and it is height is the same as one of them and lower than the other one the kind of thing that fits in nice youve seen the pictures not this huge house it over you know dominates the size of the other houses and it seems to fit pretty well i dont have any problem that Square Footage because of Square Footage and even the interim controls say we want to have a conditional use not you cant approve something with Square Footage but find out it is necessary and desirable it is creating a nice large singlefamily sized houses it would be nice it the units were bigger and the main house slightly smaller in terms of sized the only size eliminated would be you know not have negative effects on the light and air to the childrens rooms so generally im supportive but i would like to see ill see what my fellow commissioners have to say but i think that is a welldesigned project commissioner moore. I want to ask the Zoning Administrator to take us what is intend on the resolution of 5 61 and supervisor wiener interim legislative which is it not i dont on the supervisor gives us us tools to deny a project based on conditions that meets other parts the code that could you please engage in the issues and others considerations that summarize in this report because i dont think this commission has been authorized to do other than using the conditional use authorization to elevate the discussion in front of us i dont believe the lower grades increase no Square Footage as it meets the neighborhood guidelines and the rear yard exposure to other side, etc. Modifies except to bring it into a discussion. Supervisor wiener would did you that better than me but the issues the fact that projects would have otherwise been as of right the neighborhood notification subject to the sgrmdz if their increasing by 75 percent and not adding a units those come before you as conditional use authorization and the burden a higher for approval if something comes before you as conditional use the project is approval of approved as opposed again you have to make a finding to approve the project certainly there were two parts one was look at the overall size of the building and try to reduce those but give flexibility if youre adding a dwelling unit weve excuse for section 317 and an idea for how to better deal with the Affordable Housing concerns but mainly the conditional use authorization before this commission on that ground i agree a slightly better and slightly larger dwelling unit would be more in keeping with trying to bridge the gap between a very large home with the neighborhoods were not doing social engineering such as we want to we have to stick with the physicality of the building im concerned that the next door neighbor that had a model a few years ago is calling out he believes is potentially a discrepancy to the model building and those are two points by which ill create a pause to have those questions answers before i support the project the project does many things correct or shout out the right of the frame so done by so many other buildings in town but more muted color not to stick out this is a separate discussion im in principle not opposed to the projector id like to cage it to deliver a little bit more respect to the second unit as well as the for me to be more further examination on the height and typography commissioner hillis. Can i ask a couple of followup questions to mr. Pealing man, i agree with commissioner moores comments square foota is not. It is less impactful i commends you it is a lot different mann than the project on state ord but i think it could use some modifications but walk through the change youre proposing to make that second floor or the third floor above the garage a studio and eliminate that backroom to eliminate that media room in here. The original proposal that room required mechanical ventilation so we decided that to take care of Square Footage thats the most expensive Square Footage were digging into the hill that was one way to eliminate a certain amount of Square Footage. If you made those changes do we have those changes. 43 again 4 hundred plus in the garage. How much is the studio. The studio is 4 hundred and 90. And then what are the rules as far as cu do you fall under the cu if you add the unit. In the garage pushes us over if i took out the garage it and the garage will be factored into the overall Square Footage with the addition of the units that will be in expose of an increase ever more than 100 percent so the conditional use requirement is required. In excess the bigger main haul. The total Square Footage the building in excess of 3 plus hundred square feet. I want to responds to one thing that 0 commissioner moore said we had a survey it identified the point of the houses on either side those are factored into all the work we did not correct at the beginning we came back and got a survey with the participate and the heights the solar panels and the heights of the house on 3638 on the opposite side to align based on the survey i dont know that it is inaccurate. Youre speaking to me the gap in communication with the person that presented the point i im picking up. The problem is shadowing you cant create a building in San Francisco without shadowing we have 18 feet you away which so so for respond the residential guidelines i thought wisp doing something to address that i dont how to not throw shadows. I personally didnt believe if you have a difference in interpretation of heetsz bans him doing his renovation two years ago and a level of discussions ill expect do have with you and you have documents by which youre designing a new home it has to be met not my discussion i was pointing out the discussion here. My overall take when i saw this 3 e 4 hundred 57 square feet you designed it in a way that is getting there i like the addition of the other units and would like to see that flushed out a little bit more i share commissioner richards concern of the other units maybe not the size but it remains as another unit that maybe adrc a second door to the entry to see two carriers i worry about that blows that out as part of the unit that may be different if you saw the two doors that go into a inlaw unit goes upstairs to the inlaw unit unit the top story can be to accommodate some of the neighbors with those changes i could are supportive of the project ill see what my fellow commissioners have to say. Commissioner richards. I move to continue the project for exploration for increasing the size through variance or some other way a great design as well as whatever else feedback to make sure that the neighbors understand the calculations for what are true and correct and incurring i move to continue. Second and the date is march third. March third is the next available hearing. Commissioner antonini. Oh, i thanks im in favor of that i would like to see the following thick explore mr. Pearlman youre original plans are the existing plans the second floor above the garage and a media room that will pushed back further and eliminated that the now front room both a studio so not impossible to push further back i know you exclaimed about the lighting with the backroom but, possible gage additional Square Footage to provide ventilation in there you know agency you said with the media room or find some kind of a lightwell a suggestion and the other thing i want to see is just resolve as much as possible the third floor rear extension may cast a shadow 18 feet from the neighbor that is complaining about the challenges bedroom but some things like shaving a corner that might minimize that shadow and the third thing to try to get around agreement to what shadows might be cast on the solar panels i know you said youd pay those are the 3 issues id like to see those things resolved before the 3rd of march and whatever else the commissioners may have. Thank you. Commissioner moore im arguing request commissioner antonini summarizing technically speaking the Building Application on which the neighborhoods project to the north matches exactly the grade and site of typography were indeed sure your autograph talked to each other and to comment to mr. Perry that the drawings changes or whatever last minute changes are submitted in hardcopy because there is a large drawings there were restrictions i looked at them on the web im comfortable with what i saw it is indeed in keeping with the tradition of the commission and commissioner johnson all thanks very much i echo i appreciate having the them in print format i get them and download them and perceptive over the course of week is there a second door i dont know that. A quick question for mr. Washington can i may not be here on the march third hearing i know that is a cu it is a higher level of Decision Making authorities and then the dr but what this have been considered a demolition a lot of things happening here. Dennis devlin southwest team not considered demolition. Thats interesting had we not seen this as conditional use because the interim controls and their were you not discretionary review authorization filed. This is a standard notification if one of the neighbors filed a discretionary review authorization before. No doubt people in the room would have filed that wouldnt have seen especially not filed but this channeling georgia actually this strikes me from the plans that were presented even from the 3d schematics it is interesting to note commissioner richards is this a demolition or not and supervisor avalos had us comment on conditional use for dwelling units we gave a way to look at the demolition and one of the ways that was mentioned go drastic increase in size indeed this would recent come before us a year from now or 317 as written. Weve started that and reinforcing training great. Commission there is a motion and a second to continue the item to march third. Commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner moore commissioner richards commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes that that motion carries unanimously 6 to zero. Commission will. Regularly for San FranciscoPlanning Commission commissioners, we left off on items on our discretionary review authorization calendar item 17 ab Record Number 2015 plus at 10y street r are for a discretionary reviews and two public initiated request for discretionary review authorization and good evening commissioner president fong the request before you a discretionary reviews of two system from with approximately 13 hundred must square feet with story over basement about approximately 3 thousand plus square feet in the glen park and frontage with age afternoon feet of one and 9 feet a substantial down slope wi