Against the miners, she is against the police. Believe me. You know it and i know it and guess what. She knows it. Those peddling the narrative of cops as a racist force in our society, a narrative supported with a nod by my opponent, shared directly in the responsibility for the unrest in milwaukee and many other places within our country. [ cheering and applause ] they have fostered the dangerous antipolice atmosphere in america and all throughout america. Just in that short excerpt were playing for you, i have three explosive charges from trump saying his opponent Hillary Clinton is antipolice. He didnt give evidence for that, saying that she, quote, nodded toward racist depictions of police. A very specific charge. And then thirdly, perhaps the most charged given the violence and unrest, he said she was in effect in directindirectly or p responsible for that violence. Were going to show you the appeal donald trump made to africanamericans if we have any of that sound. The Democratic Party has taken the votes of africanamericans for granted. Theyve just assumed theyll get your support and done nothing in return for it. Theyve taken advantage of the africanamerican citizen. Its time to give the democrats some competition for these votes, and it is time to rebuild the inner cities of america and to reject the failed leadership of a rigged political system. That was the argument from donald trump. As you may have heard just moments ago on Lawrence Odonnells show, he was making that argument in west bend. Now that is significant here because it was billed as this certain type of speech. An interesting choice to be clear for a speech that was directly bringing up race. One political reporter already pointed this out online. According to the census bureau, west bend, wisconsin, is 95 white. I want to get to our panel here. Mark thompson, liz smith, and katy packard. Thank you so everyone. Mark, ill start with you. Your thoughts on this address. I know you watched the entire thing for us here in the newsroom and particularly on the geography, at times donald trump made it sound that he was addressing the inner city, that he was addressing black voters. Theres a big difference between west bend and milwaukee. You dont even get away with saying youre in harlem if youre in the Upper West Side around here and thats a lot less than 40 miles. Youre absolutely right. Thank you for having me, ari. West bend is an hour from milwaukee. If he was concerned about the Africanamerican Community, he should have gone into the Africanamerican Community and heard some of the concerns about what was going on. It sounded as if david clark wrote his speech because hes been saying that on hannity and fox business and elsewhere. Same old cliches. Its the same cliche weve always heard. The Democratic Party takes africanamericans for granted. The Democratic Party hasnt done anything for africanamericans. But what has the Republican Party done . To use the term looters as a generalization, to talk about hating the police, to call people in general violent, thats not speaking out to africanamericans. He had a chance to do that. I was in cincinnati. He was invited to come speak at the Naacp Convention in close proximity to cleveland and he wont go. My feelings are hurt. I mean, this is a guy whose wealth was built on his fathers discriminatory rental practices. Thats right. Has he ever even made a building with housing for working people with Affordable Housing . Has he done anything on that level to help improve lives, because thats part of what goes on in communities where there are these kind of incidents with police and theres poverty. It is not just police hating and drugs. He just loved africanamericans together and just painted this Chocolate City version of hell. And you raise an important point, both of you, which is he speaking to africanamerican voters in theory, because not obviously in practice based on the data in the region, or is he talking about africanamerican to appeal to different voters, which is a political question for you, liz. I want to play him discussing that in the context of saying Hillary Clinton picks the wrong sides in these battles. Take a listen. My opponent, hillary, would rather protect the offender than the victim. Big problem in our society. Hillary clinton backed policies are responsible for the problems in the inner cities today and a vote for her is a vote for another generation of poverty, high crime, and lost opportunities. I care too much about my country to let this happen. That kind of rhetoric we know is fairly effective in a small voter turnout republican primary because it is gospel that Hillary Clinton is to blame for a whole host of things. With this as a general election strategy, looking to you as someone who has run democratic campaigns, does this work the same way to a general election audience . No, i dont think it does. What i think that rhetoric showed is i would love to see donald trump go and speak directly to the black community. I dont think he ever will. His rhetoric tonight made me very glad he didnt go to the city of milwaukee, which is facing a lot, which is sort of a microcosm for a lot of the unrest were facing. The last thing we need is him going out there and stoke these divisions and saying somehow democrats are antiLaw Enforcement and somehow pit communities of color against the Law Enforcement community. What we need are voices of calm, voices like president obamas. President obama is out there saying, you know what . Black lives matter. We also need to respect Law Enforcement and the hard job they have to do, and we have to figure out ways to reform policing to bring our communities together. You know what . Donald trump didnt talk about one reform he would make to improve policing. The ferguson report came out with very comprehensive reforms that, oh, i think only nine out of 17,000 Police Districts i think you raise an important point. Theres a rich discussion around policing. Not all the issues are automatically ideological or partisan. He did say he wanted to support more police officers. Unless you want to do the cops program, which was started under president clinton in 1994, youre not going to have a lot of federal funding. If you do, that is still federal tax dollars. Congress says leave that to the states. Katy, i want to bring you in and throw onre piece of data at you. Among africanamericans in the poll, Hillary Clinton 91 , donald trump 1 , katy. Well, you know, this is a perfect example of a donald trump speech that is very light on policy and very heavy on Bumper Sticker slogans. He had a great opportunity last week to go to my hometown of detroit, michigan, and have a very substantive conversation about the plight of the inner city in this country and to look at the things that are starting to work in a city like that. Without a doubt, there is a lot to criticize about democrat policies and Democratic Leaders who have failed the inner city and the Africanamerican Community, but donald trump speaking about it in Bumper Sticker slogans without offering policy, what hes going to do to change life for the Africanamerican Community or for the inner City Residents of this country, just isnt the answer. I dont think the africanamerican voters he seemed to be trying to target are buying it. I agree. I dont think that hes making any appeal. He definitely didnt make an appeal tonight. It was a little bit schizophrenic and paradoxical to be in that environment and talk about assaults on police and talk about crime and blame it on the Democratic Party and the Africanamerican Community and Hillary Clinton and everybody and then say i want the africanamerican vote. Coming from where . Based on what . I agree with you. He showed absolutely no evidence at all of even being interested. It was almost like watching a drunk phone call. Thats what it is like when you see him. Sometimes when hes on the teleprompter and it is more constructed, it is like a drunk call. On the politics of it, they did want to say this was a big special address. Aides said hes going on prompter, which is their way of saying hes got something to say, but this was really a stump speech sprinkled with a little extra law and order drama. Totally agree. It was a bad copy and paste job of all his previous prompter speechers. Which is better than plagiarism. Lets look at Donald Trumps policies and lets look at how they would help the Africanamerican Community. You know what his economic policies are . Giving huge tax breaks to corporations and millionaires and billionaires via repealing the estate tax. You know what he feels about voter id . He supports voter id, Voter Suppression, efforts that are aimed primarily at suppressing the black vote. Im no defender of donald trump, but to say he supports suppressing the black vote is a little bit of overreach. The Republican Party does support voter identification. Thats not the same as suppression. Yes, it is. Ill disagree with you. The Supreme Court has just thrown out a lot of the republicans voting id ideas. That doesnt make it suppression. Yeah, it does. They pretty much called it that. Its a modern day poll tax. It is. It is meant to suppress the votes of black voters, latino voters, college students, women voters. The elderly. You can go down the list and you can call it voter id, but lets be real. It is a Voter Suppression tactic. Let me ask you, katy, what else would you want to hear from the rest of the Republican Party. Because im old enough to remember a time, three to four weeks ago, where donald trump would give a speech and there would be some attempt to respond or echo it. We see it a lot in politics and surrogate. I dont know if it is just me, but lately it seems like he did the Foreign PolicyNational Security speech yesterday. He did this tonight. Were not hearing from any republicans other than his inner buddy circle of Chris Christie and rudy. Is that right . Well, i think people are just tired. Theyre tired of having to go out and defend what sounds like nonsense half the time. I dont blame that. Thats why i dont support donald trump, so i dont have to go out and defend that. Im tired, katy, but we have 45 minutes left in this live show. Keep going. If you want to look at somebody who has substantive policy that theyre proposing, real things that hes proposing that would be done for the inner cities of this country, paul ryan has a great agenda. I would be happy to see donald trump plagiarize some of the things paul ryan has said. I dont think donald trump is serious about proposing real substantive policy change. He just wants to sputter these Bumper Sticker slogans that dont have any substance behind them. That may Say Something about the state of the race when your best hope is that paul ryan could sock puppet donald trump at some later date. The whole panel stays and we have more to talk about. We have a little bit more from the law and order speech today with donald trump saying hes not going to pivot. We have new numbers showing problems in the senate. Also, we have a video of mike pence doing the best he can do. Roger ailes advising donald trump on those big debates. New york times says it is on. 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Many republicans arent with trump and that is starting to make some things awkward, even for his running mate. This is what happened to mike pence, his running mate, in new mexico earlier this evening. Our republican governor refuses to endorse you or mr. Trump in this election, and she is one of many republicans that are deserting. Why the unprecedented number of people who are deserting you and mr. Trump in your own party . Yeah, let me say Susana Martinez is a great friend of mine. Shes a great governor. Shes done a great job for new mexic mexico. It is no fun when it goes down like that. Youre all here. We always say all the panels are great. Its not true. Sometimes we lie. This is a truly great panel. Smart, funny. Oh, come on. Youre also my most recent panel. You look at the tension, right . You can feel it. We played that clip for not what was said, but for what wasnt said, which is pence is i feel for him. Hes in there. Hes trying to bring it together. He wants to respect the person who asked the question. He wants to respect the popular governor. This is a hard spot for mike pence, and he is looking out for a career that could last longer than Donald Trumps career as a republican potentially. Thats exactly right, ari. Thats what makes it so hard. Hes constantly twisting himself into a pretzel. He knew this challenge was going to be there. Theres nothing thats changed since when mike pence took the position of running as vp to today, so he was walking into it. He knew he had a tough job to do. I think the trump folks were hoping hed be able to give more to the ticket, maybe even it out more. But again, donald trump with what hes done in the last three weeks has made it almost impossible for governor pence to do what his job. Katy, speak to the politics of that because the running mates do matter. Susan is basically saying, look, if you get asked to go open for kanye west and go on that tour, you know whats going to happen on that tour. Theres going to be excitement, but also tough days. Is that right and did mike pence make the right bet here . A vp candidate brings you two things. Trouble and their home state. In this case, were not everyn e sure hes going to deliver indiana for donald trump. The truth is i think it is very clear this was a pick that donald trump made to get him through the convention. He picked a very conservative candidate, somebody that those on the Convention Floor would embrace and celebrate. It would comfort them to feel like he was going to, you know, sort of act like a republican come fall. Trump has largely sort of forgotten mike pence since the convention and has kind of moved on. Mike pence has made a bed he has to lie in. I think hes doing the best job he can under the circumstances, but i dont think this was a great choice for mike pence. It all sounds like it is so much under duress. Marco rubio from the primaries was recently pressed on squaring the statements hes made about trumps competence and his honesty with supporting him. Take a listen to this, mark. Okay. Look, i told you guys. I have stood by everything ive ever said in my campaign. That said, were in a different place now. Now we have a binary choice. There are two people in the world that are going to be the next president , either donald or hillary. What i wonder is whether trump could have done a better job trying to bring some of these people in so it wasnt just so raw. You think . I think he sabotaged himself throughout the whole primary process. He ran everybody down, made jokes about everybody. I agree with what you said about pence, too, susan. I think thats why he made the choice. I think it was a very practical choice to make. Hell get some more publicity out of it and more name recognition, but trump has forgotten about him. He is going to overshadow whoever he has a running mate. He seems to be kind of man alone on an island, a very bad standup, not getting any kind of responses. The democratic nominee, Hillary Clinton, is