the crisis. president obama is still in texas, and again, there's no visit planned to the border. one of the facilities housing the children. last night after meeting with texas governor rick perry, the president insisted a visit there, a mere photo op, will not solve anything. >> there's nothing that is taking place down there that i am not intimately aware of and briefed on. this isn't theater. this is a problem. i'm not interested in photo ops. i'm interested in solving a problem. >> but there's this flashback photo on the border. the president using el paso as a backdrop in 2011 to announce his pre-re-election push for comprehensive immigration reform. interesting. let's go back to the hill. the emergency aid package will cost $3.7 billion. that's nearly twice as much as the initial estimate. the white house was talking about just last week. critics wonder why it was $2 billion then and nearly $4 billion now. all of this reflects something else. competency and the polls show more than half of those asked think the administration is snot doing so well there. >> this is a problem of the president's own making. he's been president for five and a half years. when is he going to take responsibility for something? >> the president departs austin for the white house in just a few minutes. nbc news senior white house correspondent chris jansing has been along for the entire trip. the president talked for the better part of an hour about jobs and thechy. not the battle over the borders though. >> no, he didn't mention it until 34 minutes into the speech. then it was a lot of what we have heard before. that was what was expected. the white house sticking to script that this is a trip about the economy as well as the number of fund-raising stops. but of course it was yesterday, last night, the attention was focused on that meeting with texas governor rick perry and about ten local and religious leaders. if there's a common theme by the president about what he said today about the economy and what he has said throughout this trip about the border crisis and immigration, it's congress. pointing the finger at congress. and in fact, telling governor perry, bring your republican friends onboard. he said he's willing to consider what both john boehner and rick perry have asked for, which is national guard at the border. but he wants that $3.7 billion voted on. he wants them to look at that. look at that appropriation. getting a lot of pushback on the senate floor yesterday. it's going to be interesting to see how that senate hearing today which is just getting under way goes, but the president, again, saying that if congress had done what it was supposed to do, if they had addressed comprehensive immigration, we wouldn't be in this situation now. even as we speak, the president making one final stop before he heads to air force one. at a local barbecue joint. he's been doing this a lot, abbey. he has been on these trips that i have traveled on him with, just stopping in. he played pool and had a beer with the governor of colorado the other night. now he's staubing for barbecue, talking to regular americans saying he wants to stay in touch. he had lunch today with a university of texas student who had written him a letter. congress, he says, is out of touch, and it's about time that they moved on both comprehensive immigration reform and even before that, this emergency appropriation to deal with the crisis on the border. >> all right, chris jansing, safe travels home. and here with us now is frances wilkinson, a member of the bloomberg view editorial board and calls immigration president obama's midterm surprise. welcome to it table. you also say that the president is in big trouble by not acting ahead on this issue. and this is what you write. you say he will be lashed by anti-immigrant opponents and he'll be lashed by pro-immigrant friends as deporter in chief until he takes bold action. he's unlikely to be a popular guy anytime soon. to that i will say, we have seen so far in his presidency, this is just not in his nature to get ahead of the situation beforehand. he likes to let the dust settle to see where public opinion falls. that might work if you're a lawyer, but if you're commander in chief, you're in a bad situation. >> well, i think he's in a bad situation on this. that's partly why we have such a big proposal. i think he wants this to be a big problem. i think he wants it to be such a big problem right now that congress has to deal with it, and that the media is focused on it, and the american public is focused on it. i think he needs this border issue out of the way before he can deal with anything about deportations or easing the plight of immigrants who have been here for a long time. >> well, and to that point, there was much drama about whether or not the president would meet with rick perry, would there be a hand shake? no, we're not going to do just a handshake. we need a meeting. but i think the positioning that he came out of the meeting with was pretty smart, saelths saying rick perry is on board with taking action. now washington needs to get its act together, playing sort of the red state governors against the republicans in washington. is that going to work to help put pressure on congress? i i think he actually has some native allies in congress on this in the republican party. and he's talked about whether people want to solve the problem or people want to exploit the politics of it. if you look at the republican leadership in the house and senate, probably they want to exploit the politics of this, clear through november and beyond if they can. >> right. >> but the republican party has a very serious chunk of nativists in it that really do not want to have more immigrants coming over the border. >> and the president is proposing a lot of border security money here. >> he's appeasing them. they have an interest in seeing this stopped because they really care more about that than they care about beating up on the president, at least on this issue. >> there's also an expiration date on their current stupid talking point of the moment, which is go to the border, the border. he didn't, deal with it. he didn't go to the border. >> what now? >> we showed some of that sound of speaker boehner saying take responsibility. this is amazing coming from an individual who will not allow votes on the floor of the house to have whatever it might be, a republican proposal, a democratic proposal, the president put out a ploposal. let's have the votes and see what will happen. that's the ultimate abdication of his responsibility at speaker of the august institution. in your article, you quote a famous maxim from dwight eisenhower. if you can't solve a problem, enlarge it. don rumsfeld also liked to say that. what do you mean by that in this context for the president? >> he, first of l as i said, he needs to focus a lot of attention on that. frankly, that is part of the reason that we saw a surprise in the amount of money he's asking for. he almost doubled the amount of money, the white house itself had led people to expect was going to be asked for. i think he wanted a big splash. i think he wanted a big story and he needs a big story and a big splash in order to force a resolution of the border. he needs to get the border situation with the unaccompanied children out of the way or at least resolved to some degree, some stability there before he can turn to a lot of people who have been living in this country for a long time, and where the real pressure is from immigration activists which is stop the deportations. give people a break. like you did with deferred action for young people and students. >> of course, this issue is playing out differently because it's 2014, the midterms loom, it might be a little different. last year, next year, but right now, everybody is thinking about what's going to happen when voters go to the polls. too much leniency could rally republican voters. amnesty is sapowerful motivator for those folks. too little leniency could anger his tannpanics who democrats ne keep in their tent. one smart guy wrote if obama goes small, he disapoints his base. good he goes big, he launched in a long-term democratic advantage among hispanic voters, and this is from you, in effect risking a more miserable 2015, obama could gain a significantly less miserable one. interesting calculus. >> so he should go big? >> don't think he can go big until he's got some sort of stublth on the border with the kids. then, if i were him, i would seriously consider it because he's going to be miserable either way next year. he might as well be miserable where democrats having a long-term advantage. >> republicans aren't going to like what he does anyway. he has to make someone happy. >> if he wants to get that bill passed to get the money passed, he's got a long way to go and a lot to do to convince people. >> thanks for being here. up next, a new twist in the heartbreaking story out of georgia where the little boy was left in the car and died. we'll get the latest on that, and on that hack attack out of china targeting american workers' financial information, job history, and foreign contacts. and that's just the tip of the iceberg. there's a lots going on in the world today, and we'll get you up to speed at "the cycle" rolls on. it's thursday, july 10th. avo: waves don't care what age you are. take them on the way you always have. live healthy and take one a day men's 50+. a complete multivitamin with 7 antioxidants to support cell health. age? 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(soothing sound of a shower) with millions of reviews, tripadvisor makes any destination better. ithe part of us that a littwants to play,on. wants to be mischievous, wants to run free, all you have to do is let it out. find your inner minion only at the despicable me minion mayhem ride at universal studios hollywood. welcome back. ee stoin we continue to follow new develops in a bizarre child murder case that first appeared as a mistake. justin ross harris remains charged with intentionally killing his own son, a boy please than two years old by leaving him in a very hot car for at least seven hours. today, we're learning his wife has hired a defense attorney herself. she's not facing any charges yet, but police say both parents said they had searched the internet for how hot a car might need to be in order to kill a child. according to court testimony, harris messaged women and exchanged some kind of explicit tex ts while his son was dying inside of that car, him being involved. gabe has been on the story from the start. i do understand we did get some final word from the medical examiner on cooper's cause of death. >> hey, there. cobb county police have released the toxicology results. the tests have come back negative, meaning there was nothing unusual in cooper's blood, nothing to have suggested he had been poisoned. earlier, initial autopsy findings showed the cobb county examiner believes it was consistent with hypertherm yeah and they suggested the manner of death was homicide. in short, investigators say the new teszs that just came back confirm their belief that cooper's death was heat related. prosecutors say ross harris left his son to die on purpose on june 18th because he was unhappy in his marriage and he allegedly wanted a child-free life. harris has pleaded not guilty to murder and child cruelty charges and his attorney said this was all a tragic accident. that he forgot to drop off his son at day care that morning, but at a probable cause hearing, the lead detective alleged he had been sexting up with up to six women at that time. there had been questions raised about ross harris' wife because of what police testified her reactions were that day, but she's not been named as a suspect and she's not been charged with any crime. today, we learned she has retained a local attorney here, although he declined to comment. >> gabe, there's potentially a lot more to this story and this particular georgia case. but to broaden it out in connecticut, alone, there have been six reported incidents of children left in hot cars over just the past month, one resulting in a child's death. compare that to four total cases in the 24 years prior to that. are we seeing a huge rise in these cases nationwide, or are we just paying closer attention now to what is happening? >> we may be paying closer attention. we hear these stories every year, and this georgia case in particular has certainly been getting a lot of attention, but as you mention, the circumstances in this case are very different to what we have seen. but according to kids in cars.org, there were 44 kids who died inside hot cars last year. 16 so far this year. and on average, a child dies inside a hot car every nine days, according to that advocacy group. heat stroke is the second leading cause of nontraffic fatalities among children in the u.s. >> thanks for your reporting on this, a story that is understandably getting a lot of attention. we're going to turn now to a major hack attack targeting the united states government. u.s. officials say chinese hackers broke into personnel files in march, snooping on employees who had applied for top secret security clearances. they don't know however if china's government was behind that specific attack. secretary of state john kerry played down the impact of the breach, saying it didn't appear that any sensitive material had been compromised. still, this attack combined with the recent indictment of chinese army staff for stealing data from u.s. companies makes something very clear. the future of cyber war fair isn't on some distant horizon. it's here now. we go inside the code war. and matt is here. he edited the piece. how are you? >> good. thanks for having me. >> in this article, you talk about a company that basically searches out bugs and sells them and defenses to them. in an interesting way into a big international story. tell us about that company and what it conveys about this very rapidly changing industry. >> sure, so you know, we wanted it go into the marketplace behind cyber war, so we followed a company called exodus intelligence in austin, texas. they silt in a very plain room down there and try to find bugs in software like chrome, the internet browser, or windows. when they find a bug, they type it up, and then they sell it. they can either sell it to governments, they can sell it to law enforcement, they can sell it to a company that made the bug, and there's a huge market place for these software bugs. they're a commodity. >> in order to plug them. >> some people want to unplug them, some want to exploit it. it's a completely deregulated market. >> we also have governments using them. we all know about stuxnet. our government and iran's government aren't saying anything about that. we only know how many other instanceses of this being used for political warfare. >> stuxnet was the first true cyberweapon. it was the equivalent of the atom bomb. but this is something that companies, countries, and rogue actors are planning on doing more. >> well, and as ari was pointing out, you might think our government would want to find the bugs and want to plug them up so our software could be secure, so it couldn't be exploited, but they have an interest in finding the bugs and keeping them there so they can exploit them themselves. you have a quote from ceo of a security firm called immunity. he says you have a tendency to say let's fix all the problems, but all that does is completely defang the nsa and leave all the power in the hands of our opponents. they want to keep the bugs out there to a certain extent so the u.s. government can use them. >> the more you talk to cyber security experts, the more you realize there's no such thing. and the further we go, the more we have to deal with how do we deal with this problem? and there's people who say you know, the government should regulate and fix all the bugs and people who say this is essentially, you know, an asset for us. >> which would be impossible for them to fix all the bugs. >> like baling the ocean. no way to do it. >> i find the folks behind the hacking to be fascinating. it takes a special person to get into this. you highlight some of them in the piece. one aaron portnoy who started hacking in high school and now he makes a whole lot of money doing it professionally. he's not the computer nerd who is often portrayed in hollywood. is there a type that gets into this? >> it runs the gamut. he is nothing like matthew brodrick in war games. he's a normal guy. he makes eye contact. >> he makes eye contact. >> he's not an uber nerd. of course, we have army units in china doing this, there are probably people in our government who are doing this. it's really a wide range. >> you'll never know. maybe that's why it's so scary. >> the article also mentioned 231 cyber offensives by the u.s., according to some of the snowden leaks. pretty interesting number, and that's just the floor of it. >> and the ibm put out a report recently that said the average company, the average private american company fielded over 16,000 attacks. >> jesus. >> yeah. >> so if you're watching at home, change your password. >> ten more times. >> thank you very much. from "time," appreciate it. up next, another bitter battle zone. the emmy nominations are out. did you favorite make the cut? 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