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>> it's the playground of snow, and gold. and she was at its heart. beautiful, privileged. magnetic. >> whether it was a taxi driver or her movie star friends. she had a very genuine connection with people. >> but what happened one night in her secluded chalet sent shivers through this glamorous ski town. >> oh my god. no. >> i was going into shock. hyperventilating. >> murdered in her sleep. >> it was a crime of rage. >> where would investigators start? an ex-boyfriend? >> there were some stories about a jilted lover. >> her new tenants? >> they were a couple that had been pushed over the edge. >> her old friend? >> i just remember the hair. >> there is no way that she saw what she said she saw. >> the real killer would stun them all. >> took my world and just flip it upside down. >> we were all wrong! everybody was wrong in this case. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> [inaudible] oh my god. >> a cold night. february 2014. 9-1-1 colors can also be hysterical. this one was all but in comprehensible. >> i thought my's friend in the closet. she is dead. >> but then, the sort of thing does not happen to people like the one now lying dead in the closet. >> she is dead! [inaudible] >> and certainly not in this zip code. >> you don't see many homicides here. >> but there are moments where no person is safe. no person. not this storied victim. not her securely pampered chalet in the snow. >> there are no words for it. when a childhood friend dies. >> yes, and nancy? life of the party. confident of bellhops and billionaires. who would want to harm her? and why? aspen, colorado. the tiny municipal airport here tells a story. in the long line of private jets parked and waiting for their well heeled owners to come down from the mountainside chalets. their beginner castles. as the late nancy used to call it. half playfully, of course. these were her friends. as where the passing tourists and ski bums. and bus boys. and just about everybody. mary met nancy when they were both teenagers. >> you cannot come to this town without meeting nancy. >> come on really? >> everybody met her at one point or another. i have never known another person like her. as joyful and a outsized personality and all of that that she was. she had a very deep and soulful connection to the world. >> some special sauce in nancy. and when she smiled? >>there were just pure radiance. >> it was just pure radiance, it was just beaming. >> billy was closer to nancy than anybody. almost like a brother. >> it was like she had a secret and she wanted to share it with you. and that secret was let's all lighten up and have fun and enjoy life and be grateful. >> nancy had reason to be grateful. she was born into a legendary aspen family led by local royalty. her father made a fortune when he turned his ranch into the ski resort. and her mother betty? was a world war ii pilot who in later years flew a helicopter. parked it in her driveway. and nancy? stories about nancy would fill a book. like the one about how she met jack nicholson. >> a convertible pulled up and asked them directly questions. and nancy said i will take you there. but i want to ride in that nice car of yours. and next thing you know, she and jack are best friends. >> nancy could and did live anyway that she wanted. out loud! >> many many times, when i thought we were gonna have a normal day. she would say let's go to saint barts. or let's go to hawaii. or let's go somewhere. and i would go okay. >> but, her relationship with the impulsive and gregarious nancy came with a price. her business and your stuff was her stuff. sometimes she expected her friends to give her the stuff that she wanted. >> it was quite a job to love nancy. >> so, after what happened to her. flies on a carcass. the tabloids feasted on the gossip and half truths that flew around town. she was a spoiled, wild child. jack nicholson's party girl. hunter s. thompson's drinking buddy. an incurable flirt. once engaged to michael douglas. all very breathless. the stories about the quote, aspen socialite. and insulting, said her friends. it didn't paint her character accurately at all. some people collect famous people as friends. and it's important to them to be able to talk about them. >> definitely not her. >> no? >> she had a lot of famous friends. she had a lot of friends who were not famous. she treated everyone the same way. she had a very genuine connection with people. >> she didn't have the entitlements that made a snooty little rich kid. she had the entitlement that every day of life was precious. and should be live to the fullest. >> nancy was a traveling philanthropist. a devoted environmentalist. she had a daughter too, julianna. born when nancy was 29. and sometimes she took her on the way with her when she traveled. but sometimes she didn't. >> nancy had a lot of very close friends and people who loved julianna, and we all raised our children together. >> unusual? certainly. but -- >> she just truly deeply love julianna and did feel that this was her greatest role of her life. was to be a mother. >> the thing is, nancy trusted people. even with the care of her own daughter. with her house, with her money. like the teller that she happened to meet in the local bank. >> she loved people, all kinds. it didn't matter who you were. >> kathy carpenter was that teller. and one day in 2013, out of the blue, nancy asked her to lunch. kathy accepted. and learned firsthand another of nancy's hallmark traits. >> she was sometimes brutally honest. >> no edit button? >> no edit button. i like that. yes. no edit button. she actually when i first met her told me that i was very fat. >> what a thing to say to somebody when you first meet them! hi, be my friend, your fat! >> yeah. your beautiful but your fat! >> so, she was blunt. undiplomatic. but, irresistible. by the time lunch was over, nancy and kathy were fast friends. that's how nancy was. like when she made plans to leave town for the winter. she decided to rent her house to a retired doctor and his horticulturalist wife. total strangers. who she befriended in a heartbeat. actually invited them to move in a month early. so she and dr. trey and his wife, who also happen to be named nancy. they all live together like roommates. >> she said i'm going to take you under my wing, and have you meet all my friends. and i know a lot of people around here. >> but now, in february 2014. at just 57. nancy was gone. murdered! apparently in her own bed. while the grief was still very fresh, much of aspen crowded into the storied, hotel drone. for our memorial, that was more like a goodbye party. >>however she died, we need to celebrate her life. that's what she would've wanted. because her life was a celebration. >> except one person. notably absent from the overflow crowd in the jerome wasn't celebrating. but certainly could hear the music and laughter that burst out of the hotel windows that night and drifted down the street. , and into a particular cell. in the county jail. >> coming up! >> when i open that door. that odor was so overwhelmingly. it hit me in the face. i looked down. >> what had happened to nancy? the awful discovery that launch this aspen mystery. >> oh my god! no! >> that house has this story to tell. are we going to be able to figure out what that story is? >> when dateline continues! 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>> it was wonderful. fun. she shared a lot of her video clips that she took on her trip. >> did you say over the weekend? >> i did. she asked me if i would say with her. so i did. >> on monday morning, february 24th, kathy got up early and left for work. leaving nancy and her dog at the house. knowing that he would need peace and quiet to get over her jet lag. she put a note in the front door. asking would-be visitors to leave nancy alone. >> she did not want to be disturbed. she never wanted to be disturbed when she slept. you do not call her, you do not wake her. she always slept with her earplugs and her eye mask. everything shut. close the door. and do not disturb! >> billy also left nancy alone. but felt much better knowing she was home. >> i worried about her constantly when she was away from aspen. but when she returned to aspen, i did not worry about her. i would relax. i sent her an email and there was a photo of my four-year-old son. to aunt nancy, we're so glad your home. because when your home, we don't worry about you. everything is good. >> but billy did not hear back. not a word. and then on wednesday, the people who had been renting nancy's house called kathy. they moved out quickly on nancy's return. had been going back and forth to the house all week clearing out the last of their stuff. and they found it odd that they had not seen nancy. not once. >> so, this is monday, tuesday, and then wednesday. and you still haven't seen her? >> still had not seen her. >> but they did see nancy's dog, gabe. >> and then i went and called kathy. and said this dog has been alone for two days and it is clear that she has not been back. >> i was concerned because normally that is not nancy's behavior, she would call me and asked me to pick the dog up. >> so after work kathy drove up to nancy's place in the mountain to check on her friend. >> what was it like when you went inside the house? >> i called her name out and gabe was there and was happy to see me. >> but nancy wasn't there. kathy checked her bedroom. >> stuff that was there that i had unpacked. it was clear, cleaned up. and when i turned, went to the closet. it was locked. >> was it usually locked? >> no. not with nancy home. >> kathy knew that when nancy rented her house, she kept her personal belongings locked in a closet in the master bedroom. but she and kathy had unlocked it when she got home. >> at that point i was just, not feeling well. something was not right. >> kathy, who often house sat for nancy had a spare key. but it was back at her house. so she went home, got the key, returned. open the closet door. >> when i open that door. that order was so overwhelming. it hit me in the face. and i looked down and, i could see the shape. >> a shape hidden under a pile of blankets and covers. but with one glimpse, kathy just knew, she said. it was nancy. >> hard to get that image out of your mind? >> it is. >> stuck there? >> it is. >> kathy fled the house, got into her car, called 9-1-1. >> oh my god! no! >> it's pretty desolate up there. so i jumped in a car and i thought, i will just drive up the hill. get to the police. >> her hysterics made it very hard for the dispatcher to comprehend exactly what was going on. >> can you get near your friend? >> no. no, i can't. >> then finally, understanding. the dispatcher told kathy to pull over. wait for the first responders. >> i want you to pull over and put your flashers on. >> okay. >> when the police arrived, they, i stepped out of the vehicle. i was going into shock. hyperventilating. >> dash cam video shows a distraught kathy as she was taken to the hospital. then sheriff's deputies arrived on buttermilk mountain. to look in that room. and confront the mystery. >> that house, and the room in particular has the story to tell. and are we going to be able to figure out what that story is? >> coming up! >> she had to die from blunt force trauma to the head. and it seems that she had several. >> any defensive wounds? >> no. >> so it appeared to come out of the blue for her? >> yes. it did appear to be a premeditated crime that occurred while she was sleeping. >> more than one suspect. and maybe more than one killer. >> hard to do that alone? >> it is awkward. in a difficult to move a body. >> when dateline continues! it's time to make a stand. ♪and i'm feelin' good.♪ start a new day with trelegy. no once-daily copd... ...medicine has the power to treat copd... ...in as many ways as trelegy. with three medicines in one inhaler,... ...trelegy makes breathing easier for a full 24 hours, improves lung function, and helps prevent future flare-ups. trelegy won't replace a rescue inhaler... ...for sudden breathing problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. do not take trelegy more than prescribed. trelegy may increase your risk of thrush, pneumonia, and osteoporosis. call your doctor if worsened breathing, chest pain, mouth or tongue swelling, problems urinating,... ...vision changes, or eye pain occur. take a stand, and start a new day with trelegy. ask your doctor about once-daily trelegy... ...and save at trelegy.com. ♪ oh what a good time we will have ♪ ♪ you can make it happen ♪ ♪ yeah oh ♪ now, try new dietary supplements from voltaren for healthy joints. >> lisa miller, then the da's now, try new dietary supplements from voltaren [music playing] lisa miller, then the da's investigator for the county that includes aspen, is a tall, rangy woman investigator for the county that includes aspirin, is a tall grange a woman with an impish grin that looks like she's hiding a secret. the investigator was and in an arm failure in from -- murder in aspen? it just does not happen. or hadn't at least and more than a decade. >> i was a little surprised that we had a murder in aspen. >> and called to a person's home like nancy fister especially so. >> correct. >> and yet here she was, in nancy's living room looking at the window. >> the juxtaposition of looking at that house and taking a look at the beautiful scenery. and then knowing an act of terrible violence that occurred in the highway. >> in the bedroom she found surprisingly little evidence of it. >> there was a small blood smear on the head board. there was a couple of small droplets of blood on the carpet, and a little bit of a spatter on the wall. >> and the body in the closet? well. when first responders opened the door. >> they knew they were looking for a body and they opened the door and they look inside, and they immediately recognize the body. you just looked down and you saw white coverings. >> and underneath those coverings? >> what nancy had been bound with an extension cord. she had multiple plastic bags over her head that had been bound and secured tightly. and then another large one of the tear-resistant darker colored bags in her body as well. >> with it all over her body. they clearly saw that the killer had gone through a lot of trouble to hide what he or she had done. but there was no hiding now. >> when the crime scene personnel started taking a look they flip the mattress and found blood on the bottom part of the mattress. >> so it was clear, nancy was killed on the bed drag to the closet, stash their, wrapped up by money. and whoever did it took the extra trouble to flip the mattress in an effort to hide the silk in blood. and ryan was a desperate district attorney who started working on the case the night the body was found. >> we know that she had to die from blunt force trauma to the head. several blows to the head. >> any defensive wounds? >> no. so >> it appeared to come out of the blue for her? >> it did appear to be yes, a premeditated crime that occurred while she was sleeping. >> it looked like it had happened monday morning. and then the body in the closet undiscovered until wednesday evening. the investigators then can compiling a list of suspects. a long list. >> none of us really lived like nancy. so open. i mean she was totally open to strangers. >> that openness made nancy friends wherever she went. but when nancy open herself up, people didn't always like what came out. >> say whatever she thought. >> say what she thought. >> did she realize that maybe she was neck and negative impression when she did that? >> well. she definitely has people of. there was no doubt about that. many times i could just see peoples steam coming out of their ears. and they're thinking, nobody's ever talk to me like that. but her thinking was, someone should have a long time ago. >> no question that she rubbed some people the wrong way. spoke her mind a bit too often, maybe. treated friends a little like her personal servants, sometimes. like kathy for example. >> did she treat you more like a friend? or like she was a boss? >> friends, and it's depending on the day. and someday, she would boss me around. and i would express how i felt. and she always apologized. >> and her friends, forgave. because they loved nancy for who she was. and investigators now had to figure out if someone in nancy 's life had stopped loving her. or if she had simply opened herself up to the wrong person. >> we're working diligently at that point to follow up on others that were coming in. >> like? >> the leads of other people in the community that may have had some resentment towards nancy. >> like perhaps a jilted lover. one of them may have harbored some hidden rage. her friends knew that the irreplaceable nancy was also a woman who fell in and out of love. often. >> usually nancy is having affairs, or romances. they didn't last a long time. because there were some stories about a jilted lover somewhere. somebody i didn't know. so when i heard that, i was like, there's crazy people out there. let's follow it up. because you never know. it could be, you know. >> but now. no actual jilted lovers and nancy's past. just rumor, and unfounded innuendo. and besides. after taking in the bedroom crime scene. investigators decided that they were not looking for a killer. >> hard to do that alone. carry a body around like that? flip a queen size mattress? >> the mattress is doable. but it would be awkward for a single person to flip the mattress on their own. and, they use the term deadweight for a reason. it is awkward. and difficult to move a body. >> but it seemed like a pretty clear indication of more than one person? >> yes. that was our conclusion. >> something else. since there was no sign of forced entry, her killer, or killers, as they now believed, must have had a husky. now, who might that be? coming up! >> the new renters. the doctor and his wife. >> it just seemed perfect. >> she really like these people. they had really great karma. >> what did they see? when dateline continues! and food residue. that's why dawn is trusted to save wildlife affected by oil. dawn platinum cleans to the squeak. 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nancy's house that is people. , with a key. for example, the couple who had been renting the place while nancy was in australia. doctor william traits tyler and his wife, also named nancy, where hardly likely suspect they had to start somewhere. >> the they were an anesthesiologist, and she was an intelligent woman herself. >> trey and nancy met in the anesthesiology department of the denver hospital. he resident, she an instructor. >> i saw him go up to a woman on a gurney and say, well i'm doctor styler. i'll take care of you, as i've taken care of my mother. and i love my mother. >> the gentle doctor was in the anesthesia department by the time of they'd retired. they lived in upscale of denver. the hobby was growing the cast inducing victorian water lily. the and usual success of that was skill. but in the rarefied world of specialized botany. >> in fact, the two of you kind of lived a charming distance for quite awhile. >> yes, 25 years of quite a life that i said i would never trade with anyone. >> but right around the year 2000, it all began to fall apart. trey got sick and had to quit practicing medicine. his attempt to start a medical support business failed. he sued his medical group, and lost. he sued the lawyer who took his life savings but got nothing. he had to sell his house, he moved with nancy into a rental. whether they were poisoned, said, nancy and very natalie fatally. by carbon monoxide. again, they tried to sue. puck to brooke to hire an attorney. >> and he was beside himself. suicidal. just, you know, i can't believe what i did to the family. in losing all of this income. and i said, you know, we can do this. and so i thought of aspen. that we loved aspen. >> aspen, fresh mountain air. a fresh start. they could open a spa, they decided. and that's when nancy pick up the phone to answer another nancy's real estate ad in the local newspaper. nancy festers ad. >> she said oh, excuse me, i was just watering my greenhouse. i said, i would love to have a greenhouse. and so, we went up there and it just seemed perfect. >> seem perfect to nancy too. her share of the family fortune was doled out in regular by limited allowances and by renting her multi million dollar house. with a billion dollar view. she would have extra cash for her upcoming trip to australia. so, no formal lease, just a handshake. the rent was $4,000 a month. >> it was a lot of money but not for aspen. >> nancy asked her good friend kathy to help the renters take care of her dog while she was away. collect the rent, and be her general go-between. >> she said, i like these people. she said that they felt that they had really great karma. >> and that's part of the reason why she invited them to move in, a full month before she left. but it wasn't long before they discovered that living with nancy was not quite like they thought it might be. >> after the first couple of days, she treated me like a slave. like, get my cigarettes. get this. get my drink. and, i was not used to be so disrespected. >> treated you like a slave? >> a slave. it was. not pretty. >> you know, i said, that's how nancy is. don't take it personal. she comes off this way. and, she really has a good heart. >> anyway, nancy left soon allow for australia. but then, the sailors discovered the house wasn't so perfect afterwards. >> when i went to clean up the master bedroom and bathroom. i realize that the hot water was rusty. the dishwasher did not work. the snow did not work. >> once again, the styler's sought redress. they decided to withhold rent until those things were fixed. nancy, half a world away, was not happy. >> what did she say? >> that she felt that these people were cons. squatters. and she wanted them out. >> kathy was caught in the middle. she arranged the repairs. the styler paid the money that they owed. gave her $6,000 in cash, that she put in a safety deposit box for nancy. but the relationship between landlord in tenets? had soured to the point that no amount of money could preserve it. >> at that point, the styler said i do not want to stay. we will be out february 22nd. >> how did nancy feel about that? >> she was fine with it. she wanted them out. >> unable to find new tenants now, nancy was faced with doing exactly what she hoped to avoid when she went to australia. spending peak ski season in aspen. she got home february 27th. the very day that the sailor said they would be done moving their stuff out. the problem was? they were not. >> she was not happy. she had a few choice words but, she accepted it. she was tired, dred liked, she wanted to come home and see her dog. >> they ended up at a motel in -- a world away. they stopped around the house again, a few times, together things. saw the dog, but not nancy. and made the first alarming call to kathy that something seemed wrong. and when kathy found the body. knowing better than anyone about the tension between the stylus and nancy. she made sure to include investigators. >> she had some people living there and she really, she really pissed them off. and. um. she made threats to them about owing money. >> so time for investigators to visit the motel. and meet them. coming up! >> i said, i haven't done anything wrong. >> did nancy admit that she had said, i'd like to kill her? >> she made some statements that certainly could be consistent with that. >> from motel room, to interrogation room. investigators were fishing. >> you did this man. you did it. >> what would they catch? when dateline continues! you know that feeling of having to rewash dishes that didn't get clean? i don't. cascade platinum plus... with double the dawn grease fighting power and double the scrubbing power. for a no rewash clean... and a cabinet ready shine. upgrade to cascade platinum plus. dare to dish differently. to help prevent bleeding gums. try saying 'hello gumwash' with parodontax active gum health. it kills 99% plaque bacteria. and forms an antibacterial shield. try 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[music playing] basalt, colorado is just down the highway from aspen. you could see the same mountains, just down the highway from aspen. you can see the same, mountain breathe the same air. but when tray and nancy checked into the hotel, they are entering a world far beneath the rarefied heights of nancy's mountainside retreat. no billionaire starter castles here. this is where many of the people who work in aspen, live. and here, the stylers thought they were done with nancy. moving on. and then there was a knock at the door. 5:30 am. it was the sheriff's deputies. they had questions, they said. about a dead body. >> and i said, what dead body? and he wouldn't tell me. who died? wouldn't say a word. >> the deputies escorted them to the back seats of separate cars. and said not a word as they drove down to the station. nancy listen to the chatter on the radio. >> i heard, her sister's names being mentioned on the police radio. nancy sisters names. and i thought, maybe it's something to do with nancy. >> at the sheriff's office, deputies put nancy and trey into different interview rooms. >> and he had read me my miranda rights beforehand. and i said, i don't need an attorney. i haven't done anything wrong. i'll be happy to answer questions. >> which were, at least to begin with, pretty basic. >> wha city did you come from? >> we are from denver. we met at the university of colorado medical school. >> they asked me if i knew any of the men that she had dated. if i knew anybody who would want her dead. >> she didn't think it would be that sort of thing at all, said nancy. she told the detective she was pretty sure she knew exactly what happened to nancy. >> you're gonna find the tox report. you're gonna find out that she committed suicide. i was absolutely sure that that is what happened. >> but of course, investigators knew that nancy did not die by suicide. they knew someone beat her to death. attacked her as she slapped. and they know all about the rental arrangement that started well, and went to hell. and about the styler's rapid fall from success. to ruin nation. >> their financial situation was dire. and they were trying to pawn a very nice ring. >> it was very desperate? >> it was very desperate. >> they also knew, from kathy, how angry nancy styler was at nancy fister. >> what kind of things that she say? >> i hate that woman. nancy styler was upset. >> i could kill her? >> she did say that. i could just kill that woman. >> did nancy styler admits that she had threatened the other nancy? did she say, i would like to kill her? >> she was pretty open about her feelings for nancy and she made some statements that were certainly consistent with that. >> i said, you know, i would like to ring her neck. because she is such a, a drunk. and making me so crazy. >> nancy stylers personal opinion of nancy fister. had soured to such a degree that she would not speak ill of the dead. whether true or not. >> there is not one person who said a nice thing about her. not one person. >> investigators put the doctor in a separate room. they dressed him in an orange jumpsuit, even though he was not under arrest. and they asked a few softball questions. >> do you like william, or do you want tray? >> frankly. >> it wasn't long before the tone changed. and the accusations began. >> why did you go in there and hurt nancy? maybe you don't even know, but i know it's true. i know it's true. >> the sheriff himself, a close friend to the late nancy. try to get straight to admit that in a desperate rage, he killed nancy. >> you did this man. you did it. and the quicker you start saying that, the better it's going to be. >> but trey insisted, they were going after the wrong guy. he was innocent. >> how can you know it's true when it's not true? >> over and over, tray stressed and demonstrated how his 65 year old body, ravaged by disease. was far too frail to have done what was done to nancy. >> as you can see, id be a formidable adversary in a fight. >> but, it had already dawned on detectives. the more tray claim to be physically and capable. >> my condition is that, i don't think i could beat up a kid. >> the worse it looked for his wife. >> we definitely had to look at the facts that he had assistance potentially. >> my wife does everything. i'm disabled. i can't do anything. >> trey still insisted, took a polygraph. maybe he should not have. >> he fails his polygraph? >> yes. he did fail his polygraph. >> you're smiling? failed it badly or what? >> my understanding from the calligrapher, that tested it, he felt it badly. >> not admissible in court. but an investigative tool, they say. did not look good for the styler. but, desperation and anger do not by themself, a murder case make. and to make things a little extra difficult, they knew that they couldn't count on dna on the scene to link them to the crime. >> it could easily be explained because of where they were living. they were staying in that bedroom. >> the investigators drove the styler's back to their motel. and went on with the hard work of a murder investigation. they would have to find a piece of good, solid evidence. to tie someone, maybe the styler's to the crime. it didn't look so far as if something like that existed. and then? >> occasionally, something fortuitous happens to law enforcement. >> how does that old saying go? one man's trash, is another man's treasure. coming up! >> this broke the case. >> it seemed like magic. a grab bag of evidence suddenly at their feet. what was this stuff? 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and yet there suspects, nancy's former tenants? were not able bodied spring chickens. anything but athletic. and besides, there was zero physical evidence to tie either one of them to the crime. >> i think we were faced with the reality that this was always going to be a circumstantial case. >> so, that bedroom was keeping it secrets. and night be, keeping them still. except for one total fluke. a couple of days later. one of those little gifts that chance, or faith, or something. just drops out of frustrated investigators feet. all tied up with a neat little bow. >> what have you got here? this is not just a standard trash can. >> no. this broke the case. >> how weirdly fluky was this? the town of basalt, who knew had a rule? that you can't put personal garbage in public trash cans. and a city worker, a little extra diligent. happen to be poking around in the trash, just randomly checking for illegal garbage disposal. >> tell me what this guy did? and how he got the he came across this. >> he pulled the trash at this location, and was going to check it to see if there was any, if something stood out about it. >> he actually does this stuff? >> yeah. >> opens the bag? >> thank goodness he open the bag. he looks inside, and he sees a prescription pill bottles. and what was special about the prescription pill bottle is that it had nancy fister's name on it. >> of course the city worker recognize the name. aspen, and the towns around it were buzzing with news about nancy's murder. >> in addition to the pill bottle, after which he phoned the police. what did you guys find in that bag? >> in addition to the pill bottle. the big one was a hammer. a bloody hammer. >> a bloody hammer? found in the same trash as medication belonging to nancy? that simply could not be a coincidence. police were 99% sure that they had stumbled on the murder weapon. they sent it to the crime lab to be tested asap. but, the trash bag was not done divulging its investigative gifts. >> another thing that we found but was concerning to us. was the vehicle registration for the jaguar. >> even more, the trash can was located just behind the motel where the stylus were staying. that was miles away from nancy 's house. a little gift, and actually a big fat juicy gift. dropped right into investigators laps. and it, no question, link them to the climb. >> i cannot think of any other time, any other case that you heard about. where such obvious evidence is just there. >> thrown out. carelessly. so close to where the suspects are saying? yeah. >> deputies hovered around the motel to keep an eye on them. to make sure that they did not do a disappearing act. while they, and the da, waited for the lab to test the hammer. and then? three days later. another insanely improbable discovery. >> the key was found on the ground. it was right before the trash can. >> right there, just a few feet from the door of the stylus motel room. was the owner's key to the closet in which nancy's body was found. lying around as if they intended to throw it in the trash. and dropped it by mistake. >> just lying on the ground? >> on the ground. on the lighter portion of the concrete is where it was found. >> and then on the very same day, as to punctuate the whole strange affair. the dna results came back. and? >> nancy's dna was on the hammer. so we were able to, pretty clearly say that that was the murder weapon. >> the murder weapon, the key, and the motive. pretty much everything that they needed to pin the crime on them. it was march 3rd, 2014. not even a week since nancy's body was found. >> they knocked on the door, i stepped out of the door and they said we are arresting year for murder one. slap the cuffs on me and took me away. and they led my husband out in my bathrobe. >> what is it like for a woman who led a very successful life. who traveled around doing lectures on victoria lilies, two societies of like-minded horticulturalists. >> to be in jail? >> yeah. for murder. >> it was a shock. >> it was a shock for some of nancy's friends too. like mary. the stylers? really? >> it was just a big surprise, and not knowing anything about these people. it just seemed outrageous. why you would do something like that. >> but kathy, who pointed her suspicious finger at the styler 's right after the murder, practically jumped for joy. >> when i heard that, i was joyful that they found the person who had murdered nancy. and, i just felt that there was justice. >> and swift justice as that. what a relief to all those souls that nancy collected. who loved her like family. >> i was relieved that, you know, this is done. >> but, with one of the biggest crimes of aspirin would be far saw that fast? with so little drama? of course not. >> it looked like a set up to you? >> it looked like a setup. it did look like a setup. >> coming up! rethinking the case. something, does not add up. >> oh my god! >> bizarre is the only way i could characterize the 9-1-1 call. >> the call now becomes a clue. >> she is dead! full of blood! >> there is no way she saw what she said she saw. >> when dateline continues! teeth sensitivity is so common. it immediately feels like somebody's poking directly on the nerve. i recommend sensodyne. sensodyne toothpaste goes inside the tooth and calms the nerve down. and my patents say: “you know doc, it really works." it was a quick business, here keith morrison: it was a quick business, here in aspen, colorado. not even a week after body nancy pfister was found in her own closet. the others were led away in handcuffs. but was it too quick? too easy? >> it looks fishy to me. >> fishy? >> fishy. >> nancy's attorney. beth. >> 50? how >> in terms of, you have a bit very well respected position. being accused of murder. and, it was inconceivable to me that he would have killed somebody. >> plus, that elderly man that they lead away wipes in his wife's blue bathrobe. wouldn't be able to wrap up a body, flip a mattress. >> and it wouldn't be student enough to take a murder weapon, some pill bottles with his name on them, some vehicle registration and insurance. package it all in one bag. and put it in a bag and put it near where they were staying at. >> it made zero sense that his accomplice was his 62 year old woman. even though she said that she could kill nancy pfister. but a lot of people said outspoken things about nancy pfister on one day or another. >> i could see where she would be sitting with kathy, and they could be commiserating on what nancy did or didn't do, or the things she said, or the way they have been treated. and she could've said, i would like to kill her. but, listen, that's not evidence in a murder. >> besides, nancy styler was more than open about it. >> we all said that about somebody, some other, i would like to kill them or something like that but not ever thinking that, you know taking it that far. yes i did say that. but no i did not kill her. >> and if it wasn't nancy, couldn't be trey either. because he was frail, yes, said nancy. but also because he was never alone to do it. >> you are never without him? always together? >> i said we were always together. >> it did make sense, said the attorney, that someone else had killed nancy and planted the evidence against the skylar's. in an attempt to frame them. >> the final piece of it was that the owners cause a key magically appears on the sidewalk near the motel room on the day that they got arrested. >> it was a thought that crossed investigators minds as well. >> we would've been amiss had we now looked at the possibility that someone else was setting these people up. >> and so, even with the stylers'in jail. charged with murder. investigators were still quietly looking for other suspect. with someone with motive, and means to kill nancy. and frame the styler's. someone close to nancy, someone that nancy trusted, even loved. like the person who pointed the finger of blame. right in the middle of that 9-1-1 call. kathy carpenter. >> she had some people living there and she really, she puts them off. >> kathy carpenter. she said that she was nancy's dear friend, but, investigators were hearing a different story. >> the relationship had been a rollercoaster. so, we know that there had been this cycle of the ladies having a good relationship, and then things will go south. and then have a bad relationship for a period of time. >> and so with all of that in mind, the deputy da andrea went back to that hysterical phone call from kathy. the 9-1-1. >> what did you make of it? >> i think bizarre is the only way i can characterize that call. immediately identifying suspects. it was not, getting help for nancy pfister. it was you should be looking at these two people, immediately. so that was interesting. >> so it was. and, just as interesting? what kathy told 9-1-1 about seeing nancy's body. >> the fact that immediately, the deceased is identified as good nancy pfister, would've been impossible to do. >> impossible, said investigator lisa because nancy 's body was completely covered. head to toe. when kathy side in the closet. >> she is dead. for blood! >> we're looking at photos of the crime scene and. we knew that there was no way she saw what she said she said she saw. >> there was more. kathy of course had keys to nancy's house. including a key to the closet. was the last person to admit seeing nancy alive. and when she left, pinned up that do not disturb sign on nancy's door. supposedly because her friend needed to get over her jet lag. >> she ended up making a statement to another individual that nancy would be sleeping and resting for the next three days. >> and three days later the body was found? >> correct. >> and, the day that that closet key magically appeared so close to the motel room? kathy was known to be in the very same neighborhood. right around that time. meeting with her therapist. so, next question. was kathy truly nancy's friend and helper? or her murder? trying to pin the blame on someone else? coming up! >> what did you see? >> the interrogation. probing questions. puzzling actions. >> i don't, i don't remember. >> grab the kleenex. >> oh yeah, for the tears? >> there was no tears during the time that she was trying to portray herself as crying. >> and perplexing memories. >> i saw her, the head. like i don't remember the position. but i knew her, the blond hair. >> when dateline continues! okay, again, this is a status bar. this is a search bar. let's know the difference, okay? social media, it can be overwhelming for a young homeowner turning into their parents. what does it mean to slide into someone's dms? -mm. -it sounds like a lot of fun. okay, we're not ready for that. as a team, we'll get there. it might be a fruit emoji, but that doesn't mean they're talking about fruit. -oh. progressive can't save you from becoming your parents, but we can save you money when you bundle home and auto with us. do you really think we need 47 photos of fun dinner at pam's? 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why she knew it was nancy's bloody body in the closet? even though the first responders saw what was a pile of blankets when they arrived. >> could she have lifted up those blankets? >> she could have. >> and see? and >> she could've. and during the interviews. i specifically asked her. did you step into the closet? did you lift any of the blankets? did you manipulate in any way? and the answers repeatedly were now. she did not touch, she did not move, she did not manipulate. >> i did not touch her. i ran out there so fast. >> and yet, at the same time, she gave specific details about the body. >> i saw her, the head. like, i don't remember the position. but i knew her, the bottom's hair. >> she tells me that she immediately recognize her friend because of the blond hair. and the length of that hair. how much hair did you see? i would ask miss carpenter. >> maybe like, maybe something. i just. she had highlights. >> so, how many strands would you say that you saw? was it matted with blood? or just a little blood? >> i, i just remember the hair. >> if you see in the crime scene photographs of how that body was found. and that body was in the closet. she did not see that. >> the more that kathy talked. >> how much blood did you see? how much bloody would you say that you saw? >> i saw her hair on the head. i just remember it on the head. >> the more suspicious that the investigators became. >> she is describing in the interviews, how, where the injuries were to the front. and i went and i reviewed the autopsy photos. and she was exactly spot on to where she indicated the injury to the for. >> it wasn't just the word, said investigator. but it was kathy's grief, or more act. >> i don't, i don't remember. >> grab the kleenex. >> oh yeah, for the tears? >> a bad act at that. >> there were no tears during the time that she was trying to portray herself as crying. >> some people cried without tears, surely? >> i'm sure some people do. >> what can you tell from a thing like that? >> it's just always interesting when, you know, somebody is going to such lengths to act like they are emotionally distraught. and the body does not respond. >> and then she discovered what kathy did the day after that she said that you found nancy's body. she went to the bank, where nancy had trusted her with access to the safety deposit box. and kathy, took from that box. the last rent payment. $6,000 in cash. and an heirloom ring that nancy had inherited from her mother. >> within 24 hours, a little less actually. within 24 hours of her friends being found by her. she's going into the safety deposit box and taking $6,000 in jewelry from it. >> investigators now had an idea, fast gathering strength. that kathy carpenter was far more involved than she claimed to be. >> she made some very detailed descriptions of that body that she couldn't have made unless she had seen her before she was put in that closet. meaning right after that she was actually murdered. >> did she provide rational explanation for being able to do that? >> no. >> they brought her back again and again for questioning. five days, almost 20 hours of questioning. during one involuntary gauge, and they read back the transcript of the 9-1-1 call. >> you talked about, my friend in the closet is dead. there's, it's impossible that you knew that she was dead. impossible. >> through her own words at her. the bloody reported seeing. >> in the displeasure you said, blood on her forehead. >> and how she so quickly accuse the styler's. >> she had some people living there. >> and they told her that they just knew that she was lying. >> i believe that you know what happened and, no listen. and i am going to be able to prove that, because that is my job. >> and kathy carpenter, like trey, submitted to a polygraph test. but, if he felt his? >> kathy failed hers worse. >> you absolutely bombed the polygraph. not only that, on the 9-1-1. on the 9-1-1. right here. here is all this documentation of deceit and guilt. >> so for detectives, the only question left for us, ted kathy kill nancy and tried to stop frame the styler? or where they all in it together? >> i don't know what you mean. they're liars. >> coming up! >> i don't think anyone wanted that to be found. >> another turn in the case. >> this has been one of the more frightening experiences of my career. >> when dateline continues! experiences of my career. keith morrison: --when "dateline" continues. lysol is supporting schools by providing materials to teach healthy habits. so they can kill 99.9% of viruses and bacteria. keeping kids together, here, at places like the lunch table. where they can share who they truly are. 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at first, it certainly looked that way. and yet the more they thought about, it the more unlikely that it seemed. why? well. the trash bag containing so much incriminating evidence, for example. the one that the diligence a the worker just happened to stumble on? >> i really think that this was actually pure luck. i don't think anybody wanted that to be found. i think really the simple explanation here, is really the right explanation. is that we had a great break in the case and, but thank goodness for that. >> the only conspiracy theory that assist in the air was buying. was one that involved the styler's and kathy carpenter. all of them together, committing the murder. the two women bonding over their shared frustration with nancy's behaviors. >> it appears that they almost felt the time as a bit of a friendship around that mutual anger towards nancy. >> and trey? push to this financial and emotional limit. was the most one to wield the hammer. while the women handle the body. and cleaned up the bedroom. but if that was right, something went wrong after the murder. the conspiracy did not hold. >> when kathy realized the gravity of what she had gotten herself into, she got worried and, worry that she would be fingered. >> so cathy struck first. the da's theory went. called 9-1-1, and finger the styler's to deflect attention from herself. in the investigation, they try to get trade to turn on his wife or kathy. >> we've had here here as long as you have. she is telling us a lot of good stuff. >> and they also try to get kathy to flip on the steelers. >> somebody's gonna come clean and say, this is what she did to. but she didn't tell us that. now you are responsible for it just like them. but you're gonna be the one left out that didn't tell the truth. >> but it didn't work. >> i just have my suspicions. >> what you. no no no. >> on march 14th. three weeks after nancy was murdered, kathy like the styler's before her was charged with first degree murder. and put in the county jail. >> the newest suspect arrested was catherine carpenter. >> she was on the phone with catherine just a day before. discussing the memorial service. >> i think i was supposed to get something for her to get to the memorial. >> now she was behind bars. she seemed crazy. but in a town that could barely believe one of its own had been murdered, anything seemed possible now. >> i should've been surprised or shocked or something but it that moment i was just, i was young like you know. who knows? 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>> i basically wanted to celebrate her life. and her spirit of adventure. >> billy got off to. what was in his heart. >> if you had known me over the last four years or so, you know me because of nancy. when you see me, think of nancy. she was a connector, that was her real main role i think in everyone's life. >> and when you look down there in that crowd, how would they react? >> a lot of tears. a lot of laughter. stories, they were all just solidly there. in that space, in that moment. >> but, at the very same moment. in a far different space just down the street from the final hotel jerome. kathy wept in her cell at the picked in county jail. and listened. >> i could hear the music, the band, and i cried. i cried a lot. i wanted to be there. i should've been there. and it hurt. >> how could they think that she had anything to do with it? >> there was some suggestion that you had a motive to harm nancy. >> absolutely not. what was my motive? there is no motive. >> shared frustration with nancy about how difficult she was. >> now. now. not at all. >> nancy what's her best friend, she said. >> i loved her! she was, i was fond of nancy. >> that's why she sat through all of those hours of interrogation without a lawyer, she said. she wanted to help them understand the truth. like for example, how wasn't at all suspicious that she knew right away that it was nancy in that closet. >> you know, the order. it just knocked me over. and to me it was very apparent that that wasn't just a pile of clothes in the closet. who else but nancy would be in that closet? >> you aren't a complete idiot. you understood that it had to be nancy. >> right, who else would it be? >> and when she so quickly figured the stylers, it was just common sense. >> they were in the house. >> you knew that they were mad at nancy? >> they were mad. they were upset at her. >> but what about the suspicious details? like saying she saw blood on nancy's forehead, but nancy's forehead was completely covered up? >> in the dispatch you said, blood on the forehead? that's easy to explain, said kathy. she never actually said that. >> they said that i saw her forehead. i did not see her forehead. i saw blood on the head board. >> headboard? in fact, crime scene techs did find blood on the head board. but headboard is not the word that reveals in the transcript of the man on one phone call. >> on page three of the transcript it's as i saw blood on her forehead. >> i go home. and listen to the tape. and i hear headboard. but i listen to it i bet, ten times by myself before i told anybody else. >> god, i don't know. i saw blood on her head board. >> sure enough, kathy and the 9-1-1 call did actually said headboard. not for head. >> i saw blood on her head board. and i, the closet was locked. >> the transcription error. and though investigator said that made no real disappearance. kathy's attorney is sure, the little error planted suspicion of kathy from the very beginning. and started investigators off on an inaccurate and inappropriate direction. >> they used every technique on the book on her. and, honestly, as i watched those interrogations, i started thinking, i might have confessed to doing something. just to make it stop. >> here is all of this documentation of deceit and guilt. >> when they told you did it. >> yes. >> repeatedly? >> yes. >> and each time what would you say? >> i did not do it. >> and even though it appears from the interrogation tapes that she did say some improbable things. >> i saw her. the head. like, i don't remember the position but i knew her, the blond hair. >> she was on doctor prescribed anxiety medication the whole time, she said. so in her confused fog, and prompted by the investigators, said kathy. her descriptions were unclear. she may even have imagined things that she could not have seen. >> is it possible that you are led into saying something like that? >> absolutely. absolutely. she was in a plastic bag and i saw, through the transparency of the bag, i saw a little bit of her hair. >> so why did she failed a polygraph? >> i was very upset. i was very emotional. and, they did tell me that in order for me to take this test properly, i could not feel any emotions, and just hearing the words, just hearing her name. it's very emotional. >> but it was true, she said. no denying it. she did take $6,000 in cash and an heirloom ring from nancy's safe deposit box at the day after she found the body. but it wasn't for her, she said. rather it was to fulfill a promise to nancy. >> she often would say, you know, for if it comes to my travels. do this, do, that you're my little to do list. >> and on the to-do list, that rain. >> she inherited a family ring from her mother. and her sisters wanted it, and she had asked me. make sure that julianna, if anything would happen to me, that she would get this ring. and that was my intention. to fulfill her risks. >> to give it to julianna? >> to give it to julianna. >> just as she had every intention of giving the money to julianna to. so it wouldn't just disappear in some disputed family trust. but then investigators used everything she said and did against her. >> i said, how could they be so wrong? i had nothing to do with this. she was like my friend. i loved her. >> kathy's attorney told her, don't not worry. the case won't hold up in court. and even if he was right, the tile might be years away. so she did all that was left to her. >> and i started praying, praying that the truth would be revealed. that's what i wanted. was the truth to be revealed. >> and then, suddenly. it appeared that it was. the truth that is. but would anyone believe it? >> coming up! a stunner from mr. skylar. 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>> i got a phone call from my assistant district attorney one afternoon. >> saying? >> saying that he had spoken with a defense attorney. specifically, the styler's defense attorney. and that william styler wanted to make a statement. >> now that could be interesting. the good doctor was wheeled into the interview room where lisa was waiting for him. >> mr. styler, i'm gonna have you right here sir. >> okay. >> but it was far more than just a statement. trey styler dropped a bombshell. and blew the da's meticulously assembled case wide open. >> i lost my mind, or at least. i lost my rational mind. it was a confession! >> after months of strenuous nile. trey told them. >> it was all me. >> okay. >> detailed, by detail, he took them through the killing. how he slipped out of the motel room why his wife was sleeping. and drove to his house, and turning to confront her. >> i stopped my head into the door, to ascertain that she was in fact in the bed. and called out her name again. and she did not respond. >> and then, he said, he stood over the still sleeping nancy. all the rage that builds up inside of him during his dreadful physical and financial decline, suddenly focused on a singular idea. >> there she was, vulnerable, helpless. so he went down the stairs. >> got a hammer, climbed back up. >> i got the. hammer went, came back. and, struck her in the head with a hammer. -- >> there she was, vulnerable, helpless. so he went down the stairs. >> got a hammer, climbed back up. >> i got the. hammer went, came back. and, struck her in the head with a hammer. >> then, strengthened by a rush of adrenaline. he said. he single-handedly wrapped her up. traeger into the closet. and cover-up. >> i wasn't as strong as i used to be. adam, nonetheless, i was able to do that. >> and then he grabbed and took away some of nancy's belongings. made it look like she was gone. >> he was very clear about what he did, how he did it. when he did it. in very specific detail. >> and so, you do what. ? a >> i had it with a hammer. . >> where? >> in what was, when she was in that position. the top of her head. which we'll have. if you don't mind. >> i do mind. you touching me. >> as for his wife? or kathy comparator? >> neither of them were involved in any way. >> until this moment, he insisted, he had not told either one of them a single thing about what he did. >> he not only, limited his wife's participation in it. he said he wasn't involved at all. and kathy carpenter was not involved at all. that he did the whole thing himself. that he had a bird of energy. and was able to do all those things? on his own? you have a skeptical look on your face. >> that's what he told me ass. >> what did you think? >> having heard that. investigative miller told dr. styler exactly what she thought. >> i want you to walk in here, thanking that i have believed you. cause i will be very frank, remember i told you i call it like i see it. i don't buy everything that you are selling me today. okay? >> okay. >> this time, investigator miller was convinced that all three were in it together. she looked straight at trey and confronted him. he was a frail old man. surely he did not expect that she believed that he did it all alone. >> and you tell me you can't stand up. however, you are giving me an accounting of a story where you are saying you are up and down stairs multiple times. moving deadweight is not easy work. mr. styler. >> when i've thought about it since then, i've reminded of those stories. of women lifting cars off of their children. >> mr. styler. i will do a lot of things in the interview room. but i'm not gonna compare a mother saving a child, with you murdering nancy. so let's not go there. >> but trey was resolute. he was the lone killer. >> the essential truths are that kathy carpenter really and truly had nothing to do with this. nancy styler really and truly had nothing to do with this. i have done my best to hide it from even myself, much less them. and, it all, it always me. >> how concerned were you that he decided that he was going down anyway, he might as well get them off the hook? 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>> william said that. i'm not saying that. >> but despite investigators doubts. on june 17th, 2014. after three and a half months in jail. nancy was released. >> and my attorney, beth, was there. and he said good news. you're getting out. and i said, great. go and she said, but, there was a catch. >> she gave her a letter. it was a private note from trey. >> and she told me about the plea bargain that he took. and one of the sentences that he wrote. i know your sentence -- innocent, and i know you are too. >> he said that he was doing it to save her, he didn't kill her, and neither did she. he was doing it for love. >> i cried that whole day. even though i was getting out. it should've been a great time. i can't believe he was having to do this, the system is sick. it's messed up. >> three days later, june 20th. doctor trades tyler formally pleaded guilty to second degree murder. and was sentenced to 20 years in prison. that same day, the da dropped charges against kathy. and she walked out of jail. a free woman. >> i was very grateful. very thankful. and i felt, god answered my prayers. and, at the same time, it was still scary. i'm leaving jail after being locked up. what will people think? how will i be judged? >> she is grateful. scared. also, sad. >> there was sorrow, still thinking about the loss of nancy. and that he did something like this. that he did it. you know, that was still hurtful. >> but nancy? added a builder angered to the world of grief and relief. if trey was innocent, as he told his wife he was. then, had the real killer just walked free? >> i had kathy carpenter pegged. in my own little courtroom. and every little piece of evidence that was given to me? corroborated that. >> and then. it was just over two weeks later. nancy took a call. trey had something to tell her. his letter wasn't quite true, he said. in fact, he, and he alone murdered nancy. kathy carpenter had nothing to do with it. >> it was, it took my world and just flipped it upside down. it felt like my whole life had been a lie. my whole life with him and been ally. >> so, what did he say about being able to withhold that information from you? >> i said to him, why didn't you tell me? why didn't you tell me? and he said, i was able to tuck it in a small part of my brain where i try to admit that it wasn't there. and i said, if you are told me, i would've brought you down to the police station and said, he needs help. you know. give this man the help he needs. and, can you imagine that i slept next to him for six nights after that? >> nancy tried to rebuild her life. moved back to the east coast where she grew up. and reclaimed her maiden name. she filed for divorce. >> do you love him at all anymore? >> i love him. i love him. i love the man that was. i'll don't love this monster. >> in 2015, william was found hanging in his prison cell. his death officially ruled a suicide. nancy said that she hopes that people remember him for the man that he once was. before physical and mental illness took over his life. it was then that nancy's attorney beth, had to admit that she had been completely wrong. to think that kathy was involved in the murder. and set up the styler. >> had tree not confessed. i think there is a very decent chance that kathy could've ended up convicted. and what a tragedy that would have been. >> and still, i think there are a little suspicious of you? you know? >> i've heard that there is still some questions and people 's minds. >> she knows, all to personally, what it's like to lose the trust of her community. she is also lost her job. her home. and she has lost her very best friend, she said. and she told us that she feels guilty. >> that's why i said i wish i would've helped her and have been there. what could i've done differently? talked her into staying there and not coming home? >> nobody can know the future. >> right? but i do blame myself. you know, it's something that all have to work through. but. >> one person with whom kathy had not spoken with after all this happened. was nancy's daughter. julianna. >> what would you want to say to julianna? >> that i just hope that she knows the truth. i had nothing to do with the murder of her mother. i was never -- and i, i just, i was looking out for her. and her mother's wishes. and, i just hope that she would find forgiveness and her heart. and know that i love. her and her mother. very much. >> what does she have to forgive you for? >> i don't know. why would even say forgive. but. >> it's curious? >> yeah. just, i've been portrayed as this thief, this bad person. untrusting and i don't know why. >> trust. something that nancy was known for. not so much of it these days. >> aspen will never be the same, my life will never be the same. >> so what is last pin lost? >> a lot of history. nancy was part of aspen's history. but it's a huge loss for the community. >> some of which will be telling stories about nancy for a very long time. >> nancy lived a fantastic life. and, i think we all need a little bit of more dreaming like that. >> more than nancy? >> a little more nancy. >> i'm craig melvin. hello, i'm craig melvin, and this is "dateline." >> and this is "dateline. 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