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we'll go over what to expect when court proceedings resume later this morning. good morning and welcome to "way too early" on this monday, june 10th. monday again, folks. i'm jonathan lemire. thanks for starting your day and week with us. president joe biden is back in the united states after a very busy week in france that focused on reaffirming america's commitment to its allies and commemorating 80 years since d-day. yesterday the president and first lady capped their trip with a visit to the american cemetery, the resting place of more than 2,300 war-dead with over a thousand names missing inskrieshed on the interior wall of its chapel. the low caution saw heavy fighting nearby during world war ii while the chapel still bears a hole caused by an artillery shell which is left as a reminder of what took place there. the president finished his trip by paying his respects to the fallen. afterward he spoke to reporters about the sacrifice those troops made and the importance of standing by our allies. >> we stopped the germans. we stopped the germans. and the idea we were able to avoid being engaged in major battles in europe is not realistic. that's why it's so important to continue the alliances we have, continue to keep nato strong, continue to do what we've been able to do for the last -- since the end of world war ii. so i just wanted -- jill and i wanted to come and pay our respect. more marines were lost than any battle in the middle of world war ii. the idea that i come to normandy and not make the short trip here to pay tribute, it's the same story. think about it. america showed up. america showed up to stop the germans. america showed up to make sure that they did not prevail, and america shows up when we need it, just like our allies show for us. >> mr. president, what do you hope americans take away from you coming on this interest in? >> that the best way to avoid these kinds of battles in the future is to stay strong with our allies. do not break, do not break. >> this trip to honor d-day was also about establishing an implicit contrast with donald trump. biden never mentioned trump by name, but he touted alliances, allowances that trump has threatened. he's promised to stand strong with ukraine while trump has time and time again sided with russia and then even yesterday he concluded his trip with a visit to that world war i cemetery. it was the same one that trump skipped when he was president because it was raining. and while the president was saluting the veterans over the weekend, trump was delivering an off the rails campaign speech in las vegas. in sweltering heat yesterday trump struggled to speak and dealt with teleprompter issues throughout the afternoon. that caused him to go off script, results in some revealing and some confusing moments. >> he just came up and i said, did the teleprompters not work? he said not a bit. and then they came up with a story and said, trump doesn't pay. i don't paycor tractors that do a [ bleep ] diop. that's a [ bleep ] job. that's a [ bleep ] job. >> this is the worst border in the history of the world. no third world country has a border like that. i'll tell you what. i hope the military revolts at the voting booth. >> i went to a boat company in south carolina. the boat -- i said, how is it? he said it's a problem, sir. they want us to make all electric boats. i said, let me ask you a question. he said nobody asked the question. it must be my relationship to mit. very smart. i said what would happen if the boat sank from its weight and you're in the boat and you have this tremendously powerful battery and the battery's now under water and there's a shark and there's a shark approximately ten yards over there? did you notice that? i watched some sharks. well, they weren't that angry. they bit off the young lady's leg because of the fact they were not hungry, but they misunderstood who she was. these people are great. hi said there's no problem with sharks. they just didn't understand a young woman swimming. a lot of people were in shock. i said, so there's a shark ten yards away from the boat, ten yards over here, do i get electrocuted if the boat is sinking and water goes over the battery. do i stay on top of the boat and get electrocuted or do i jump over by the shark and not get electrocuted? he didn't know the answer. he said, nobody's ever asked me that question. i said i think there's a good question. i think there's a lot of electrocution in the current. i'll take electrocution over the shark any time. >> really not sure what he was talking about there. we move on now to far more important news. israeli forces have rescued four hostages from hamas captivity. on saturday they found noa argamani, almog meir jan, andre kozlov, and shlomi zee you. the hostages were being held by armed captors. no argamani was in an apartment alone while the three male hostages were held together. on the ground troops provided heavy shelling to provide protection for the forces trying to rescue the hostages. one was killed in the raid. more than 200 palestinians also died during saturday's operation. it's not known how many of these were militants. four four had been kidnapped during the nova music festival on october 7th. the hostages were found in good medical condition. they were taken to an israeli hospital for evaluation where they were reunited with their families. some beautiful scenes there. joining us now retired cia officer mark papadopoulos. marc, first of all, tell us about this operation, how difficult was this. do talk to us about the civilian toll, and do we the it could foreshadow other similar rescue operations. >> good morning, jonathan. a really extraordinary recovery operation. it's going to go down in my history of the world of terrorism. they had their undercover police tactical unit infiltrate into the area. they went in there, they recovered the hostages. upon exfiltration is when they had contact with hamas and that's when a lot of casualties ensued, but that's after they were removing the four hostages. it's reallying they assisted with this. they used three september services for this. of course, one part of this is that the commander of the israeli tactical team was killed in the operation. it reminds many of us of what happened in 1976 in an airport in uganda where they rescued hostages back then. the older brother of the prime minister was killed in the special forces utility. huge relief in is real. there was joy. tv commentators were crying. my contacts were absolutely relieved and overjoyed. one key point on this, jonathan, the us raleys that i talked to said while this was a one-off, the real way to get back the hostages is through the cease-fire deal which we know is still pending right now. >> let's talk about that. in moments secretary blinken is set to touch down in ee 1yi79 to try to push for that. benny gantz is resigning from israel's war cab it citing prime minister netanyahu is not capable of going forward. talk about that seismic development. >> it's interesting. there was a sense of relief and you forrial, but the political reality of what's happening with the israeli fast has now crept back into the equation with benny gantsz leaving. what does this really mean? he's left the war cabinet. another observer also resigned and now you have prime minister netanyahu really reliant on much more extreme kind of nationalist hard-liners, even harder to come by. secretary blinken arrives in the region amongst this political dysfunction. let's not forget it's actually an israeli deal that they're backtracking from now. you can use all sorts of words to describe what blinken has done. it's pretty damn difficult, but the administration is right to try. that's a deal hanging over the israelis. they have something historic at their fingertips. can netanyahu deliver now? it's skeptical. good on the administration for trying. >> you said that well. euphoria about this rescue operation. retired cia officer marc polymeropoulos diop lus. still ahead, manhattan attorney alvin bragg, he sets his own timeline. plus, we'll take a look at election results from overseas as far right parties make big gains in the european parliament. those stories and a check on sports and wler when we come right back. we come right back so this is pickleball? 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>> we're not there yet, bill, come on. a lot of areas are going to have a beautiful day, but the problem areas are going to stay problematic all week long. so here's all the rainfall we're going to see in florida. today isolated. but watch what happens. this is not a tropical system, but it is going to pour. if you chose this week, it's going to be umbrella weather like on and off every single day. these are the rainfall totals. it could rain ten inches. florida has sandy soil, so hopefully the flooding won't be too bad. urban flooding will be a problem. in the west t heat will be back on. it's going to be one of those summers, almost like last year, endless heat. so phoenix to tucson, expect hot temperatures in the middle of this week. 110 to 112. even today, california, reading, 104. sat lake city not bad at 8 8. we do it again. great weather. low humidity. beautiful morning in the great lakes. no problems whatsoever. and as we go into tuesday and wednesday, it starts to get warmer. we should be looking at our first 90s later this week. be prepared for that. >> can't say i'm looking forward to it. bill karins, thank you so much. still ahead on "way too early," we'll turn to politics and donald trump's potential vp contenders hit the sunday morning talk shows as the rate for the number two spot on the gop ticket heats up. we'll take a look at who may be at the top of the list as well as some possible dark horses. we'll be right back with that. ks we'll be right back with that. in her face, hands, and feet called tardive dyskinesia, or td. so her doctor prescribed austedo xr— a once-daily td treatment for adults. ♪ as you go with austedo ♪ austedo xr significantly reduced kate's td movements. some people saw a response as early as 2 weeks. with austedo xr, kate can stay on her mental health meds— (kate) oh, hi buddy! 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>> jonathan, let's start in the reverse. i think hunter biden would not testify. i think the law he's being charged with is so straightforward, it's going to be difficult absent any other testimony we would not know about to have him take the stand and it would be beneficial to him. i think if there is a proto him testifying at all it's possible that he could human ietz himself in front of the jury, but i don't see how he would do that without taking the fifth a number of times in which he criminalizes himself, but he runs the risk in front of the jury of looking like a guilty man. ultimately a his attorney i'm advising this would not be a good idea. >> walk us through the case. so far you've mentioned the evidence seems somewhat clear. give us a sense as to the timeline as to when this may wrap up, when we may get a verdict, and your sense of how the prosecution has done? >> i think the prosecution had a relatively low bar given the elements of the crime. it's a straightforward case and has essentially two elements. the first is that hunter biden possessed a gun while he was addicted to a controlled substance and the prosecution is establishing that through circumstantial evidence. the other is he lied in order to get the handgun. two straightforward charges. they don't need hunter biden's testimony to refute that. whatever it is they're putting on regarding the gun store owner handling the app indication, those things should be sufficient if it's compelling. this is a case that should wrap up at least in terms of the cases both by the defendant and the prosecution this week along with closing statements. so we could be looking at a case going before the jury before friday. >> donald trump has got a presentence interview with the probation officer today. you're familiar with these things. give us a sense as to what that's like and we, of course, can only imagine how unhappy trump will be to participate in such an event. >> listen, jonathan, these are probation officers who handle things in volume, so it's going to be very straightforward, and these questions are relatively routine. you alluded to a lot of it. they're going to want to know who the contacts are, who's living with you in terms of income. they're also going to want to know what your propensity is for a flight risk and also what respect you have for your the law in general. so done is going to have to toe a particularly tight line given everything he said publicly and basically feign respect for the law, feign an understanding of his conviction, and basically convince this person he should not be put in some sort of 40e78 confinement or more serious custody. >> all right. msnbc legal analyst, we appreciate you helping us out this morning. up next here on "way too early," donald trump continues to offer his sympathy for those who stormed the capitol on january 6th. we'll play for you his comments at a rally in nevada yesterday. >> and then coming up on "morning joe," a radio host is raising awareness about antiabortion with the story of his wife's devastating miscarriage and the treatment she was denied. plus, we'll bring you live reporting from israel just days after forces rescued four hostages in gaza. the latest on that operation, and the political turmoil within the israeli government as a key member steps down from the war cabinet. what that means for prime minister netanyahu. also ahead, oscar-nominated actor jude law will be live in studio with a look at his new film "fire brand." 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>> it's going to be really important for the biden campaign and other democrats to remind people what the trump years were like, including how they ended. president biden was in france for several days last week, and his team really set about creating an implicit contrast with donald trump. biden was there for all the d-day events praising alliances. we know trump has tried to sabotage nato and other american alliances. president biden reiterating commitment to ukraine. we know trump frequently backs russia and not kyiv. then even yesterday, president biden was at the world war i cemetery that trump, when he was in office, skipped a ceremony there because it rained. do you think this messaging is breaking through? >> the biden campaign is going to be about contrast. they've been very, very clear about that. lifts it upside by side. one guy who is serious, one guy who is -- stands for the gravitas and great things america is about. another guy is about negativity and tearing it down. i think you'll see a lot of this, one side talks about how america sucks, and the other side talks about elevating america and the greatness of america. i think the message is going to resonate. >> you're an expert on branding, advertising, and breaking through. no doubt, it was noted in wilmington by the biden camp this biden trip did break through. they acknowledge, a lot is because the eyes of the world would be on the 80th anniversary of d-day. they were pleased how front and center the president was. talk about the challenge they're going to have keeping him front and center going forward. >> look, they have to. the american public has a great sense and a great sniff test. if all of a sudden he's not around, they're hiding him, and only doing certain events, and we're going to coddle him this way, he's got to be out there, aggressive, front and center. this all, of course, leads up to june 27th and the debate, which is going to be huge. >> president back on the world stage in a few days, heading to italy for the g-7 later this week. let's talk about the debate. still three weeks off, two and a half weeks off. he has time to prepare. what are some of the things he needs to accomplish that night? >> first and foremost, and there's not a close second, and it happened in the state of the union, he has to answer the question, is he too old? has he lost his fast ball? does he not have his punch anymore? i don't want to say substance over style, but he has to come off as full of vigor and ready to go and answer that one, oh, well, you know, he's too old, and just answer this off the bat, the same way he did state of the union. second thing, and this is why the style plays with the audience, it's about content and about who has a better grip on things. i think trump does not have the bells and whistles around him, so i think this plays to biden. first and foremost, he's got to come off full of vigor. lastly, donald trump has a probation officer interview today, something he deeply detests. just talk about how you think he'll take that, and what sort of impact -- you know, sentencing, month off -- how is that weighing on him going forward and how it may impact what he says. >> i think it is weighing on him. obviously, the sentencing is going to be interesting. most people don't think he'll get a prison sentence. neither do i. look, you know all this just eats away at him. probably, he'll be sitting there like this at the probation meeting. we know his court stance. he certainly ain't loving this. the good news is, he's back on the campaign trail, saying the things he says. i think the great news about the trial was a guilty verdict, and he is back on the streets now. >> biden team thinks that, as well. the trial sheltered him. >> yes. >> now that he is out and about, americans will be listening to him and turned off by what he says. the biggest moment is the debate, underscoring how large that looms. donny deutsch, thank you so much. we will talk again later this morning on "morning joe." thanks to all of you for getting up "way too early" with us on this monday morning. 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