politician, who somehow made i into the white house was zer political experience only to b disgraced as the first president to be impeached twic while in office, he's now th first current or forme president of the united states to be criminally indicted in history. nbc news has learned that hi indictment includes about 30 charges related to documen fraud. those are classified a misdemeanors the associated press i reporting that according to it sources, trump is also facin at least one felony charge seven from the manhattan district attorney alvin bragg' investigation of the forme presidents role in the hus money payment made to th former adult film star storm daniels, with whom he allegedl had an affair. donald trump denies a resume affair and her new interview with the london-based times radio tha aired yesterday. daniel said she's not afraid she even hopes to be called to testify against trump. >> trump's indictment is expected to remain sealed unti tuesday afternoon when h scheduled to turn himself in t be formally arraigned at a manhattan courthouse while, there he will b fingerprinted, processed, an have charges right to him by judge ron marchand, who will officially over c the case he's the same judge that presided over the trum organization criminal tax frau trial last year. it resulted in the company being fined the maximum penalt of one point $6 million. none of, that the unsealing of the indictment, formal arraignment, and all of th logistics that go along with it, none of that is happened yet but trump many of his allies have already begun criticizing and accusing the justice syste of being corrupt and biase against him. donald trump, like anyon accused of a crime in th united states is presume innocent until proven guilty he's entitled to his day i court, in order to defen himself. but his focus at the momen does not seem to be hi defense. it seems to be o delegitimizing the justice system altogether. he seems to have the ful support of the republican part with him the vast majority of elected members of which have alread come to trump's defense. including former attorne general bill barr, who ech some of trump's talking points when asked to comment about th indictment at the national review ideas summit yesterday. >> judging from the news reports it's you know, it's th archetype will abuse of th prosecutorial function to engage in a political hijab it's a disgrace if it turns ou to be what we think it is. politically, it's gonna be damaging i think to th republican party, simply because, i think it's a no los situation for the democrats. legally i think it's, from wha i understand, it's patheticall weak case. >> the tone, the town, or th substance of much of trump's world response to hi indictment seems focused o undermining the justice system in order to undercut the validity of a possible guilt verdict. politically, it's a messag that is worked for trump in th past in fact he's been fundraisin off the news of his indictment his campaign says they receive more than $4 million in ne donations in the first 24 hour after news of the indictment broke. i'm joined by michael shearer, journalist and forme congressional candidate. michael, i was fascinated when the indictment came out. looking through the quotes, th tweets, the press releases fro republican members of congress with the exception, as often found an exception except for congressman in nebraska. for someone said wow, he's gonna get his day in court he's innocent till prove guilty, what an opportunity to clear his name and show thes charges are false. instead it was filled with witch hunt, left-wing, radical socialist, max, da, manhatta brag language. >> it's not surprising, thes things, these responses, these tweets, the phoenix of the justice system by electe republicans have probably been written for weeks. these are things that they wer prepared to release. as donald trump's poll numbers within the republican primar have been steady or gone up at least over 10% in one of those polls. you have these members o congress who are in safe districts, who have nothing to lose by supporting only today they've bee supporting donald trump. do you look at the house o representatives for example. let's say two to 3% of those seats are ever in play now it' been so gerrymandered. when you support donald trum in your district you're doin just fine you're speaking to your audience. i was struck by bill barr just now he's speaking at the national review so in essenc he speaking to his audit, a bi group of conservatives, an he's defending donald trump. because that's the thing you d right now, still in th republican party probably to their peril. you look at the senate, it becomes a little different they're little more careful, they're not in remainder districts. so the reaction, while still adhering to trump, is in uniso probably because it's been rai already, and in the books for while. >> michael let me ask you, i'm worried about something else on one hand the motivation for most of these republicans mayb don't cross donald trump right now, he gets convicted and goes to jail, you can cost him dead maybe but i'm more worried about the fact that this is reminiscen of the days before the election, or the months before the election when donald trump would warn people that the election was gonna be corrupted, so it ma not have to accept the results of it. obviously you can't not accept the results if it's a guilty verdict, but his followers cannot accept it >> it's true and there is a delegitimizatio of the process that is one o the fruits of the trum administration one of the fruits of thi looking at american politics a sort of a joke that will come in, it will tak it down. calling it a swamp from th beginning was what got him i the white house essentially. he got in there, taking depart to begin with, hi followers like that. the problem is his followers are smaller group than there used to be and these things aren't workin as well. he spent four year delegitimizing congressional investigations, then you try and have your own, peopl aren't paying attention. look at the oversigh communities in the house are doing right now. these are the same people that said house hearings don' matter oversight does it matter and i think you're gonna see that a little bit with these indictments. sure, new york doesn't release mugshots but somehow that mugshot wil be released i would guess. you'll see him sort of, yo know, lionized by people on th republican party after this. but i think this group o people that it here to wha donald trump says and does, think it's a shrinking group, think that's gonna be what you'll see come out. don bacon is a good example. >> the thing i found interesting was kevin mccarthy again, without seeing th diamond, without hearing the case, he's decided by congress will hold the manhattan da accountable for what he call an unprecedented abuse o power. now i think that's weird tha congress would do that with th da before hearing the case i think it's weird that they would be talking that way abou unelected ea without actua allegations that is gone through some sort of process but what's more interestin about this whole thing, is the degree to which they don't hav any power to do that you have to have all o congress together to d something about the manhatta da >> yeah this is just fodde from the newspaper i think in many of these cases this is directed at one person picking up the newspaper i mar-a-lago, reading it through and saying the people that are supporting him, and bein comfortable with the fact that okay, donald trump saw that came out and said we shoul investigate it it's not about whether or no it can be done people don't look into that wh are following donald trump and are supporting him i'd imagine donald trump doesn't even look into it. i do think this is about havin him know that we have your back, and until that breaks, and until -- obviously we're gonna see more indictments. but until that happens, i woul imagine this is going to be th unison song of members of th house. and he's a leader of the house >> i got on where you are. but whatever i talk to your in california, it is very early i the morning, cypress sheet you joining us as always my ol friend michael shure is an independen journalist joining me now is -- for the southern district of new york, also with us, kristi green, or who served for over decade in the office of u.s. attorney for the f, the fdny most recently as deputy chie of the criminal division, good to see both of you, thank yo for being with us. >> good morning. >> you've both been involved i extremely high profile cases junior in the governor cuomo case, talk to me please abou the notoriety here what effect does the fact that this is, for better or worse, celebrity person being indicted? >> i read it should make a difference in the way that you approach the case. what you do is, you make sur everything is done by the book >> right because they're such a microscope >> i should be done with every case, big or small but where cases that will be looked at, getting media tension, this is you know, the case that will get the mos attention. as far as we remember. you're gonna make sure all eye are dotted, all the t's ar crossed. >> you think that's being done because alvin bragg is under a microscope here. he's being accused by everybod of pretty much everything. though no actual accusations nothing that would go throug judicial review. >> no it appears he is following the letter of the law, and doing things by the book his letter response to members of congress, who are seeking t get information about hi investigation, i thought tha was an incredibly professional letter, saying you don't hav jurisdiction i'm doing the work, my team is doing the work, we have criminal investigation that we need to maintain, and keep secret and we're not going to allow interference from th politicians, from media. we're gonna just keep our head down, and do the work. >> in fairness, there's a judg involved, who gets t adjudicate these things. kyle trump is already done exactly what you'd expec donald trump to do he's gone and undermined the judge, in this in the trum organization trial who he says hates him. >> yeah, judges will approac at the same way. this by all accounts was a professional judge who handled it very professionally the las time around. they're also used to the kin of attacks unfortunately tha he seeing. they're also used to makin sure that high profile i bigger cases are handled especially well. >> does this judge have to d anything by virtue of the fact that he oversaw a case in whic trump's company wa unsuccessful >> he certainly familiar wit the players involved he's a person who set alle weissenberg in connection with that case. he has familiarity wit organization but really, the judge is gonna be looking at the evidence i this for two killer case, an evaluating that evidence >> there may be a role for allen weissenberg for this trial. as the money guy does the fact that judge convicted him, or wilson charg of the proceeding that convicted him relevant here? >> it's relevant in the sens that, it's a reason of going t that judge, it's because it's related case but that's not uncommon for judge to know some of th underlying facts because of an existing case. it's not relevant in the sense that it's inappropriate in any way. it's actually quite common for a judge to have some knowledge about the case, because they handled a related one. >> one of our producers lisa rubin who practices law an observation the other day, sai trump is now talking about thi prosecution as electio interference now in the face of, it it's. not from a legal perspective it's not, but as we're jus discussing with michael short, that may be a political thin that is meant to make people see the outcome of this tria is illegitimate no matter what >> look at this investigatio has been pending for quite som time well before he announced his candidacy. he is gonna have to have a rea uphill battle in trying to say that this was in any way politically motivated. or that is being done to break down his candidacy >> there is a practice and policy within the department o justice. if you're handling a case when investigation could impact a upcoming election, we need t do it, need to take action sufficiently in advance have a election and not doing anything in th lead up. because you don't want t impact elections although our federal electio cycle runs for so long, we'r still quite a bit away from -- >> the au sable of confidence, given how long these trial take, that it won't bleed into closely? >> i think it will unfortunate because of how lon these election cycles run, and how long cases and trials go criminal cases could go before they go to trial, it's unfortunately probably gonna run into >> look, most of the electio democracies, the electio period is described. you know the 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[ chuckling ] >> back with me, june cam, service the actor united state attorney for the souther district of new york for march 2017 to january 2018, christie greenberg, who served as deput chief of the criminal division of the u.s. attorney's offic for the southern district of new york thank you for staying with me. kristie, let me ask you, wha you've gleaned in the last 24, 48 hours about the charges and what's likely to happen? because it seems like there ar multiple charges, and many o most of them are misdemeanors, but there may be a felon charge involved here somehow >> right, there's been reporting that there are anywhere from two dozen to 3 counts in the indictment so what i would expect i would expect one of those counts t be a conspiracy count. that really allows the prosecutor to tell the story to be able to say, here's what the criminal scheme was. and here is how donald trump fit into that. he is the person directing others to engage in criminal conduct. also allows them, they don't have to send out the motive, but here would be a way fo them to set forth who is the one who is getting the benefit from all of this and that was donald trump to win the election it also allows them to set forth max where they can g towards proving the intent t defraud. and if it's a felony, you also need to show intent to further or conceal another crime so setting this fourth as conspiracy allows them to se the stage and really do that provide more information also expect that there's gonna be substantive counts. so you could charge each falsified business record as its own count. so you have the checks fro donald trump to michael cohen. those could be each check coul be its own account you also have the correspondin entries in the trump organization business records. where they're listed as lega expenses, which of course, that's false, we know they weren't. each of those entries coul also be its own falsifie business record count. so again, those would be misdemeanor counts, unless you are able to connect it to this further concealing of anothe crime. what could those be? that's a 64,000 dollar question, we don't know. we'll be federal, will it be state. there is reporting that it could be campaign finance law, it could be election law, it could be tax law you know we just don't have th visibility to know what that will look like >> which might make this judge who has been put in charge o this relevant. because this idea of different kinds of entries in your books your two kinds of books, that' something that is been pursued by the course with respect t the trump organization, and is still being pursued by the new york attorney general, letitia james. these things are connected the whole story of how the trump organization and weisselberg and everybody operated it migh be relevant to telling the story. >> the judge is gonna be ver relevant going forward i think you're gonna see thi play out in two stages he's going to show up for hi arraignment, and then there' going to be a schedule set the schedules gonna firs involve legal briefing, an motions. that's when the judge is gonna be very important. i'm sure that there will be an number of motions to dismiss the indictment, for a number o reasons, to move the venue and that motion, those motions are gonna be decided by th judge before it gets to a jury until the judge is gonna play very significant role in sayin as a legal matter these charge are appropriate. there's been a lot of talk it's all speculation, but th talk about this bein unprecedented pattern. those things will be litigated in court as a legal matter the judge will decide that, an then the indictment, and the charges, that survives those attacks, they'll go to a jury. and so, i think you're right to note that this judge is gonna play a big role. >> right to the extent that he doesn't have to keep on access asking wait explain this to me, thi is complicated i guess the trick is how you make this easy for a jury. because these white-collar cases tend to be a little hard sometimes for folks to understand thanks again to both of you fo being here we always appreciate you, we'r gonna need to hear a lot june, kim christy reiber nbc's learned that donald trum is heading to new york cit monday night before heading back to the airport to fly to florida. optics were gonna try and make sense on what is motivatin trump right now and someone wh has reported on the presiden for over three decades so it's decided, we'll park even deeper into parking spaces so people think they're open. surprise. 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>> oh, donald believes, firs of all, that he should b president. there is no one else qualified to do so he really believes that, h believes he is the person of the whole world. he should probably around th whole world. he is running again because he believes he will get back in the white house. now, i just did a piece of thi report showing he had a really small crowd. something almost every journalist there misse entirely even the one who did only di it generally but, donald believes h deserves to be president he is entitled to be president and, for the more he should be president for life and, then, he also believes is president he should be able to do anything he wants so, however he wanted to gai power is fine with donald. he does not have an issue abou that the problem for him is that he does not recognize that hi support is shriveling. >> let's talk about his support, you and i talked about this on thursday but i want to rea this out to the viewer, ca donald trump continue ha success in persuading thousand of followers to fill the capital. will they break into mor government buildings and use force to prevent any prosecutions of their hero i think not, such a failur would show that his once powerful hold has waned. relentless is shriveling towar impotence. interestingly enough danya placement were all told to sho up in uniform on friday mornin but there was no thing, ther is not apparently anything that does not mean there wil not be random acts of violence across the united states what was surprising was before you and i were on air together on thursday night. tucker carlson had said on his show and response to a guest saying that republicans should be very worried. he said this is not the time for you to be giving up your ar-15s so, i am worried that there is some effort to feel arme resistance or violen resistance >> there will be blood, they'r going to be people who believe donald trump's nonsense an think he is a demagogue or a god. they are going to commit som violent acts, but you are no going to see mass insurrection the way we did on january 6th. there is lots of study that ha been done, but i have run on revolutions. revolutions are led by highl educated people. fidel castro was a lawyer. and by young men who conclud that the known future is s horrible day will go with an unknown future that is not the condition in america. the people who stormed the capitol were in their late twenties, 30s, 40s, 50s. they were not young man. and, now they have seen ho seriously those crimes are being prosecuted it is highl unlikely trump could get peopl to replicate that kind o behavior on the other hand, look at the republican leaders who are financing and anti-law and order message, attacking the legitimacy of a routin criminal investigation that is being carried out by prosecutors, detectives, and a grand jury this is a stunning and important development, thi abandonment of the rule of law by people who should kno better kevin mccarthy, our timi speaker. senator graham from sout carolina who, you know, eight years ago is telling us donald trump was a cook, which he is. >> david, good to see you as always david cay johnston is pulitzer prize-winning investigative journalist and author of the big cheat, how donald trump least america enriched himself and his family. all right, moments ago nbc new captured video of trump' motorcade leaving mar-a-lago i florida. a short time later he around another one of his properties. trump international golf cours in west palm beach my gue hsse is out for a day we will be right back. check. psych! really? 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and midwest last night leaving at least ten people dead and dozens more injured. right now more than 100 to 500 customers are without powe across illinois, indiana, an arkansas according to power outage do u.s. arkansas governor sara huckabee sanders says centra arkansas suffered significan damage as video shows downed power lines toppled trees an mangled homes. joining me now is nbc news correspondent emily cannon who is in little rock, arkansas. emily, little rock was a place that was also hit. which is interesting because i is a place with very solid urban infrastructure and, yet there is a great deal of damage in the city you ar in >> yes, absolutely, there is evidence of the sheer force of the storm. just about everywhere you go i this part of little rock behind me, that is a row o storefronts. all of that completely blown in and, keep in mind that is wher a lot of people ran to tak shelter as the tornado sub through this area. so, it is plain to see where some of the injuries stemmed from people described compared th fourth of the storm with the force that it could just lif up and tossed cars like toys that is what you are sayin right here this car just completely flipped over onto another car. ali, actually, when this tornado was coming through her our crew is just about ten minutes away from this point and then it's a matter matte minutes way. we heard the tornado siren blaring throughout the afternoon. this area saw back-to-back tornado warnings here in the county officials are reporting more than 15 people were hospitalized since the storm, that number a anticipated to continue to ris as search and rescue efforts continue this morning. one person tragically killed i this area. if you look east closer to arkansas some even mor dramatic pictures there. major roadways still closed, neighborhoods just completel leveled. the governor of arkansas reporting two people wer killed, there. she has declared a state o emergency. again, the search and rescue mode 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attention to on particularly dangerous trope that has emerged from the righ wing attacks against brag, i you have been following th republican outrage machine including many elected republicans who have probabl already heard about th conspiracy theory that bragg was handpicked and funded by the jewish billionaire georg soros, in fact, bragg wa elected by voters in new yor county in 2021 it is well-documented that soares never gave any mone directly to brag he donated to a politica action committee that supporte progressive candidates seeking to be prosecutors, and tha group did include brag, bu that is too nuanced for th folks that are trying to stoke fear and doubting our judicial system it is not announcement that th right-wing is trying to ti alvin bragg to george soro specifically, conservative years of george soros as a bogeyman in steeped in racis conspiracy tropes. meant to stoke fear among whit conservatives that rich jewish overlords secretly control things behind the scenes the banks, the media, hollywood, and now the courts these racist, deplorable conspiracy theories have a lon history in this country an around the world but, it has been remarkable to watch how quickly this lates racist conspiracy theory attempting to tie george soros to alvin bragg and trump's prosecution has taken over the narrative on the right, it has been spread in conservativ media and even, as i mentioned by prominent members of the go like congressman paul paul gosar, ronny jackson, senators marsha blackburn, ron johnson, rick scott, ron desantis these are conspiracies which were once fringe and are now unfortunately very mainstream. joining me now is a senior reporter for nbc news wh covers disinformation, extremism, and the internet. and, lawn hill yeah down i florida near trump's mar-a-lag resort, thank you for bein with us. let me start with you becaus you often troll the underbelly of the internet to find thes unusual conspiracy theorie with what most of us never confront but, this one was actually out there. this source picked, soro backed alvin bragg's coverin two racist things in one >> yes, so, like you sai george soros and the invocatio of ham is just a really trie and true tactic. people put the blame on him fo everything under the sun really, and it does tap into that antisemitic conspirac theory that jewish people ar controlling the world. a theory that, for what it's worth, marjorie taylor greene' right on her facebook page and videos for a blog she wrote on i just did a little look bac and i actually just wanted t see what people have blame sorest for recently, and i found examples from the migran caravan that was the bogeyma in 2018. he was blamed for that here is planned for the high school student gun protest after their schools were sho up in florida. rudy giuliani blamed soares fo not being able to get out of ukraine in 2019. and, trump said that source wa behind the anti-kavanaug nomination i worked for fox news in the early arts and i still remembe that glenn back had a program. he would bring out this bi blackboard and have these craz conspiracy theories spun up. and at the top of the pyramid, always, was george soros he had a special called george soros, the puppet master which, again, it is antisemiti tropes you are right, it is not new but it does have rea consequences this kind of language vilifies the jewish community we have seen direct, targete threats in the jewis community. in 2018 or 2019 we had a guy sent pipe arms to news organizations and george soros this kind of rhetoric can en in violence. >> ivan, when you and i were together on thursday night w were reminiscing about some of the trips you have taken whe you are out there, talking on very regular basis on the last few years to trump supporters. you are talking with the degrade risk even last weekend in waco, texas this conspiracy theory stuff is embraced the idea idea that donal trump's adventure, and justice and retribution some of thes followers really believe there is some kind of a war coming from the establishment and donald trump is their warrio who will stand between the government and them. >> right, and it is because th right wing elements of the internet are full of these conspiracy theories. but, it is also legitimized in their eyes by the right-wing outlets that they watch. not only fox news but also oan news net, right side broadcasting and then, they are propagate by donald trump. and, not only do we hear these in waco. but, i think brandi brought up the good point i can 2018 and those weeks before the 2018 midter elections it was the idea of the caravan. george soros was somehow behin the funding of this caravan to take over as part of the great replacement. all of these conspiracies ar intertwined with one another and, the latest attack that he is on is also against th judge. who has been placed in charg of overseeing his case making direct attack suggesting that this judge is hater who hates trump. and that this isn't fair trial it is hard not to go back to 2016 we remember the judge who wa the federal district judge i the southern district of california who is tasked with overseein the trump university fraud case and, at the time trump had suggested that, again, muc like we are hearing at the attacks against estrogen new york that he was a hater o trump. he mentioned his mexican dissent. and, as donald trump was calling for the building of th wall these are messages that we hea from voters constantly that he can't get a fair shake these judges are not fair. but, time and again ultimately in that trump university cas donald trump settled for $25 million. he paid out $25 million to former students. we saw attacks against the likes of robert mueller, it wa not until after the muelle report came out he declared he was vindicated he doesn't attack on the front end, spreads conspirac theories among his millions of supporters to delegitimized if he were to be held or found guilty. or they found 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>> right, so far we have onl seen a couple dozen folks over the course of the last days of outside of mar-a-lago. they have not seemed like great threat, they tell us there there are more to part and rally around him than to protest, per se. i think the concern is obviously it is one of potential attacks. individuals who are inspired b donald trump who even before the indictment there was a suggestion there could be quote, potential death or destruction if you were to be charged year of turmoil, chaos, and hatred. all of those in his own word before the indictment. we have seen a history o individuals that have gone o the attack you have the likes of the ma who went and attacked the fb field office in ohio las august after the search warran was executed here at mar-a-lago you have than last november th man who broke into the home of the pelosi's and attacked mr pelosi with a hammer they are clearly individuals who have shown a willingness t act on hundreds of threats according to the distric charges office that have already come out it is important to note th gist of position in lowe manhattan, you have th manhattan district attorney' office literally across th street from the criminal court building where we anticipate the former president to call for hi arraignment, here. for donald trump this is a lot coming to a head he has shown the need to try t aggravate the base and suggest that this is the end they cannot take it anymore. just late last night he ha suggested how much more ar patriots supposed to take? of course, that is a clear suggestion that the way that things are currently happening cannot continue. of course, last year it was th former president who suggested there should be a terminatio of the rules within th constitution i think we are going int uncharted territory right now. >> thank you both, we will continue to follow this, nbc's brandy zadrozny and von hillie in mar-a-lago. we have much more coming up on velshi when it means that some trum is trying to convince th electorate of the fact that he is being prosecuted constitute election interference. and, an update on th widespread damage across southern and midwestern states following yet another wave o deadly tornadoes overnight another hour of velshi begins, right now. >> good morning, saturday apri 1st at 10 am eastern 7 am on the last i am ali velshi and this wee marked a leather inflectio point for the name of ou democracy. donald trump, the rock politician kherson how made it into the white house with zero palaces political experience a lady disgrace is the first president to be impeached twic while in office. is now the first current o former president to be criminally indicted in u.s history. nbc news has learned that hi indictment includes about 30 charges related to documen fraud. classified as misdemeanors the associated press i reporting that according to it sources trump has also faced a least one felony charg stemming from the manhatta district attorney alvin bragg' investigation. of the former presidents rol in the hush money payment, mad to the former adult film actress stormy daniels with whom he allegedly had a affair donald trump does deny that he had that affair. but, in a new interview with the london-based times radio that aired yesterday daniels said she is not afraid and she hopes to be called to testif against trump. trump's indictment is expected to remain sealed tuesday afternoon is scheduled to turn himself in to be formall arraigned out of manhattan courthouse while there he will be fingerprinted, processed, an have charges right to him. judge -- who will oversee the case, coincidentally the same judg who presided over the trum organization's criminal ta fraud trial late last ye