kids have been experiencing in this school amounts to civil rights and their kids hearing racial slurs consistently at school or classmates online and students who are year or gay describing a culture of harassment in the schools and targeted on social media, anyone who listened to the podcast will remember an episode that dives very deeply into one student's experience with this. so we have consistently heard parents describe what's happened in that district as a violation of civil rights and so, in some ways, this was a step that didn't necessarily surprise mike and me. >> you and mike have spent a lot of time there and you haven't had a chance to spend time in all towns. to what degree do you think what is going on in southlake is a microcosm of what's going on in other schools. >> in terms of what's happening