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The latest on the fierce storms that struck overnight in mississippi, killing at least 23 people. The trouble with trump, as his legal setbacks mount new concerns about Donald Trumps warning of death and destruction. And his First Official Campaign Rally in waco, texas. 30 years after they branched oven in red. Joe has, visit Marjorie Taylor greene made with insurrectionist. Ill get the inside scoop from one of the only two democrats on that tour. Congresswoman jasmine, caucus im jonathan capehart, this is a special hour of The Saturday Show. Katie fang is off this weekend. We begin this saturday with Breaking News and an update on the devastating tornado and wind storm that swept through mississippi overnight. The Monroe County coroner told nbc news that at least 23 people are dead, including a father, and his little girl. His wife and two other children were reportedly taken to an area hospital. Mississippian regency Management Agency Officials Say Search And Rescue resources and other health are being salt to the entry area, and fema is monitoring the situation. More than 100,000 americans across tennessee, mississippi, and alabama are in the dark this morning, as Utility Companies raid to restore power from donald. Well bring you more as details emerge. Meanwhile, the legal walls are closing in on donald trump from every angle. Yesterday trump attorney Evan Corcoran appeared before a Federal Grand Jury investigating trumps handling of classified documents for three and a half hours. Federal judge also ruled against trumps attempt to block his aides, including former chief of staff, mark meadows, from testifying before the grand jury investigating the january six insurrection. But the legal pressure doesnt stop there. The grand jury in the manhattan Hush Money Probe against the former president is expected to reconvene on monday. The fbi and nypd are currently investigating a letter containing a death threat, and white powder that manhattan da alvin bragg received. And although not explicitly conducted, the letter was received hours after trump warned of quote, potential death and destruction, if he is indicted. That incendiary rhetoric could be a preview of what we may hear from trump tonight. And his first come official Campaign Rally in waco, texas. Ron hilliard, whos traveling to waco texas, joins me now from west palm beach. Ron, thank you so much for being. Here has donald trump or his campaign had any response to the ruling that his former aide must have to run the january six probe . Hey good morning, jonathan. Yes this is a significant development. Donald trump nor his campaign have responded at this time yet. We expect them to appeal the ruling here by the federal judge. Were talking about, not only mark meadowss chief of staff, but also his former director of national intelligence, his former National Security adviser. Several formal aides that were Significant Players and were around donald trump in those weeks leading up to the january 6th attack on the capital here. But what the judges ruling says is that it follows the president s from when the Supreme Court unanimously ruled the Richard Nixon much turnover multiple recordings, its determining that when a potential crime is believed to have taken place, an Executive Privilege is by able to prevail over the necessity of complying with a subpoena and turning over relative documents and testify. Thats what is playing out here in the courts right now. Ultimately its a matter of what with these individuals testify and with the Special Counsel, jack smith investigation, notably donald trump just 40 hours ago called for the removal of Special Counsel jack smith, of course that would require the Department Of Justice to buy it. Were looking at an interesting week ahead. And rock, one more thing, explain the significance of Trump Holding his first rally in waco, texas, and what can we expect . Right, the campaigns been consistent. I just want to read your statement here in a moment from them. Its hard, we shouldnt lose sight for 30 years ago over a 51 a day standoff between federal agents and then branched vivians quote, this is march the 30th Anniversary. The campaign has suggested that they picked waco mount because it marks the anniversary of what some of the farright can tended was a fight against government overreach, but instead that this was selected because it was in the middle of four major texas metropolitan cities. Theyre hoping to have 10, 000, 15,000 people here at this rally this afternoon, when donald, trump of course will make these investigations are key facet of that key onstage, as hes trying to push back against the federal investigation and on him. Nbcs Vaughn Hillyard coming in from west palm beach. Thank you very much for coming to the show. Now to the latest on capitol hill. Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor greene led a delegation of Republican House lawmakers on a tour of a d. C. Jail yesterday, where some of the january six defendants are being held. Two democrats also join the group. Nbc news Congressional Correspondent Julie Tsirkin joins me now from washington d. C. With more on this story. Good morning, julie. What have you heard about this tour what are the differences between the descriptions of the jail by republican and by democrats . Oh theyre like two completely different visits to the same exact jail. And, look this is what happened when a publicans and control the house. And when woman Marjorie Taylor greene is back on powerful committees like the oversight committee. Less than a handful of the hard right, of the Republican Party. These are people including an appointment of Freshman Member and epa another member who joined her there, they visited the struggle which includes just a few of the defendants from january six who are awaiting trial, who have been deemed by a judge as a flight risk, or as risk for safety to the community. There is weather being held in this jail. Take a listen to what Marjorie Taylor greene had to say about why she visited this particular jail, watch. Now for two years we have heard the story from the people on the generous experimenting. We have heard the story about how it was an insurrection. What a mortality right now, it was mom and insurrection. That was so that you heard, by the way it was a protester actually whistling the entire length of the press conference. She says, look this wasnt an insurrection, obviously. We know that it was, and building on that day. And look at the January 6th Select Committee For Two and a half years laying out evidence, waiting to be charged in connection with the wrights allnighter. That was her view, but look, when you look at democrats there were two lawmakers, members of the Oversight Panel which here on january 6th, who went along for the jail visit. Take a listen to what one of, them robert garcia, had to say and i know youll speak to the other one very soon. We were, there we saw the insurrectionists attack a capitol. These are folks callous nonpartisan shine to overthrow democracy. To be there was difficult. And the worst part about it was when you actually saw the republicans rushed to them like they were some putting them on the back you know interacting with the these are folks that show no remorse, these are people that are being treated quite fairly. Two very different descriptions of their visit with a grain saying that these defendants were being treated poorly and with garcia clearly being treated like celebrities by Marjorie Taylor greene and these republicans. Nbcs Julie Tsirkin, thank you very much for that report. And later in this hour ill be joined by congresswoman jasmine crockett, one of the two democrats on that d. C. Jail visit to get her take on the tour. Now to the other developing news outside the United States, President Biden said the United States would respond forcefully to protect its personnel following its decision to order counterstrikes against iranian Killing Targets in syria. This week, to drums that u. S. Officials believe are of iranian origin struck two separate u. S. Military bases. One of the strikes killed a u. S. Contractor and wounded six other americans in syria. Nbc news correspondent, molly hunter joins me now. Molly, whats the latest on this developing situation . Jonathan, good morning to you, look its really a fast evolving situation since that initial attack. We do have new reporting from our colleague this morning about the two additional attacks on u. S. Coalition bases on friday. Im just looking down because she has just reported new information, they timings according to a u. S. Official, we now know that multiple rockets targeted Mission Support site in cannot. Cohen or the eastern city, in northeastern syria, excuse, me a drink in this one than just about an hour later, three Unmanned Aerial Vehicles targeted a green village, its a u. S. Insulation in that area. Two were shot, and we understand one damaged a building. There has not been, jonathan, additional u. S. Retaliation since thursday. Particulars into the pentagon spokesperson from yesterday. We will always reserve the right to respond appropriately if our forces are threatened. We dont see conflict or war with iran. Our focus on here is only during the fetal vices. Often, you hear from the spokesperson could, you heard from President Biden as well, the u. S. Is not seeking to escalate a direct confrontation with iran at this point. They are very clear that they believe iran is behind these attacks specifically, the Iran Revolutionary guard or. But they dont risk is getting something wider and something bigger. We do have a statement from prolonging forces. Saying they have quote, a long arm to retaliate against any u. S. Airstrikes, jonathan. And mrs. , molly hunter. Thank you very much for that report. Up next, a federal judge has ruled key top Trump Officials must testify before a grand jury, meaning it is time the walls are really closing in on the former president. After the break, well discuss why donald trump should be afraid, very frayed. Dont go away anywhere. Thank you like your Workplace Benefits and retirement savings. With voya, considering all your financial choices together. Can help you make smarter decisions. 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So in other words the people who know where the bodies are buried, theyre all being called in to testify. Allegedly know where the bodies are buried, of course. Joining me now Glenn Kirschner former federal prosecutor, msnbc legal analyst and host of the podcast, justice matters. Glenn, always great to see, you given the witnesses and their proximity to donald trump, on january six can we assume that donald trump is the ultimate target for johnson . You know he seems to be one of the only people who hasnt been subpoenaed and i would hasten to add, jonathan, we ordinarily dont Subpoena Targets because thats the person were intending to indict thats the person about whom we have all of the incriminating evidence. So of course they would have a Fifth Amendment right against self information. Of course lots of the other folks that you just named also may have a Fifth Amendment right and cause sultan commission. Certainly, mark meadows comes to mind. Danny scavino comes to mind, remember, they were both i referred to prosecution by the general six committee, by congress, of course. Doj never did prosecute that. But thats an easy donna points to argue that they clearly have a Fifth Amendment right against self incrimination. But, jonathan yue sudden the lead in the walls are closing in on donald trump, undeniably that is true. It looks like the walls are just about touching at this point. It should be nice to see some indictments pop out from beneath those walls. The one person i didnt mention is mike pence, the former Vice President , how might this impact his fight against testifying . Oh he will lose. Mike pence will see the inside of a grandeur room, and he will testify. The Executive Privilege is basically gone at this point. The court has ruled, over and, over again dating back to Richard Nixons time that Executive Privilege will yield when you are investigating significant crimes before the grand jury. And mike pence can say hes a legislator all he wants, because on january six. He is president of the senate presiding over the ceremonial opening of the envelopes the Electoral College vote. It doesnt make him a legislator. And think about this, jonathan. Lindsey graham, who actually is a legislator, for better or worse, he is a member of congress. He tried to avoid testifying before a grand jury by claiming speech or debate clause privilege, every job up to including a Supreme Court said, lindsey, thats not the way works, go into the grandeur in georgia testify about everything that doesnt involve speech or debate clause privilege, and if a question or two arises that does implicate that privilege, you can go ahead and assert it. Mike pences Privilege Claims will fail, he will testify and he has sharply incriminating evidence against donald trump. Mom glad you bought up the Supreme Court because trump probably going to try to push the situation to the Supreme Court. Whats the likelihood that justices would step in. Is it common for doj to try to break attorneyclient privilege . It is not all that common. It is actually pretty rare, jonathan, that we will subpoena the Criminal Defense Attorney representing the target of the grand jury investigation. Why . Because that person will order they really have a robust Attorney Client privilege to assert. But, when it looks like the client, in this case donald trump, is using the attorney whether willingly, or one willingly or, the attorney in