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tennessee house republican expelled to black democrats fo protesting gun deaths as the governor promises to pardo nine who kill the black live protest are. in the exonerated five crimina defendants from. a closer look at the gop - is providing yacht trips t justice thomas and his artifac collection that evening if you've been watching this show since we launched over tw years ago, you know the core enterprise of this program has been to sound the alarm on the threats to american democracy. and to underscore had the gran old republican party constitutes the greatest threa of all this week, we've got fou stories illustrate exactly that, indeed, we are sadly spoiled for choice let's start in tennessee where it man accused of molestin multiple young girls was ouste from the state legislature wait, no he wasn't back in 2019, after thos allegations came to light, the republican's the point to lead the education subcommittee this week, the tennessee gop expelled to like democrats fro participating in a protest against gun laws in the wake o the massacre of six people and three kids in a school i nashville. apparently, the mere act o civil disobedience brought such, quote, disorder and dishonor t the house of representatives that they were deemed no wonde free to serve in public office curiously, the white democrati lawmaker who protested alongside them spared from expulsion. wait, she herself says that sh was not expelled because she i white. explosions, just one act of th autocratic overreach on friday, a local fox affiliate reported the gop i nashville is threatening t freeze millions of dollars for memphis. if that city sends one of thos after lawmakers back to th status, those are some great a mob tactics that made do corleone blush will they be sending a horse's head for good measure? justin pierson put it best >> this is what you happen when you lose democracy. this is what we are fighting against and must stand u against. here's the starting intensity, but wouldn't start here. >> let's hopscotch over to texas, specifically austin, we are saturday, governor gre abbott stated that he woul pardon when daniel perry, th man convicted on friday of the murder of aaron foster effect that perry was foun guilty by a jury of his peers, red blood, it -- that mattered little they are other things that upset eventually played a role in the governor's calculus was the number one, flexes tiger carson who had been a hero for white supremacists going t champion the cause and the reality that he migh be getting a pardon from the republican, not because of the self-defense article they di not win a trial, but maybe because he killed the righ kind of person it's not the first time they'v gone to bed for black live protesters let's stay in texas to pivot from austin to amarillo wher i'm sure they heard th district judge appointed b donald trump, overturning th fda's decades old approval here is this gentlemen, matthe chasm eric who, yes, clinton galaxy brain conclusion that h -- no scientific background whatsoever, knew better than t abide by 20 years of sound and settled science. a trump judge decided this wee in a medication, treatment approved and deemed safe, -- it's now not permissible sorry, you're little late to this party it's one thing less than a hour, and legal scholar sinc he has no authority to give, and goes against publi opinion. another federal judge, thi time in washington state issued a ruling. we are off to the races, but more specifically, after the trump-stacked supreme court, where we already know that a least one of the justices will sign with casimir, because he' a man of principle a tried and true originalist this is our fourth story if it's just somebody you ca influence with a few luxur vacations. you see, are fourth and fina story of no this week concerns some damning reporting fro republica, clarence thomas, fo decades now, as accepted expensive trips, lavish trip from hartman pro, go megadonor. he's done so without disclosin them, in what is called a clea violation of the rules of course, a condensed thoma is also the justice you refuse to recuse himself from trump related cases, despite his wif basically supporting his trump -- and who is holland coil? of course, amid inherited th real estate fortune. he's quite the collector, as the dallas morning new reported in 2014 crows library is adorned wit priceless artifacts from eisenhower's five star helmet, to the deed for the moun vernon estate in washington. he also happens to have an audit craft copy of mein kampf and hitler's place settings an linens some people collect -- others fork over millions of dollars for nazi relics they were caressed by a hitle himself. teach their own. a big digging further into the third reich memorabilia late this show, which he says i only about preserving history. what i want to emphasize is th theme that binds all of thes for stories. from tennessee republicans expelling their progressiv counterparts, to the texas governor obliterating -- and trying to parted a right-wing killer. and the judge taking it upon himself to a supreme court justice ignoring basic judicia ethics the american conservativ movement has all but completel abandoned the norms -- in these are four separate stories. the one story of lawlessness brute authoritarianism this week was a reminder tha if you're a black lawmaker where a woman in need of medication, don't expect conservatives to give a da about you. do you know what we shouldn't be surprised. as the old saying goes conservatism consists of jus one proposition, they must b in groups, but that does not bind alongside our groups. director of democracy policy and the individual product the senior executive editor of bloomberg, and msnbc political analyst, author of go back t where you came, from and i daily beast columnist. thanks for joining me. let's start with you, what did you make of the tennesse expulsion that was this, wee and the threats from gop t freeze millions in funding i their districts are to sen them back? >> i, for, one i'm glad that the heads are off in america we can finally see what we'r dealing with for many years, increasingly radicalized and weaponize th democratic movement, puzzlin is the gop an exchange, those two young lawmakers it's one of thos things where you want to giv advice to the tennesse republicans, you're being a bi too on the nose. decent more subtle expel all three. we want to show the racism only the two back bin and keep the white woman. you can tell in the exchange how they wanted to show them boy, how they want to tell you some other words they're so angry at these tw uppity black men, and able t lead a peaceful protest outsid of the chambers. why did they leave that protest? i want people to keep th focus. six people were killed las week, three in nashville, an tennessee republican said that we're not going to do anything on to keep the focus on that these two lawmakers said tha we want to represent the people, we want to be pro-life, pr children, and tennesse republicans are like, no protests, pro mass shootings what you're witnessing is return to reconstruction where if local cities have the law enforcement, if they the elected officials, if they hav the money, they don't have t follow the law they will follow the law o white rule, my mom and white violence that's what you're seeing in tennessee and in texas >> megan, paul and prose naz memorabilia might be the mos enticing option to come -- the most significant revelatio if you take a step back is tha we have a justice on the supreme court who is effectively using go billionaires like human slot machines >> that's right. i think that you can ask for a better illustration of everything that's wrong with the supreme court in one story into story about corruption, obviously. might not be a quid pro qu situation, i think that they probably generally agree o most ideological issues, but this is highly corrupt it's a network of very wealthy right-wing donors that wine an dine with supreme cour justices, donate money to ge these guys confirmed in th first place. somebody, we still don't kno who, spent $27 million to ge neil worse it confirmed to the supreme court. we don't know who did it because for one, the supreme court does not have to follo an ethics code like the rest o the federal judiciary does and to, dark money wil influence the outcome of a supreme court nomination without any of us knowing who' behind it. here we have placed on this of of this scandal he didn' recuse himself involving his wife activity on january 6th and now taking private jets an sealing around and private yachts with one of the richest man in the country. we have no idea what busines he has in front of the supreme court, and even if he doesn't, he's got interests in front of the supreme court. his interests are maintainin power for the corporate wealth elite, which he is one and clearly, he's got a friend on the court that agrees wit him on that point. >> i'm just shocked that clarence thomas might not have been - in rvs, walmart parking lots apparently he likes a yach trip as well megan, i just want to ask you, take a look at this tweet from professor steve >> he says whe the majority has been appointe by democratic presidents, 1969 where we hadn't walked on th moon by my count we've had four democratic presidents, and yet for 50 years, republicans have control disappearing court at what point do they say in the name of democracy we'r going to balance the supreme court? >> >> they should say righ now. i think it's not just th ethical problems one of the reasons that this situation, these big protest are happening in tennessee our gun laws are a mess in thi country. it was true even before th decision of the supreme court. but now we're in a situation even with our state were gonna say, we want a bad ar-15s, w want to ban other types of weapons or schools or whatever the supreme court. with clarence thomas leading the charge is probably not going to allow it unless w make major, major changes to the makeup of the suprem court. i know some democrats have bee saying, well, we don't want to turn this into a circus that the american people are paying attention to the supreme court they want big changes. the one ethics reform, the want the court to be fai arbiters of justice and th law. you don't need to look further than wisconsin to see that people do care about the cours of understanding how the court impact their lives it's not a circus to hold th supreme court accountable. >> i'm talking of services when i talk after the brea about the abortion dru decision by another right-wing judge in taxes but before we get to that,, ti i spoke at my monologue abou if daniel perry gets pardone from murder in texas, it'l only be because he killed th right kind of person, th person that right wingers don' care about, a black live matter protester am i being unfair. how grotesque is governo abbott's move? he's calling for a - before an appeal is evolved? >> he's essentially saying tha he knows better than a jury. a jury that adjudicated th facts of this matter, whic perry said, the man he shot an killed was approaching his gun and it was self-defense. the other side of the argument was that actually he ran a red light into a group o protesters and shot one of them and the jury ended up, sayin he's a murderer. that was the verdict, greg abbott said no, i as governo have superior power of the rul of law and i'm gonna questio this fine kristalina structure we spent hundreds of years trying to modify and make better. so we get good judgments out o the court system and he's just riding roughshod over the fact. because the gop now is now a party of policy, it's a part of cultural warfare, and racis i think. and they're willing to run roughshod over institutions an order to score political points and it's nothing more that perry added here >> i think we all know, if i had been a black man in the ca who shot a guy at an antiabortion protest governor abbott wouldn't b trying to pardon him right now coming, up stick around, pamela, trump appointed federa judge pulls the use -- medication abortions in th united states. does the gop think this help them we'll discuss after the break. with a majority of my patience with sensitivity, i see irritated gums and weak enamel. sensodyne sensitivity gum & enamel relieves sensitivity, helps restore gum health, and rehardens enamel. i'm a big advocate of recommending things that i know work. so many people are overweight now and asking themselves, i'm a big advocate of "why can't i lose weight?" for most, the reason is insulin resistance, and they don't even know they have it. conventional starvation diets don't address insulin resistance. that's why they don't work. now, there's golo. golo helps with insulin resistance, getting rid of sugar cravings, helps control stress and emotional eating, and losing weight. go to golo.com and see how golo can change your life. >> in a blow to reproductive that's g-o-l-o.com. rights, a trump appointe federal judge in texas announced his long awaited ruling on medication abortio on friday. spending over 20 years of fd approval for mifepristone, one of two drugs used to induc abortion he gave a governmental week to appeal the justice department acted quickly and appeal that same day. meanwhile, another judge i should point out and washington, gave the opposite ruling t protect the status of the drug in the status quo. my panel is back to discuss al of this may, again let's have a listen to what alexandria or castillo cortez said about how she thinks the biden administration should respon to the texas ruling. >> there has been thought, i believe given to this - already issued statements, for example advising what we shoul do in a situation like this. which i concur, i believe th biden administration shoul ignore this ruling i think that the courts have the legitimacy, they rely on the legitimacy of thei rulings. and what they're currently doing is engage in a unprecedented and dramatic erosion of the legitimacy of the courts >> megan, some republicans and some liberals are saying if republican had said that democrats would be up in arms. but aoc is exciting to ignor the judge, even though his ruling is bonkers, he still judge, we can't just ignore. what's your take on all of this? >> my take is that she is right, it's not just this opinion i bonkers, what should've. this but he doesn't actually as far as lawyers know have the authority to pull a drop off the market like that's this has never happened before it's unprecedented for a federal judge to singularl decide to take a medication of of the market. i don't think the fda is required to send in fd officials to start pulling m fist wrote bistro off pharmacy shelves i think that would b ridiculous i think alexandria kratzvill cortez is right, they're onl legitimate so far as the american people trust thei legitimacy and right now we have a federa judiciary who put in the supreme court that do no behave as legitimate members o democratic institutions and so people are losing their fait in those democrati institutions and when you read an opinion a the one from matthew chasm eric, that we saw today. you can see what people ar losing their fate. he wholesale adopt the messaging of the anti-abortion movement it's a love letter relate to the antiabortion movement of what she saw part. he's a long time antiabortio activist when you read something like that, it's easy to lose fait that the courts are fair dealers. >> in terms of overreach, should remind our viewers he's also the judge who insiste that the biden administratio could not drop their immigration policy, remain i mexico policy, which was a bizarre move for a texas judge was deciding states foreig policy and border policies you and i have talked before about how democrats bring in but a knife to a gunfight -- bazooka. aoc isn't one of those democrats, what she's saying i provocative an out they're and she's backed up by ron white. >> i agree with. her flex your power. i hate saying this, but what would republicans do and that's what i want president biden to do. the majority of american support abortions, the majorit of abortions support control what we're doing dealing wit as a radically - wearing black robes now. as we just found, out ar bought off by the updated ji crow harlan crow, who just happen to have nazi member billion is home totally normal taking out lavish $500,000 tha he spends on clarence thomas's wife, ginni thomas's nonprofit. by the, way she gets a six figure salary. when do we have a compromise supreme court, and a compromised judiciary. filled with zealots that don't resent the will of the majority and you have some standing her to flex, represent the majorit of protect rights. i want president biden t flaxen what i've said on your sho before and i've been saying for two years. when democrats flax. when they show strength. when they fight. they're rewarded and if you don't believe me, when president biden blurted out semi fascism, guess what even though there was a lot of pearl clutching from democrats the majority responded what democrats fought fo abortion rights, kitchen table issue, when -- gun control, in tennessee, tennessee of all places. the youth are what them so fight, fight for the people, and show how extreme the gop has become you'll be rewarded politically and you'll have the majority >> i do want to click follow i gotta say, to be fair to highland grove, i noted your jim crow gag we don't know if he's al racist all we know he's got very od choice and memorabilia is. house i'm gonna be doing a deeper dive into naz memorabilia and harlan cro later on in the show a quick follow-up, wisconsin they just wanted in stat supreme court rate, and they ran on abortion rights, this does seem to be a winning issu in a lot of places >> who would've thought. who would've thought the removing about 50 or a constitution protected right would galvanize the majority i think i've been in your show for a year saying this fight. fight. fight. you'll be rewarded look at what happene wisconsin. >>, likely enjoy our guest taking victory laps. take your time tom, the sky, this federal texas judge matthew kacsmaryk, was appointed by then president, donald trump he's a super righ wing judge as meghan pointed out. he said bigoted things in th past he's only 46 years old he's part of this huge cohor of young, right-wing, whit males outlets. that trump appointed to th courts lifetime appointments. and pam, that makes trum whether we like it or not on of the most consequentia presidents in american history these judges will be offic when my grandkids are growin up >> the thing to remember a many as i think has merrick' ruling was, strategically think he simply wanted to pu something in play. that would get to the suprem court, and why, because this supreme court is waging a wa on the notion that the federal government as expertise, and the federal government can b part of solving big national societal problems. if you look back at the ep ruling last july, that essentially wa questioning whether or not the epa can regulate utilities the core question their wives, where it is expertise lie. in the federal government? and the mifepristone rolling it's saying that the fda has new expertise to regulate drug that helps women both exercise their reproductiv rights and to do it in a efficacious unsafe where he says, the coroner's better. i, as a single judge no better i know where the expertise and the science resides. and this is gonna go back to the supreme court. and i'm very concerned that th role on this in the way they did the epa case they're pejorative characterizations, the administrative state, as simpl in oppressive collection o agencies that runner-up shot over american states and american visual rights needs t be reigned in when in fact w have case after case, in which well-trained civil servants in this agency, who know what they're talking about put in policies that are good for public how with, good for civi society, and good for women. south i think this is part of broader role that people reall need to dig their feted an resist because this is the first of a longer battle. >> one former resistance, is you don't have to enforce the, stuff you have no implicatio to enforce we meagan hatcher-mays, on wajahat ali, ten, stick around for about. longer coming up a member of the exonerated five is here to talk to me about the man tha called for him to receive th death penalty as an innocent teenager but, first richard louis her with the headlines good evening, richard. >> good evening, mehdi classified u.s. documents ar recently appeared on socia media are likely real. they say the documents wit detail ukrainian war efforts may have been altered before they were posted the justice department pentago are investigating the source o that potentially pope francis called forpeace in ukraine during his easter sunday remarks from st. peters square the 86-year-old pope i recuperating from bronchitis which recently left hi hospitalized for three days. unless angela, defied school district has approved a labo dealing following a three-da strike in march over wages and staffing this agreemen increases wages by 30% for workers paid an average of $25,000 a year more on the mehdi hasan show after this short break ty, i see irritated gums and weak enamel. sensodyne sensitivity gum & enamel relieves sensitivity, helps restore gum health, and rehardens enamel. i'm a big advocate of recommending things that i know work. need relief for tired, achy feet? 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>> i was thinking about dr martin with the king junior, and the universe is long but i bends towards justice. here i had this long history of really living under the oppression of what the syste represents for us as black and brown people and 30 decades later, give the opportunity to see the ver person who took out a full pag ad calling for our deaths. bring back the death penalty bring back our police. to be brought in the sam courthouse that we wer arraigned in, we were arraigne for a crime we did not commit. and here he is being arraigned for a crimes that the da's office, the grand jury said, w want to prosecute donald trump it's a bittersweet moment -- three decades later, and i'm excited to see what happens. >> tom, on tuesday for the first time, first time we sa donald trump inside a courtroom, even though he's bee projecting this bravado online this closely is told once told the new york times they thin he's putting up front. he's masking his anxiety as someone who's covered fro for decades. what do you think he's going through his mind right now >> of course he's anxious, mehdi, the only other time i his life that he was subject o a criminal investigation was i the early 1970s. when he and his father was sanctioned by the justic department for racia discrimination and the trump organization's housing project in brooklyn and queens after that, he never really ha to face the long arm of th law. this myth has grown that n matter how severely he break the rules are bends the rules, or pushes it, -- but the reality is is that he' never been in this positio before i think he watched his cfo allan weisselberg at per walked in handcuffs, it freake him at he's not someone who set a ounce of sympathy for this kin of an anvil, falling on someon else as, yusef, has a tested to when he took out that ad, i local news - stepping into the middle o this contentious, racially charged incident for no othe reason than to have publicit for himself. needing care about whether o not these young men were getting justice. or what happened to the jogger in the park that night he just wanted attention and the irony in this league a karma fuel is that he's no sitting in that courtroo subject to the same kind o forces and it's early, this is th first battle in a long legal war he's gonna have to win there are much more seriou things coming at him in th state of georgia and possibl from the justice departmen that are going to tie him up for months if not years. i think he's afraid. the problem with that is donal trump is cornered and afraid i a donald trump with racist - and insights violence and i think we're i for a long road ahead. >> that's interesting, tim, yo talk about him incitin violence we see enamel tack the da an now the judge in the judge family yusef, people have pointed out that the jury in your case, th jury was kind of poisoned by those ads. everyone in new york saw those ads influence the outcome of the trial. at that time, he poisoned th legal system against you and in a sense, 30 years later, he's trying to do i again. he's trying to poison again. turn people against the da, th judge, his own people if not a future jury. >> what absolutely, this is travesty of justice when you think about what could happen. when i think about what we represent now, we present th ability to stand the test of time to still be here, use all of the experiences that we've gon through. and be better and not better and use all platforms to reall effect change. when people look at me i particular, they look at a person who's taken this awfu light that they branded us with i'm going to be the voice of those individuals whose voices have been turned down. we need representation in th halls of power, we need someon to take our voices into thos halls. and be the champion of, rsp th servant of the people in those spaces i tell people all the time, go to harlem -- i'm running for city council i want people to know that w represent. hope that we most certainl grow through any thing we go through. and be better for it >> tim, i gotta ask you. you were in a deposition wit trump when he tried to sue you if i remember correctly. and he was under oath, it was disaster, your boy i questioned him under oath. during the deposition. i gotta ask, if he finds himself on the stand, unde oath in this trial what coul we expect, surely know lawye put donald trump on the stand? >> he's every lawyers nerd nightmare, under deposition ar under oath, because he lies, because he exaggerates, becaus he wants to, he thinks sinem category about everything he does he thinks he's the star of his own. show and, so he's always tryin to either or self aggrandized, or survive but he's never even -- strategically. he's full of malice. it's humbling to sit here an listen to the calm, gentleness in yusef savoie's. but when he talks about as lived experience, what he want to do and an even generous tone it's humbling, because you obviously never hear that ou of donald trump. donald trump is full of bile and poison and anger. and under oath in a courtroom, a skilled prosecutor can pierc the very tiny balloon that contains those things. and he could spill out in th courtroom, and no lawyer wants to defend them under those circumstances. >> i'm not a lawyer myself, or a prosecutor, but i'm paid goo money to people to cross examine donald trump, unde oath are not tim o'brien, yusef salaam, thank you both much, i appreciate it >> coming up, the hypocrisy of the lock her up tract whe we look back on all of that. let's see if i can explain what's going on here in 60 seconds. time for a rent. 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of the twitter files fame. i think it was an incredible interview. in a case more viewers don't actually know who matt tb is he's a quite - a few reporters who ar hand-selected by elon musk after the botwood are last yea to release what was reported t be this damning evidence o internal communications at twitter, that were supposed to reveal that there was some kin of secret plan, coordinate effort to silence conservative voices ahead of the 2020 election, in your interview wa quite remarkable, you debunked many of the central claims and of, course throughout this process matt tb he's becom buds, good friends with elon musk and it was actually this one moment, mehdi, that i though was quite remarkable when you aksum in your interview, to offer a critique of elon musk let's play it for our viewers. >> how commune are criticize mask, despite all that >> well, so, i like elon musk. i'm adam it's part of a calculation - are they gonna give yo information that's gonna mak him look stupid, do you thin their motives are sincere doin x or y , i didn't i did. i thought his motives were sincere about the twitte fallout. i admired him. i think he did a tremendou public service and opening up >> i agree with you but you never disagree wit him. -- journalism >> no. i haven't reported anythin that limits my billet-y to tal about you on musk. >> so will you criticize him today? for putting journalists for -- shutdown speech, for being ant union, you can go for it i will - musk now >> no. i don't particularly want to >> it was such a telling moment listen, i am old enough to - relentless scourge of wall street, excuse me. he spared no punches when he went after the billionaire class. and, you know, boy do we see how that friendship with elo musk played out since he interview. >> well, i have done som weirdly timed interviews in my life it was a very interesting le time, some might say impeccabl timed interview. i interviewed him on the thursday and apart from th mistakes that he confessed t in corrected later, we flagged some mistakes in his reporting pretty big ones -- the big issue was -- that is on thursday. on friday, it turns out, musk' twitter is blocking access o links to substack, which mat tybee uses matt tybee tweets, i'm going t go to substack and stop goin on twitter that is on friday. on saturday, elon musk i tweeting, well, what my tybe said is false and elon musk' drops falling him. which is hilarious sequence of events it is almost trumpy. -- lots of people will thro themselves on, people go t prison for trump and he doesn' care he throws them off the bus

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