proof that you had the inten to do it but it's not actuall necessary. and in this case, ther actually is reason to thin that, for instance, the trum organization and donald trum himself might have wanted to deduct the, quote, legal fee as expenses. so, that would be tax fraud, but there is a reason to think he did not do that because i became the president and there were a lot of things that we're not done at tha point, as was shown in the trump organization trial tha fall, were basically the accountants turn to him said you know, what we're going t be under a lot more scrutiny so, the stuff that we've bee doing, let's just offer now. >> all right, i feel like we talked early on about how th falsified documents part o this is something that you can put on tv. one full screen image, even se other false documents, kno that they're all very false, it's easy to understand. getting that explanation fro catherine and andrew makes m feel like, okay, the other par of this, why is this a felony, what are the other crimes this