america s most famou presidential statements. today, wow they are going to arrest me. can t believe this i happening. president trump, will you come speak to us the ex president surrenders he is arrested but. fingerprinted. criminally charged with 34 felonies in a manhattan courthouse. these are felony crimes i new york state no matter who you are. prosecutors say he ran a criminal scheme to conceal damaging information, unlawful activity from american voter before the 2016 election former president trump plead not guilty he is frustrated. he is upset. tonight the substance of the case. the people versus donald trump joy reid, already melbourne, alex wagner stephanie bowl all here for msnbc special coverage of the first ever criminal indictment of a forme president of the united states good evening and thank you for being with us here tonight i am rachel maddow here at msnbc headquarters in new york along with lawrence o donnel and joy reid, and nicole wallace
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Really good options, lay the all out. the defense is entitled, t make motions, and you neve know what a judge is going t do, that s the reason why yo lay out your strongest ones. and here, there are just too many options that i m sure whe the defense looked at this they were actually thinkin this is more than we sort of bargained for. catherine, let me just as you to expand on what andrew has said there especially his point about how you don t necessarily have t charge the crime that brough this up to a felony, you jus have to show that there was an intent to commit that crime, whether or not it was in fac it was committed, whether or not it is in fact charged. again, for those of us who are not lawyers, that can be a little bit hard to wrap your head around. if there is an intent to commi a crime, or an effort to commi a crime, why isn t that charge behavior yeah, well, as da brag just said, you know, we did not charge it because our lawyer don t require us to do it. the statute r
Proof that you had the inten to do it but it s not actuall necessary. and in this case, ther actually is reason to thin that, for instance, the trum organization and donald trum himself might have wanted to deduct the, quote, legal fee as expenses. so, that would be tax fraud, but there is a reason to think he did not do that because i became the president and there were a lot of things that we re not done at tha point, as was shown in the trump organization trial tha fall, were basically the accountants turn to him said you know, what we re going t be under a lot more scrutiny so, the stuff that we ve bee doing, let s just offer now. all right, i feel like we talked early on about how th falsified documents part o this is something that you can put on tv. one full screen image, even se other false documents, kno that they re all very false, it s easy to understand. getting that explanation fro catherine and andrew makes m feel like, okay, the other par of this, why is this a felony,
Have it kind of taint all th other ones but if you have like fou really good options, lay the all out. the defense is entitled, t make motions, and you neve know what a judge is going t do, that s the reason why yo lay out your strongest ones. and here, there are just too many options that i m sure whe the defense looked at this they were actually thinkin this is more than we sort of bargained for. catherine, let me just as you to expand on what andrew has said there especially his point about how you don t necessarily have t charge the crime that brough this up to a felony, you jus have to show that there was an intent to commit that crime, whether or not it was in fac it was committed, whether or not it is in fact charged. again, for those of us who are not lawyers, that can be a little bit hard to wrap your head around. if there is an intent to commi a crime, or an effort to commi a crime, why isn t that charge behavior yeah, well, as da brag just said, you know, we did not char