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The president unveiled the series of proposals aimed at restoring Public Confidence in the governments secret surveillance programs. Plan that the president said was in the works before Edward Snowden leaked secret nsa documents to the press. Theres no doubt that mr. Snowdens leaks triggered a much more rapid and passionate response. I actually think we would have gotten to the same place and we would have done so without putting at risk our national security. Nbcs Kristen Welker is live at Marthas Vineyard where the president is expected to arrive shortly. Kristen, good to see you. Reporter good to see you, too, craig. What can we expect from president obama after his vacation . Reporter well, craig, i think youre going to hear a lot more about the nsa, as you heard the president say and as you just mentioned. He mapped out sort of his strategy moving forward, announced the fact that there need to be steps taken to enhance transparency of that controversial surveillance program. So he really started to enumerate what he wants to see happen, yesterday during that News Conference, take a look at some of what he mapped out. Working with congress to reform the nsa program that collects telephone data, mandating more transparency by the court which approves the surveillance, and creating a team of private citizens, including civil libertarian activists to review the program. I have been speaking to political analysts who say a couple of takeaways from yesterday. One is that to some extent the president s hand was forced by Edward Snowden. He was getting pressure from the right and from the left to really review these surveillance programs. The other takeaway here, craig, is that this is significant what president obama announced. He said these changes may have happened, would have happened anyway if it werent for Edward Snowden. Either way what the president announced yesterday suggests that there will be a difference, a change in how the government surveils the American Public so thats significant. Reaction has come in. It was swift, as you can imagine, started pouring in before president obama even wrapped up his remarks yesterday. Some republicans saying that he was being too soft. Representative peter king saying he was giving too much credibility to Edward Snowden and the other side the aclu welcoming the president s announcement but saying a lot more needs to be done. Craig . Kristen welker on Marthas Vineyard on a saturday afternoon thank you. The president was asked point blank yesterday if his views on Edward Snowden have changed. Has your mindset changed about him, is he now more whistleblower than a hacker . Is he a patriot . No, yox mr. Snowden was a patriot. As i said in my opening remarks, i called for a thorough review of our surveillance operations before mr. Snowden made these leaks. Joining me, republican congressional reporter ed okeefe, and chicago suntimes lynn. The president and chuck todd, the president denying snowden forced the issue, saying he was planning all along. Julian assange laughed off the statement in which he said in part, the simple fact that without snowdens disclosures, no one would know about the programs and no reforms could take place. Lynn do you buy the president s argument this was the plan all along . I dont buy that he was going to do anything this fast and he more or less said that. I dont even know why he had to venture in thatter toto er tterg a claim that could be so easily debated and, well, diluted. We know senator feinstein, senator, the head of the intelligence committee, is now going to have hearings on these issues. She wasnt having them before. You know, the two senators who are most one of the senators most active, senator ron wyden, he knew about it but he was handcuffed because he got information in classified briefings. Part of what i just wonder sometimes is why president obama made this own little kerfluffle on his own. Just leave the claim of prior intent on itself. The president in a bit of a no win situation. President obama has not gone far enough in going after snowden. He said the president should have gotten angrier when chuck todd asked that question. The president is feeling heat from Civil Liberties groups, the aclu said the reforms hes proposing are weak. Who are president obamas natural allies in coming up with a system that balances security with transparency . Thats interesting. I think for one, its probably the chairman of the intelligence communities, Dianne Feinstein and mike rogers, various members who sit on the committees. Probably congressional leadership, john boehner, nancy pelosi, harry reid, and theyve also received briefings in classified settings and yet understand that the rank and file are very concerned about it. Look at that vote that happened a few days before the recess began in the house that would have restricted the nsas ability to track those telephone records. What did mike rogers, the Intelligence Community chairman say . He said when we come back in the fall we have to reauthorize the Intelligence Community anyway, well work this into it. What the president is doing here is getting ready for that reauthorization, and trying to present some ideas, some of them he presented have to be codified by congress and likely are going to be seen as acceptable. I know there are some democrats who like to go a step further when it comes to the secret courts and perhaps have the judges seek senate conffirmation. Well see if that comes up. Otherwise people generally okay with the fact that the president is now putting forth new proposals. Lynn, this is what politico had to say about the nsa reforms. Never mind that much of his new proposal would require action by a gridlocked congress, the same Congress Obama blamed for inaction on his domestic agenda. Obama made it pretty plain in his own words that the proposal was aimed, like the press conference, at Public Relations more than policymaking. Theyre essentially saying this is a prevacation feel good policy announcement by the white house, it has no chance of actually delivering anything. Is that too cynical a takeaway, lynn sweet . Oh, i think it was too it was just a little not how i see it because so much of what a president does is calculated to have a good Public Relations, including the string of speeches he made in recent days on his middle class agenda, even though that seems stalled in congress. I think whats interesting here politically is that this isnt just a case of blaming House Republicans in this case for maybe not getting anything done. His own Democratic Base is divided on this, and as im sure ed knows from covering congress, you have progressive democrats, very concerned about Civil Liberties who have a lot of privacy issues that vote in the house that ed was talking about, you have an Unusual Alliance between liberals and tea party activi activists, they come to the issues from different ways but there is this interesting alignment on these surveillance issues. Ed okeefe of the Washington Post, lynn sweet of the chicago suntimes thanks to both of you. Thank you. Big break, big break, police make a New Discovery in the frantic search for a mississippi california girl, the latest on the man underhunt for the alleged abductor and suspected killer. Exhumaning the truth, researchers will dig up secret graves at a florida Reform School. What is behind the new efforts to uncover this schools deadly history . Also the american town where a 4yearold, there is he, the 4yearold who is now mayor again. Youre watching msnbc. 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This week, floridas legislature voted unanimously to exhume the schools grounds where theres already evidence, evidence of about 100 graves, most of the victims were black, and they were from ages 6 to 18. Msnbc. Coms jermaine lee has written extensively about the story joins me live now. The severe abuse allegedly started in 1914, the School Closes a few years ago. How was it able to stay open for so long . In 2011 the Justice Department found egregious practices of neglect and oversight. For decades in this small rural school, thats where the throwaways went, where the criminals that didnt have a strong foundation, petty thieves, sent to this Reform School and disappeared. A Reform School, just black students . By no means, black and white students alike, most of the remains were of black students but across the black and white kids there are these horrible tales of being shipped off to the white house they called it and whipped with paddles and whipped and there were segregated rooms where this stuff was administered. How large is the network of survivors thats come forward . There are hundreds of students who at some point or another in the last decades have attended the school but dozens have come out now and formed different groups where theyre advocating on getting their story out, advocating for the families who dont know what happened to the boys that were shipped off to the school so many years earlier. This week floridas legislature voted unanimously to allow the researchers to exhume the grounds. What are they expecting or hoping to find . Theyre hoping to finally identify some of the remains and make sure the family is given notice about what happened to these young boys but more than that, there may be other graves, because the cemetery that they found is on the black side. As we know for decades, blacks and whites, wouldnt have been buried together. There may be a cemetery of poor white boys on the ground. Theyre hoping to one, identify who is out there and also find any of the remains. Mariana, florida, is where this went down. Did this community not know any of this while it was happening . I think its a matter of not know, not care. You talk to former students they say this town was benefiting from it because people would have been working at the school but also this town is the site of one of the most horrific lynchings in history, claude neil was tortured and beaten and later the body delivered to the alleged victims family. Whether they turn the other eye or retire to the more recent black eyes they were seeing in the news, who knows. Are there thought to be other schools like this one out there, whether in florida or somewhere else around this country or is this thought to be an isolated incident . So far this story ritzs to the top. We talk about the schools and work camps for years and years before these prison systems were established people who were picked up fortress passing or other crimes were shipped off to the labor camps and Reform Schools so theres a rich and long, deep history of this happening, and are there others that were as notorious as this, im not sure. What about the paper trail . Is there a substantial paper trail that you uncovered . To some degree. There are records of the school that detail 31 of the deaths but theyre very few details, some died of pneumonia. One was murdered by other students, there are drownings, one that died from an apparent mule kick. Thats it. 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