Transcripts For KPIX KPIX 5 News Sunday Morning Edition 2015

Transcripts For KPIX KPIX 5 News Sunday Morning Edition 20150405



>> the governor is calling for mandatory water use cuts of 25%. that leaves water officials to come up with a plan to force us to follow through. >> several bay area cities are struggling with questions over land use, fighting over housing, land use and retail space. let's take a quick check of your weather forecast because we have some light rain over the peninsula, so we're starting with our high depth doppler this morning. some areas this green moving west to east and we're going to be seeing more throughout the entire bay area later on today. our current temperatureses relatively cool, san jose 45 under partly cloudy skies. so we're going to see the showers on and off throughout the day. much cooler today than what we saw yesterday and more wet weather ahead starting tomorrow. we'll have a closer look at your seven-day forecast coming up in a few minutes investigators in oakland are on the job this easter sunday morning after a shooting death at a nightclub. now, while they're still gathering information, police say the shooting happened in the early morning hours between 1:30 and 2:00. police were called to a club in the 400 block of jefferson street, one person was killed and another hospitalized. a bay area man has become the first american citizen to be killed in the latest in yemen. jamal alabani is the first american that was killed in the conflict. he was of leaving a mosque with his nephew wednesday when he was hit by mortars. the united states state department issued a travel warning to yemen so far. absolute final four shocker last night, as the wisconsin badgers took on no. 1 undefeated he kentucky wildcats. wisconsin's sam dekker was on fire as he made a series of plays that ruined kentucky's shot at the national championship. the badgers spoiled the wildcats near-perfect season with a final score 71-64. they'll play the duke blue devils in the national championship game. that's 6:00 monday night right here on kpix 5. on to the nba where it seems like every night is a historic one for the golden state warriors. they did not disappoint in dallas, either. last night's 123-1110 win over the mavericks means the warriors will have home court advantage in the playoffs. it's the 6 examine record win for head coach steve kerr, the most by any first year coach. the vatican celebrated easter sunday mass despite the rainfall in rome. tens of thousands turned out to receive the pope's blessing, but today his message wasn't just about the resurrection of jesus christ. he also praised the framework of the nuclear agreement with iran. back to you ann and phil. it's been almost five years since the san bruno explosion and this week we may finally learn the punishment for pg&e. the state public utilities commission is set to vote on a record $1.6 billion fine. >> that pipeline explosion killed six people and injured 66 others. since then, pg&e and the state agency that regulated it have been accused of carrying on an all too cozy relationship with you in march, the proposal for the fine was made and the san bruno mayor isn't opposed. >> we believe this penalty sends the right message that profits over safety will no longer be tolerated. >> we believe a penalty is appropriate. >> that is a pg&e spokesperson who wouldn't say if the utility agrees with how high the fine s the proposal would require pg&e shareholders to pay $850. that would go toward gas transmission safety. it requires pg&e to pay a $300 million fine to go into the general fund. the public utilities commission set to vote for thursday and that state agency really has a lot of people watching it trying to distance itself from the controversy over having the all too cozy relationship with pg&e. . >> one of the interesting things about the giant fine, it sounds impressive, $850 million going to shareholders having to pay but a lot of those shareholders are your pension funds. so it's going to be coming out of our pocket one way or another. >> the governor has imposed mandatory water use restrictions. there are questions about how the new rules will be enforced. >> a lot of question. governor brown's order means a lot of the local state and local agencies that supply water need to cut back to try to get to 25% reductions. but each individual agency will be responsible for how much they're going to cut. the water department is going to come out with rules in the next couple of weeks and allow the agency -- and a lot of the agencies are scrambling trying to figure out how it will affect them. the santa clara water valley district has water cops out looking for water waste. >> if you're wasting water, a friendly water waste inspector may come to your door. >> the state has had trouble living up to the governor's last mandate a20% voluntary reduction. we took a snapshot from june 2014 to january 2015, we found that bay area customers saved about 14% n central valley, water use was down around 13% and in the l.a. san diego area, people only conserved about 7%. >> when we look at future cutbacks, the question is how low can you go. >> they're probably going to ask you to drop back another 20%. when i was calling the state agencies and local, they're asking high but they're building in the fact that we probably won't reduce as high as it goes. but it is interesting, the bay area will probably take less of a hit than southern california because as we just showed you, southern california hasn't been saving up to now. >> one group of people exempt from this, farmers, because of they've taken enough of a hit. track work starts today on the bart line between fruit vail and the coliseum station. >> the repair work will shut down some stations on weekends. bart said the regular service won't be affecting the a's game and other special events at the coliseum. >> it's also interesting to note this is the beginning of there's going to be several of these sort of closures around the bay area. three already on track. bart's 42 years old and the tracks are starting to wear. >> this is the subject of your column this morning in the "san francisco chronicle." safety is a wish we maybe haven't thought about as much as we ought, cars careening off the track concerns? >> right. there's switches areas they need to look at as well. bart is being used now more than ever and it's expanding. they put money into expanding to increase the lines, but maintenance is catch upping with the 42-year-old system. the oakland city council will decide on a precious parcel of land. >> the city wants to sell it to developers to build a luxury apartment tower. housing advocates said what the city really needs is more affordable housing. >> it's housing in the wrong direction. >> mayor livy schaff said oakland needs all kinds of housing, not just luxury housing and they plans to use the profit from the sale to build more affordable housing. speaking of land use decisions, there's a message vote tomorrow on a new plan to preserve one peninsula city's charm. palo alto is going to ban store fronts from being converted to office space. >> if the council moves ahead with the ordinance, it will become the city's second stop- gap aimed at the recent office boom in the area. the council approved that a- plan to cap new construction around university avenue and real. the reason, new offices sprout up, the old businesses get squeezed out. >> we can't find enough park and an increase in traffic. >> the research park, which is home to high tech heavyweights will be exempted from the cap. >> it's funny we're talking about stifling development, that's something that would be unthinkable in a lot of other areas of the country. one of the bay area's most famous streets is getting a makeover and you can weigh in on what it should look like. starting on thursday, market street will host a prototyping festival. some of the displays may become permanent. one display on market street is a sound amplifier and it's pretty cool. they're looking at other eads. one is a -- other ideas. one is a pop-up library that is intended to foster the community's engagement with the library and with each other. this is an modi block what they're calling t it's kind of these weird, arty, interactive things that people walking along the street will find themselves engaged in. so that is going to be going on on market street, or at least the prototyping festival thursday through saturday. it's a way to help clean up that part of san francisco, it's a tech capital but it's where a lot of homeless congregation. the follow-up from the text message scandal rocking the san francisco police department continues to unfold. police chief is here to talk about it next. it could be a damp start to your sunday. much-needed rain is headed our way. we got some scattered showers rolling into the bay area this morning. they are light out there right now, but you can see them on our high def doppler. much cooler temperatures today. bring the umbrella if you're headed out the door for easter sunday. we'll have your full seven-day forecast coming up. eight police officers implicated in a homophobic and racial slur text messages may lose their job. the chief said he has zero tolerance for that behavior. >> joining us now is the chief himself, greg suhr. you have had a chance to take a look at the techs and the officers' conduct in the last couple of weeks. have you found any evidence reflective of racist or homophobic behavior as far as their work on the streets? >> so all their prior incident reports, we're going to be working with the d.a.'s office and the public defender's office to go back and look at all that, it's called the brady im imply indication. that's going to -- implication. >> so there is a danger they would not be able to testify or cases that they were witnesses in would be tossed? >> i don't think there's a danger that these guys couldn't testify. they cannot testify ever again. if -- these charges, and i believe they will be sustained, they're done. >> and that will affect the cases then? as they go forward? >> yeah. >> do you have any idea how many? >> it depends. if there was something right- minded in the case that can offset their lack of character. >> you have a second witness they could cover for it? >> or video, something independent. >> these officers involved from the captain on down, do they have complaints against them for racial profiling or any other racial incidents in their history? in other words, was there a pattern here? was this something that could have been seen before? >> there's no patience or tolerance with this at all, so if there would have been something, certainly, i mean, this is just so over the top. i mean, i'm not easily shocked. i've been a cop going on 34 years and this knocked me down. >> it knocked the department down as well. the rank and file was stunned by this. my question is, when we have incidents like this, or ferguson, and questions of racism, profiling, what effect does it have on proactive policing? because i hear cops after things like this stay i'm just not going to get involved in anything. i'm not going to try to stop anybody, i'm not going to get involved in anything where somebody said i've been racist or something like that. >> i'm not going to say it's not hard. i was out there doing exactly what you're talking about in '91 when rodney king happened. i was there in the late '90s when it was rampart station in l.a. we all wear blue and get penned with a broad stroke. it makes it really hard, but i'll tell you what, whether it's catching the two people responsible for the homicides in crocker amazon, getting the guy the other day that unprovokedly viciously attacked a homeless man, the men and women of the san francisco police department, they're out there doing it. i'm not going to say we're not going to have a longer conversation to explain every time we use force, but we'll come out of this better than we were. >> one of the criticisms and concerns is an inordinate amount of african americans are in jail and being charged. in other words, they are being targeted. >> most of the people in jail right now have committed victim crimes. certainly after prop 47, no person just in possession of drugs for personal use is in jail. drug arrests all the way around are down, getting to be over 90% because all those cripples have switched to property crime. so most of the people in jail, regardless of race, creed or color or sexual orientation have demonstrated they are someone who would prey on somebody else, so they're in there to keep them safe. it's a record low adult and juvenile jail population. i suggest the people in jail tore whatever reason, that's -- for whatever reason, that's where they should be. >> anything happening this week we should know about? >> well, yeah, the cases have all been referred to the commission, who are the folks that will dispense the discipline and that's going to happen on wednesday night. the cases will all be assigned. those of the officers that don't resign may be -- up to three may be gone by then. it's an election year and a budget season, so with all the record low jail populations and everybody's got something to say, all those policy recommendations, by design, should go to our commission and we'll take a look at them all and the ones that work and make us better, we'll put them in place. >> thank you for joining us this morning. why don't we go back to the desk and take a look at the weather. we could see showers today for your easter egg hunt. we have a bit of a chilly start. here's our roof top cam. you can see the bay bridge right there. it's a little bit cloud y to start off our easter sunday. here's high def radar showing the showers rolling across the peninsula right now. san mateo, millbrae, you could see showers this morning so, make sure to take the umbrella with you. cloudy with showers today. much cooler temperatures than even we had yesterday and more rain late monday into tuesday. we'll talk about that in your 7- day. but first, some of your high temperatures, south bay, santa clara, you're going to get to 62. sunnyvale and palo alto, 61 degrees. as we head on over to the east bay, brentwood, 63, san ramone and danville, 60 degrees. pleasant hills 62 degrees today. in san francisco, you're going to get to 59. the name for sausalito. 60 degrees in novato. today, some light showers for your easter sunday. then late monday night into tuesday, we're watching a second system roll into the bay area. could see heavier showers then with a possibility for thunderstorms on tuesday before everything clears out and dries out later on in the week. >> i like the looks of that. >> not bad. caught in the middle of a controversy, our political insiders weighing in on indiana's religious freedom law causing complications tore members of the republican party. welcome back. let's take a look at our high def doppler where we have scattered showers rolling through the bay area. much cooler temperatures today than yesterday, but make sure to bring the umbrella when you're heading out the door today. jeb bush was in town last weekend finding himself in the cross hairs of a real dilemma has a lot of republicans are finding themselves in. the indiana religious freedom law. >> it's one of many of the cultural situations that the republicans find themselves in, too, so we sat down with our political insiders to talk about the culture wars and their effect on the republican primaries and the republican party. carla tells us what it was like talking with jeb. >> we tried stalking jeb bush in palo alto and san francisco, no, never got closer to him. a lot of donors showed up to see him but you hit it on the head, phil, this whole issue about religious freedom laws shows how the republicans had a finger in the wind attitude. they seem out of touch with americans in general. the issue has changed. the world has turned. since 1993 when these first laws were set in place and the republicans, whether it's leaders, governors or possible presidential candidates don't seem to understand where the country is at. >> in reality, those are real genuine beliefs that they are expressing. what they haven't done is concealed that from the public that you're trying to persuade. but these people really believe in the nonsense that's contained in the indiana law and the arkansas law and the utterances even on the bush side. they really don't see any connection between interfering and promoting discrimination and what they're uttering about giving religion, people who are religious the right to reject. >> but it is interesting that the rest of the country appears to still be voting republican. if they are so out of touch, why are they winning just about everything short of the presidency? >> because the percentage of people participating in this democracy is de minimus, and only the people who really care and understand what power can come from giving me the right to govern are participating in the votes. and we politicians, by the way, only encourage our friends to vote. we don't encourage all people. >> i think the one thing you saw out of this issue was the voice of silicon valley weighing in, how that may change politics when the ceos in silicon valley went public and put economic pressure on the republicans. >> silicon sedinin no dice. wal-mart said no dice. wal-mart was considered the big bad business is -- are they now saints, carla? >> i think that is the question but it's interesting wal-mart joined with sales force ceo mark who kicked this thing off and it became a coalition. interesting to see this at work with other issues like immigration, legalation of pot. >> you'll recall sill cop valley tried to get their immigration moved up the scale because so many of their people needed the green cards. so many of their people needed work permits but they couldn't get anything going and they don't have anything yet going on immigration. they may get there. where bush could really shine would be to step up and become the leading republican on changing the immigration policies and if he's smart, he'll do that. >> then maybe he'll make himself available to the public and reporters like carla. >> i doubt that. if he's wise and calls me, i said don't talk to her. >> if he calls me, i would say talk to her. but this is the thing, with the republican party, these social issues, what is turning a lot of people off. a lot of people could get on board with some other theories of the republican party but the social issues are really a problem. >> by the way, jeb bush isn't the only politician not talking to reporters these days. mark is going to be joining us here in a little bit to talk about one in the state that gave the cold shoulder to reporters this past week. confusion bubbling over in berkley. why you could be charged extra by mistake. >> a campaign kickoff but why the secrecy. the question she did not seem ♪ at kaiser permanente everything you need is under one roof. another way care and coverage together makes life easier. okay, a little easier. become a member of kaiser permanente. because together, we thrive. ♪ welcome back to kpix 5 this morning. the time is 8:00. it's easter sunday. good morning. >> we have a lot to talk about in the next 30 minutes. >> we just heard from san francisco's police chief about officers expected to be fired over their text messages. now, the cases they've worked on are up in the air. many of those cases could be thrown out. >> the city's public defender is reviewing more than a thousand criminal cases to see if bias was a factor. and what little rain we may get today won't put a dent in california's drought. you probably heard the governor is calling for mandatory water cuts of up to 25%. >> but not everyone is required to do so and it turns out, many californiaens aren't even concerned. plus the changing relationships, got a bit of a cold shoulder. we'll talk about that. let's take a look another your west forecast, because it is a wet morning for some people in the bay area. taking a look at the rain moving through the peninsula. right now over millbrae at our high def doppler, we're going to see that lighting up over the bay area. live look outside at the golden gate bridge, cloudy skies and temperatures in the 50s. pretty much everywhere right now. 46 degrees, though, in santa rosa. mostly cloudy, showers today. much cooler than we saw yesterday and more wet weather ahead. we'll have a look at your seven- day forecast forecast coming up. investigators in oakland are on the job this easter sunday morning after a shooting death at a nightclub. while they're still gathering information, police say the shooting happened in the early morning hours between 1:30 and 2:00. police were called to a club in the 400 block of jefferson street. one person was killed and a second hospitalized. a bay area man has become the first american citizen to be killed in the latest violence in yemen. jamal alabani is the first u.s. citizens killed in yemen during this recent conflict. he was leaving a mosque with his nephew on tuesday when they were hit by mortars in a rebel attack. both died instantly. the u.s. state department issued a travel warning for yemen friday but so far there are no plans to help u.s. citizens safely escape. a final four shocker last night as the wisconsin badgers took on the no. 1 undefeated kentucky wildcats. sam dekker was on fire as he made a series of plays that ruined kentucky's shot at the national championship. the badgers spoiled the wildcats' nearly perfect season with a final score of 71-64. they'll play the duke blew devils 6:00 monday night in the championship. pope francis took the pope mobile out for a little spin around saint peter's square. tens of thousands turned out to receive the pope's blessing but today's message wasn't just about the resurrection of jesus christ, he praised the framework of the nuclear agreement with iran. that's a look at your top stories. local water districts all over the state are working on plans to force us to cut back. >> there's a lot of confusion about that. that's after the governor imposed mandatory water use restrictions last week of 25%. each individual water agency will be responsible for coming up with its own rules for its customers to cut back on water use and each agency will have to come up with its own way to monitor compliance. the santa clara water district already has water cops out looking for water waste. >> i had some bad ones today but nothing like this. this is a by far the worst one i've seen today. >> got a lot of water runoff there. the governor is asking for 25% cut statewide but how much they'll be asked to cut depends on how much you and your neighbors are already saving. it turns out a lot of californians aren't as concerned about the drought as they should be. >> there are questions about how serious the governor is about cutbacks. california's biggest water users are going to be except from the 25% cut back. those are farmers. >> but no matter what happens for the rainy season, the farming season is already in trouble. farms have to plan for the worst. the fear of more water cutbacks means 15% of lands will be left fallow. >> a lot of guys have already made their decisions if they think they could even plant tomatoes or mellons or corn. a lot of people have moved away from those crops. >> there are also impacts of the drought that aren't so obvious. this is alfalfa used in dairy construction. . it's going to be more expensive and a cost which will be passed on to you at the grocery store when you buy a gallon of milk. there's a bill in the state legislature, more areas could be paying a double digit sales tax. >> the rate went to 10% this a handful of bay area cities on april 1st. last year voters in each city approved the sales tax increases. now, in addition alameda county voters approved a county-wide tax hike as well. the trend has a lot of people concerned. the extra revenue could amount to about $10 million a year in heyward, alone, and it's money the city could use to beef up the police force and repair roads. >> but it could take a bite out of some businesses. a half percent doesn't seem that much, but if you're buying a car for $25,000, that's an extra $15 in sales tax. >> they're talking about should we increase state taxes to cover expenses. once you start doing this, people get resistance. let's not forget the local taxes. the nation's first ever soda tax took effect in berkley but everyone is not clear on the rule. >> it adds on a one cent per ounce tax on sugary drinks but some are just adding an itemized 22 cent tax to drink. >> if they're charging that on anything, we're not going to be discouraging people to move away from that product. >> the city has plans for outreach program to clarify the measure to retailers. >> it's embarrassing, especially because a lot of eyes are on berkley. it is the first, you know wthis big soda tax, so anybody that's thinking about it, including san francisco, is looking how it's working and it's not working so well. >> we passed it nonetheless. sometimes that's the way we do things, pass it and then work it out. a final round of shooting is planned for today for a gun club that's been in business for decades. the pacific rod and gun club is closing at least temporarily. it's been opening since 1934 but it's closing for the city to do contamination clean up. the club will have to apply to use the site again so we're not sure if it's ever really going to come back. >> nope, we aren't. that's another big question out there because of the environmental issue, the lead in the landscape. mark kelly, you tried to asker about some questions about her campaign. what happened when you approached her? >> it was hard to get near her. pamela harris was at delancey street in san francisco for the campaign kickoff, we wanted to ask her where does sle stand on the big issues pacing the country. we have yet to hear specifics about these topics. i wanted to ask her and she seemed more interested in raising money than laying out her platform. the woman of the hour went in through a back door avoiding our camera. in fact, we had to go to twitter just to find these pictures of her inside. we asked her supporters why the silence? >> why do you think she's being so quiet about it? >> i think she's doing her job, first of all. we're here raising money for her. she's our attorney general, and the campaign has just begun. >> reporter: the election is in 2016 and harris is the only democratic to have thrown her hat in the ring. critics say the california democratic stae establishment that -- democratic establishment that -- >> reporter: you think that's right? >> she earned it. she did it the hard way. >> reporter: but an election means answering hard questions. here's harris shying away from "san francisco chronicle" columnist at an initial event. >> no questions right now. >> i would love to talk to you about the campaign. let's figure out a time to actually do that. >> it's been interesting her handlers have sort of kept the state media at bay. they have had as far as i can recall, one conference call with all the political reporters that lasted about 15 minutes. she did a sitdown with the "new york times" and in that sitdown they revealed the reason why she was not talking. she was asked her opinion on high speed rail. she said she hadn't studied it enough and didn't have a pen. >> there's no big democratic running against her, so why come out on any of those issues? >> that's kind of your job. >> not necessarily come out and say i'm on this, but you have to be versed. i'm afraid they think she might step on something and make it public. >> come on over. still to come, a text message scandal ripping through the san francisco police department. public defender jeff adduci joining us live in studio that talks about some of the criminal cases that might be thrown out, next. grab the umbrella if you're headed out the door on this easter sunday morning. we got scattered showers rolling through the bay area. we could see a line going straight for san francisco right now. the full seven-day forecast coming up. eight police officers implicated in a racist and homophobic text scandal may be losing their job. the messages surfaced last month during a corruption investigation. >> we're joined by san francisco public defender jeff adduci who is going over how many cases to see who might be afced? >> we identified about a thousand cases over the last ten years. now that we're talking about 14 officers, that number is going to be much higher. >> you had a chance to do any reviews? have you found any flaws in the investigations that reflect racism? >> the only thing we have been given is what the public has. it's text messages revealed by the federal government. now we need to find out who said what, which officers made the statements, and based on that evidence we're going back to court. >> do you have any reason to believe this is more widespread than what we're hearing? >> absolutely. even the president of the officers for justice, said this is a much bigger problem within the department. you also have it going up according to them, that there are superior staff members who share these views, express these views. remember, these are only texts, so the question is, is there other evidence of bias within the police department and i think the answer is absolutely yes. >> but we don't have any evidence of that yet, or do we? >> again, what other officers have said and the hope is officers will come forward who are aware of these problems in the department. you know, at this point, obviously people are afraid because they're perhaps leading to discipline but we have to create a culture within thed about where these kind of things do come to the surface. this is a rare instance where we had access to a phone, a private phone of a police officer. >> district attorney has launched three task forces looking into this, the problems at the crime lab and the jail. do you think he's going to come up with anything on the police department? >> yes and no. >> what do you think of that investigation? >> my concern is the district attorney relies on the police to make their cases, so are we really going to get an independent investigation? with respect to the dna lab, i've talked to the d.a. and i said, you know what, if doesn't make sense to have your people investigate it because, again, you have a bias or a slant. so we've agreed to work together. >> it sounds like a lot of this is political, stob honest with you. >> there's a political reaction, which you have, people saying i'm going to do this or that but the reality is, what are we going to have after the smoke clears? we're calling for a change in training and vetting officers. there needs to be training on this. >> come on, you don't train somebody not to write texts about shooting monkeys in trees or something like that. you don't train somebody. if they're doing that, you don't have a class in that. >> but that's -- >> you just don't do that. >> that's vetting officers. that's why they need to look back and find out how the officers are on the force. in terms of training the force, you also have the thing called unconscious bias, when is what people have their minds, residue of prejudices and stereotypes that carry over into their work. the police department recently stopped their, quote, sensitivity training so, we're really pushing for training on unconscious bias. >> what is unconscious bias in terms of police force? it seems like one of those broad politically correct things can catch a lot of things. >> it's a science. harvard did a studio that shows everyone suffers from the biasses that affect their behavior. for the police officers, they have a test where they can test your reaction. the human brain has a physical reaction that creates some -- in some cases, pulling a trigger. >> if it's universal -- >> on a black person and not a white. >> it's universal and everywhere, how do you stop it? it cuts across all racial lines then. >> the research has shown if you make the person aware of it, then they will compensate for it. and this is talking about unconscious bias as opposed to explicit biasses, which we saw with the texts. it's training people to think differently. >> all right. this is going to be an interesting one because every time one of these scandals hit, everybody looks at the department and sometimes the department just stops working. >> goes back to the way it was. that's what we have to make sure it doesn't happen this time. >> that's all the time we have. thanks for joining us. let's go ahead and take a look at the weather. thank you, phil. here is our sunday morning forecast. first a live shot of the bay bridge this morning where it is cloudy with some showers out there. that is our roof top cam this morning. so here's high def doppler. you can see a line of showers, scattered showers headed through san francisco and daly city this morning. earlier this morning, we saw the peninsula, millbrae has some showers. here's what you can expect today, cloudy with showers, much cooler temperatures than what we had on our saturday and then more rain late monday into tuesday. we'll talk about that in a little bit, first, but your highs today to the south bay, santa clara 62, 61 in milpitas and fremont. over in the east bay, 60 in san ramone, dublin and danville. walnut creek, 61 today, fairfield 59 degrees. the same for san francisco and in the north bay, a lot of 60s. so today, some light showers for your easter sunday. make sure to take that umbrella if you're doing any kind of easter egg hunt and we're going to see a second system roll in late monday right into tuesday. that one could be stronger than the one we're expecting today and we could also see thunderstorms with that second system late monday night into tuesday before everything dries out wednesday, thursday and friday. >> no snow and a 25% cut in water usage. people in california really care? our political insiders dish on the drought. welcome back. take a look at the high def doppler this morning where we have scattered showers rolling through the bay area. san francisco, you're going to start seeing those very shortly. your full seven-day forecast coming up in just a bit. for the first time in california history, the governor orders mandatory water reductions statewide, that's because most of the state is in an extreme or exceptional drought. that graphic looks a little bit scary. there was no snow at the snow pack for the first time in 75 years. that melting snow is what is supposed to fill the state's rivers and reservoirs. >> but for a lot of people out there, they're being asked to cut back but are we in a real drought? >> not at all. as a matter of fact, everybody figures you turn the water on, you flush the toilet, it all works. water is there. >> carla, what was your take? >> i think this is being called the war on golf because people are going to start to see the impact on the golf courses, on the parks. jerry brown this week put out the alarm to california, that two-thirds of the state is in desperate extreme drought situations, it's about time a lot of people said. keep in mind, maybe two people out of 20 that know anything about the golf course and if you rely upon the golf courses being the instruction on water, there will never be any consciousness of the drought. none. >> mayor brown, you've been through this before in the '70s and since. what is it about water that makes it so difficult for officials to deal with it? >> well, it's not something that you really care about. nobody runs for election on the basis of water or no water. maybe in isolated places like the central valley where all the farmers, or many of the farmers, are concerned but in napa, you understand water is important to the wine world. you have water -- you haven't heard one word about the wine world and water. nobody said tomorrow your wine is going to go up because there's not enough water. >> good point. agriculture is not going to suffer with the latest call for restrictions. already residents in san francisco use only 45 gallons a day. that's really low compared to the rest of the state. i think people want to watch and see how are they going to come down on the folks that are really abusing the water system s that ever going to happen? >> i got to tell you, though, that people can really be helpful. entrepreneurs can be helpful on making you conscious of water by selling you replacement turf for grass. >> speaking of grass, the governor made his statement up on a -- at a brown meadow in the sierra, said this is where snow should be. what if he had had made this at a golf course and said we can't have that? >> he will never, ever do that, phil. that could cost him votes. being up in the sierra cost him nothing except inattention. if he was in palm springs or if he was in some place near here where there might be a golf course, he said tomorrow we're never going to water this golf course again, the golfers would be enraged. and believe it or not, golfers really vote. >> which may give you the secret for the whole drought policy. >> i think people are aware, but whether they're changing their behavior, that's the question. >> as long as you see green golf courses and full pools, you're going to say what drought? >> keep on living your life. could bring thunderstorms tuesday before dries out. >> it is so nice to see all that rain. >> love having it. >> in the 7-day, even though it's not going to be enough to make much a dent in our drought. we're jumping over to cw cable channel >> o'donnell: today on "face the 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>> the governor is calling for mandatory water use cuts of 25%. that leaves water officials to come up with a plan to force us to follow through. >> several bay area cities are struggling with questions over land use, fighting over housing, land use and retail space. let's take a quick check of your weather forecast because we have some light rain over the peninsula, so we're starting with our high depth doppler this morning. some areas this green moving west to east and we're going to be seeing more throughout the entire bay area later on today. our current temperatureses relatively cool, san jose 45 under partly cloudy skies. so we're going to see the showers on and off throughout the day. much cooler today than what we saw yesterday and more wet weather ahead starting tomorrow. we'll have a closer look at your seven-day forecast coming up in a few minutes investigators in oakland are on the job this easter sunday morning after a shooting death at a nightclub. now, while they're still gathering information, police say the shooting happened in the early morning hours between 1:30 and 2:00. police were called to a club in the 400 block of jefferson street, one person was killed and another hospitalized. a bay area man has become the first american citizen to be killed in the latest in yemen. jamal alabani is the first american that was killed in the conflict. he was of leaving a mosque with his nephew wednesday when he was hit by mortars. the united states state department issued a travel warning to yemen so far. absolute final four shocker last night, as the wisconsin badgers took on no. 1 undefeated he kentucky wildcats. wisconsin's sam dekker was on fire as he made a series of plays that ruined kentucky's shot at the national championship. the badgers spoiled the wildcats near-perfect season with a final score 71-64. they'll play the duke blue devils in the national championship game. that's 6:00 monday night right here on kpix 5. on to the nba where it seems like every night is a historic one for the golden state warriors. they did not disappoint in dallas, either. last night's 123-1110 win over the mavericks means the warriors will have home court advantage in the playoffs. it's the 6 examine record win for head coach steve kerr, the most by any first year coach. the vatican celebrated easter sunday mass despite the rainfall in rome. tens of thousands turned out to receive the pope's blessing, but today his message wasn't just about the resurrection of jesus christ. he also praised the framework of the nuclear agreement with iran. back to you ann and phil. it's been almost five years since the san bruno explosion and this week we may finally learn the punishment for pg&e. the state public utilities commission is set to vote on a record $1.6 billion fine. >> that pipeline explosion killed six people and injured 66 others. since then, pg&e and the state agency that regulated it have been accused of carrying on an all too cozy relationship with you in march, the proposal for the fine was made and the san bruno mayor isn't opposed. >> we believe this penalty sends the right message that profits over safety will no longer be tolerated. >> we believe a penalty is appropriate. >> that is a pg&e spokesperson who wouldn't say if the utility agrees with how high the fine s the proposal would require pg&e shareholders to pay $850. that would go toward gas transmission safety. it requires pg&e to pay a $300 million fine to go into the general fund. the public utilities commission set to vote for thursday and that state agency really has a lot of people watching it trying to distance itself from the controversy over having the all too cozy relationship with pg&e. . >> one of the interesting things about the giant fine, it sounds impressive, $850 million going to shareholders having to pay but a lot of those shareholders are your pension funds. so it's going to be coming out of our pocket one way or another. >> the governor has imposed mandatory water use restrictions. there are questions about how the new rules will be enforced. >> a lot of question. governor brown's order means a lot of the local state and local agencies that supply water need to cut back to try to get to 25% reductions. but each individual agency will be responsible for how much they're going to cut. the water department is going to come out with rules in the next couple of weeks and allow the agency -- and a lot of the agencies are scrambling trying to figure out how it will affect them. the santa clara water valley district has water cops out looking for water waste. >> if you're wasting water, a friendly water waste inspector may come to your door. >> the state has had trouble living up to the governor's last mandate a20% voluntary reduction. we took a snapshot from june 2014 to january 2015, we found that bay area customers saved about 14% n central valley, water use was down around 13% and in the l.a. san diego area, people only conserved about 7%. >> when we look at future cutbacks, the question is how low can you go. >> they're probably going to ask you to drop back another 20%. when i was calling the state agencies and local, they're asking high but they're building in the fact that we probably won't reduce as high as it goes. but it is interesting, the bay area will probably take less of a hit than southern california because as we just showed you, southern california hasn't been saving up to now. >> one group of people exempt from this, farmers, because of they've taken enough of a hit. track work starts today on the bart line between fruit vail and the coliseum station. >> the repair work will shut down some stations on weekends. bart said the regular service won't be affecting the a's game and other special events at the coliseum. >> it's also interesting to note this is the beginning of there's going to be several of these sort of closures around the bay area. three already on track. bart's 42 years old and the tracks are starting to wear. >> this is the subject of your column this morning in the "san francisco chronicle." safety is a wish we maybe haven't thought about as much as we ought, cars careening off the track concerns? >> right. there's switches areas they need to look at as well. bart is being used now more than ever and it's expanding. they put money into expanding to increase the lines, but maintenance is catch upping with the 42-year-old system. the oakland city council will decide on a precious parcel of land. >> the city wants to sell it to developers to build a luxury apartment tower. housing advocates said what the city really needs is more affordable housing. >> it's housing in the wrong direction. >> mayor livy schaff said oakland needs all kinds of housing, not just luxury housing and they plans to use the profit from the sale to build more affordable housing. speaking of land use decisions, there's a message vote tomorrow on a new plan to preserve one peninsula city's charm. palo alto is going to ban store fronts from being converted to office space. >> if the council moves ahead with the ordinance, it will become the city's second stop- gap aimed at the recent office boom in the area. the council approved that a- plan to cap new construction around university avenue and real. the reason, new offices sprout up, the old businesses get squeezed out. >> we can't find enough park and an increase in traffic. >> the research park, which is home to high tech heavyweights will be exempted from the cap. >> it's funny we're talking about stifling development, that's something that would be unthinkable in a lot of other areas of the country. one of the bay area's most famous streets is getting a makeover and you can weigh in on what it should look like. starting on thursday, market street will host a prototyping festival. some of the displays may become permanent. one display on market street is a sound amplifier and it's pretty cool. they're looking at other eads. one is a -- other ideas. one is a pop-up library that is intended to foster the community's engagement with the library and with each other. this is an modi block what they're calling t it's kind of these weird, arty, interactive things that people walking along the street will find themselves engaged in. so that is going to be going on on market street, or at least the prototyping festival thursday through saturday. it's a way to help clean up that part of san francisco, it's a tech capital but it's where a lot of homeless congregation. the follow-up from the text message scandal rocking the san francisco police department continues to unfold. police chief is here to talk about it next. it could be a damp start to your sunday. much-needed rain is headed our way. we got some scattered showers rolling into the bay area this morning. they are light out there right now, but you can see them on our high def doppler. much cooler temperatures today. bring the umbrella if you're headed out the door for easter sunday. we'll have your full seven-day forecast coming up. eight police officers implicated in a homophobic and racial slur text messages may lose their job. the chief said he has zero tolerance for that behavior. >> joining us now is the chief himself, greg suhr. you have had a chance to take a look at the techs and the officers' conduct in the last couple of weeks. have you found any evidence reflective of racist or homophobic behavior as far as their work on the streets? >> so all their prior incident reports, we're going to be working with the d.a.'s office and the public defender's office to go back and look at all that, it's called the brady im imply indication. that's going to -- implication. >> so there is a danger they would not be able to testify or cases that they were witnesses in would be tossed? >> i don't think there's a danger that these guys couldn't testify. they cannot testify ever again. if -- these charges, and i believe they will be sustained, they're done. >> and that will affect the cases then? as they go forward? >> yeah. >> do you have any idea how many? >> it depends. if there was something right- minded in the case that can offset their lack of character. >> you have a second witness they could cover for it? >> or video, something independent. >> these officers involved from the captain on down, do they have complaints against them for racial profiling or any other racial incidents in their history? in other words, was there a pattern here? was this something that could have been seen before? >> there's no patience or tolerance with this at all, so if there would have been something, certainly, i mean, this is just so over the top. i mean, i'm not easily shocked. i've been a cop going on 34 years and this knocked me down. >> it knocked the department down as well. the rank and file was stunned by this. my question is, when we have incidents like this, or ferguson, and questions of racism, profiling, what effect does it have on proactive policing? because i hear cops after things like this stay i'm just not going to get involved in anything. i'm not going to try to stop anybody, i'm not going to get involved in anything where somebody said i've been racist or something like that. >> i'm not going to say it's not hard. i was out there doing exactly what you're talking about in '91 when rodney king happened. i was there in the late '90s when it was rampart station in l.a. we all wear blue and get penned with a broad stroke. it makes it really hard, but i'll tell you what, whether it's catching the two people responsible for the homicides in crocker amazon, getting the guy the other day that unprovokedly viciously attacked a homeless man, the men and women of the san francisco police department, they're out there doing it. i'm not going to say we're not going to have a longer conversation to explain every time we use force, but we'll come out of this better than we were. >> one of the criticisms and concerns is an inordinate amount of african americans are in jail and being charged. in other words, they are being targeted. >> most of the people in jail right now have committed victim crimes. certainly after prop 47, no person just in possession of drugs for personal use is in jail. drug arrests all the way around are down, getting to be over 90% because all those cripples have switched to property crime. so most of the people in jail, regardless of race, creed or color or sexual orientation have demonstrated they are someone who would prey on somebody else, so they're in there to keep them safe. it's a record low adult and juvenile jail population. i suggest the people in jail tore whatever reason, that's -- for whatever reason, that's where they should be. >> anything happening this week we should know about? >> well, yeah, the cases have all been referred to the commission, who are the folks that will dispense the discipline and that's going to happen on wednesday night. the cases will all be assigned. those of the officers that don't resign may be -- up to three may be gone by then. it's an election year and a budget season, so with all the record low jail populations and everybody's got something to say, all those policy recommendations, by design, should go to our commission and we'll take a look at them all and the ones that work and make us better, we'll put them in place. >> thank you for joining us this morning. why don't we go back to the desk and take a look at the weather. we could see showers today for your easter egg hunt. we have a bit of a chilly start. here's our roof top cam. you can see the bay bridge right there. it's a little bit cloud y to start off our easter sunday. here's high def radar showing the showers rolling across the peninsula right now. san mateo, millbrae, you could see showers this morning so, make sure to take the umbrella with you. cloudy with showers today. much cooler temperatures than even we had yesterday and more rain late monday into tuesday. we'll talk about that in your 7- day. but first, some of your high temperatures, south bay, santa clara, you're going to get to 62. sunnyvale and palo alto, 61 degrees. as we head on over to the east bay, brentwood, 63, san ramone and danville, 60 degrees. pleasant hills 62 degrees today. in san francisco, you're going to get to 59. the name for sausalito. 60 degrees in novato. today, some light showers for your easter sunday. then late monday night into tuesday, we're watching a second system roll into the bay area. could see heavier showers then with a possibility for thunderstorms on tuesday before everything clears out and dries out later on in the week. >> i like the looks of that. >> not bad. caught in the middle of a controversy, our political insiders weighing in on indiana's religious freedom law causing complications tore members of the republican party. welcome back. let's take a look at our high def doppler where we have scattered showers rolling through the bay area. much cooler temperatures today than yesterday, but make sure to bring the umbrella when you're heading out the door today. jeb bush was in town last weekend finding himself in the cross hairs of a real dilemma has a lot of republicans are finding themselves in. the indiana religious freedom law. >> it's one of many of the cultural situations that the republicans find themselves in, too, so we sat down with our political insiders to talk about the culture wars and their effect on the republican primaries and the republican party. carla tells us what it was like talking with jeb. >> we tried stalking jeb bush in palo alto and san francisco, no, never got closer to him. a lot of donors showed up to see him but you hit it on the head, phil, this whole issue about religious freedom laws shows how the republicans had a finger in the wind attitude. they seem out of touch with americans in general. the issue has changed. the world has turned. since 1993 when these first laws were set in place and the republicans, whether it's leaders, governors or possible presidential candidates don't seem to understand where the country is at. >> in reality, those are real genuine beliefs that they are expressing. what they haven't done is concealed that from the public that you're trying to persuade. but these people really believe in the nonsense that's contained in the indiana law and the arkansas law and the utterances even on the bush side. they really don't see any connection between interfering and promoting discrimination and what they're uttering about giving religion, people who are religious the right to reject. >> but it is interesting that the rest of the country appears to still be voting republican. if they are so out of touch, why are they winning just about everything short of the presidency? >> because the percentage of people participating in this democracy is de minimus, and only the people who really care and understand what power can come from giving me the right to govern are participating in the votes. and we politicians, by the way, only encourage our friends to vote. we don't encourage all people. >> i think the one thing you saw out of this issue was the voice of silicon valley weighing in, how that may change politics when the ceos in silicon valley went public and put economic pressure on the republicans. >> silicon sedinin no dice. wal-mart said no dice. wal-mart was considered the big bad business is -- are they now saints, carla? >> i think that is the question but it's interesting wal-mart joined with sales force ceo mark who kicked this thing off and it became a coalition. interesting to see this at work with other issues like immigration, legalation of pot. >> you'll recall sill cop valley tried to get their immigration moved up the scale because so many of their people needed the green cards. so many of their people needed work permits but they couldn't get anything going and they don't have anything yet going on immigration. they may get there. where bush could really shine would be to step up and become the leading republican on changing the immigration policies and if he's smart, he'll do that. >> then maybe he'll make himself available to the public and reporters like carla. >> i doubt that. if he's wise and calls me, i said don't talk to her. >> if he calls me, i would say talk to her. but this is the thing, with the republican party, these social issues, what is turning a lot of people off. a lot of people could get on board with some other theories of the republican party but the social issues are really a problem. >> by the way, jeb bush isn't the only politician not talking to reporters these days. mark is going to be joining us here in a little bit to talk about one in the state that gave the cold shoulder to reporters this past week. confusion bubbling over in berkley. why you could be charged extra by mistake. >> a campaign kickoff but why the secrecy. the question she did not seem ♪ at kaiser permanente everything you need is under one roof. another way care and coverage together makes life easier. okay, a little easier. become a member of kaiser permanente. because together, we thrive. ♪ welcome back to kpix 5 this morning. the time is 8:00. it's easter sunday. good morning. >> we have a lot to talk about in the next 30 minutes. >> we just heard from san francisco's police chief about officers expected to be fired over their text messages. now, the cases they've worked on are up in the air. many of those cases could be thrown out. >> the city's public defender is reviewing more than a thousand criminal cases to see if bias was a factor. and what little rain we may get today won't put a dent in california's drought. you probably heard the governor is calling for mandatory water cuts of up to 25%. >> but not everyone is required to do so and it turns out, many californiaens aren't even concerned. plus the changing relationships, got a bit of a cold shoulder. we'll talk about that. let's take a look another your west forecast, because it is a wet morning for some people in the bay area. taking a look at the rain moving through the peninsula. right now over millbrae at our high def doppler, we're going to see that lighting up over the bay area. live look outside at the golden gate bridge, cloudy skies and temperatures in the 50s. pretty much everywhere right now. 46 degrees, though, in santa rosa. mostly cloudy, showers today. much cooler than we saw yesterday and more wet weather ahead. we'll have a look at your seven- day forecast forecast coming up. investigators in oakland are on the job this easter sunday morning after a shooting death at a nightclub. while they're still gathering information, police say the shooting happened in the early morning hours between 1:30 and 2:00. police were called to a club in the 400 block of jefferson street. one person was killed and a second hospitalized. a bay area man has become the first american citizen to be killed in the latest violence in yemen. jamal alabani is the first u.s. citizens killed in yemen during this recent conflict. he was leaving a mosque with his nephew on tuesday when they were hit by mortars in a rebel attack. both died instantly. the u.s. state department issued a travel warning for yemen friday but so far there are no plans to help u.s. citizens safely escape. a final four shocker last night as the wisconsin badgers took on the no. 1 undefeated kentucky wildcats. sam dekker was on fire as he made a series of plays that ruined kentucky's shot at the national championship. the badgers spoiled the wildcats' nearly perfect season with a final score of 71-64. they'll play the duke blew devils 6:00 monday night in the championship. pope francis took the pope mobile out for a little spin around saint peter's square. tens of thousands turned out to receive the pope's blessing but today's message wasn't just about the resurrection of jesus christ, he praised the framework of the nuclear agreement with iran. that's a look at your top stories. local water districts all over the state are working on plans to force us to cut back. >> there's a lot of confusion about that. that's after the governor imposed mandatory water use restrictions last week of 25%. each individual water agency will be responsible for coming up with its own rules for its customers to cut back on water use and each agency will have to come up with its own way to monitor compliance. the santa clara water district already has water cops out looking for water waste. >> i had some bad ones today but nothing like this. this is a by far the worst one i've seen today. >> got a lot of water runoff there. the governor is asking for 25% cut statewide but how much they'll be asked to cut depends on how much you and your neighbors are already saving. it turns out a lot of californians aren't as concerned about the drought as they should be. >> there are questions about how serious the governor is about cutbacks. california's biggest water users are going to be except from the 25% cut back. those are farmers. >> but no matter what happens for the rainy season, the farming season is already in trouble. farms have to plan for the worst. the fear of more water cutbacks means 15% of lands will be left fallow. >> a lot of guys have already made their decisions if they think they could even plant tomatoes or mellons or corn. a lot of people have moved away from those crops. >> there are also impacts of the drought that aren't so obvious. this is alfalfa used in dairy construction. . it's going to be more expensive and a cost which will be passed on to you at the grocery store when you buy a gallon of milk. there's a bill in the state legislature, more areas could be paying a double digit sales tax. >> the rate went to 10% this a handful of bay area cities on april 1st. last year voters in each city approved the sales tax increases. now, in addition alameda county voters approved a county-wide tax hike as well. the trend has a lot of people concerned. the extra revenue could amount to about $10 million a year in heyward, alone, and it's money the city could use to beef up the police force and repair roads. >> but it could take a bite out of some businesses. a half percent doesn't seem that much, but if you're buying a car for $25,000, that's an extra $15 in sales tax. >> they're talking about should we increase state taxes to cover expenses. once you start doing this, people get resistance. let's not forget the local taxes. the nation's first ever soda tax took effect in berkley but everyone is not clear on the rule. >> it adds on a one cent per ounce tax on sugary drinks but some are just adding an itemized 22 cent tax to drink. >> if they're charging that on anything, we're not going to be discouraging people to move away from that product. >> the city has plans for outreach program to clarify the measure to retailers. >> it's embarrassing, especially because a lot of eyes are on berkley. it is the first, you know wthis big soda tax, so anybody that's thinking about it, including san francisco, is looking how it's working and it's not working so well. >> we passed it nonetheless. sometimes that's the way we do things, pass it and then work it out. a final round of shooting is planned for today for a gun club that's been in business for decades. the pacific rod and gun club is closing at least temporarily. it's been opening since 1934 but it's closing for the city to do contamination clean up. the club will have to apply to use the site again so we're not sure if it's ever really going to come back. >> nope, we aren't. that's another big question out there because of the environmental issue, the lead in the landscape. mark kelly, you tried to asker about some questions about her campaign. what happened when you approached her? >> it was hard to get near her. pamela harris was at delancey street in san francisco for the campaign kickoff, we wanted to ask her where does sle stand on the big issues pacing the country. we have yet to hear specifics about these topics. i wanted to ask her and she seemed more interested in raising money than laying out her platform. the woman of the hour went in through a back door avoiding our camera. in fact, we had to go to twitter just to find these pictures of her inside. we asked her supporters why the silence? >> why do you think she's being so quiet about it? >> i think she's doing her job, first of all. we're here raising money for her. she's our attorney general, and the campaign has just begun. >> reporter: the election is in 2016 and harris is the only democratic to have thrown her hat in the ring. critics say the california democratic stae establishment that -- democratic establishment that -- >> reporter: you think that's right? >> she earned it. she did it the hard way. >> reporter: but an election means answering hard questions. here's harris shying away from "san francisco chronicle" columnist at an initial event. >> no questions right now. >> i would love to talk to you about the campaign. let's figure out a time to actually do that. >> it's been interesting her handlers have sort of kept the state media at bay. they have had as far as i can recall, one conference call with all the political reporters that lasted about 15 minutes. she did a sitdown with the "new york times" and in that sitdown they revealed the reason why she was not talking. she was asked her opinion on high speed rail. she said she hadn't studied it enough and didn't have a pen. >> there's no big democratic running against her, so why come out on any of those issues? >> that's kind of your job. >> not necessarily come out and say i'm on this, but you have to be versed. i'm afraid they think she might step on something and make it public. >> come on over. still to come, a text message scandal ripping through the san francisco police department. public defender jeff adduci joining us live in studio that talks about some of the criminal cases that might be thrown out, next. grab the umbrella if you're headed out the door on this easter sunday morning. we got scattered showers rolling through the bay area. we could see a line going straight for san francisco right now. the full seven-day forecast coming up. eight police officers implicated in a racist and homophobic text scandal may be losing their job. the messages surfaced last month during a corruption investigation. >> we're joined by san francisco public defender jeff adduci who is going over how many cases to see who might be afced? >> we identified about a thousand cases over the last ten years. now that we're talking about 14 officers, that number is going to be much higher. >> you had a chance to do any reviews? have you found any flaws in the investigations that reflect racism? >> the only thing we have been given is what the public has. it's text messages revealed by the federal government. now we need to find out who said what, which officers made the statements, and based on that evidence we're going back to court. >> do you have any reason to believe this is more widespread than what we're hearing? >> absolutely. even the president of the officers for justice, said this is a much bigger problem within the department. you also have it going up according to them, that there are superior staff members who share these views, express these views. remember, these are only texts, so the question is, is there other evidence of bias within the police department and i think the answer is absolutely yes. >> but we don't have any evidence of that yet, or do we? >> again, what other officers have said and the hope is officers will come forward who are aware of these problems in the department. you know, at this point, obviously people are afraid because they're perhaps leading to discipline but we have to create a culture within thed about where these kind of things do come to the surface. this is a rare instance where we had access to a phone, a private phone of a police officer. >> district attorney has launched three task forces looking into this, the problems at the crime lab and the jail. do you think he's going to come up with anything on the police department? >> yes and no. >> what do you think of that investigation? >> my concern is the district attorney relies on the police to make their cases, so are we really going to get an independent investigation? with respect to the dna lab, i've talked to the d.a. and i said, you know what, if doesn't make sense to have your people investigate it because, again, you have a bias or a slant. so we've agreed to work together. >> it sounds like a lot of this is political, stob honest with you. >> there's a political reaction, which you have, people saying i'm going to do this or that but the reality is, what are we going to have after the smoke clears? we're calling for a change in training and vetting officers. there needs to be training on this. >> come on, you don't train somebody not to write texts about shooting monkeys in trees or something like that. you don't train somebody. if they're doing that, you don't have a class in that. >> but that's -- >> you just don't do that. >> that's vetting officers. that's why they need to look back and find out how the officers are on the force. in terms of training the force, you also have the thing called unconscious bias, when is what people have their minds, residue of prejudices and stereotypes that carry over into their work. the police department recently stopped their, quote, sensitivity training so, we're really pushing for training on unconscious bias. >> what is unconscious bias in terms of police force? it seems like one of those broad politically correct things can catch a lot of things. >> it's a science. harvard did a studio that shows everyone suffers from the biasses that affect their behavior. for the police officers, they have a test where they can test your reaction. the human brain has a physical reaction that creates some -- in some cases, pulling a trigger. >> if it's universal -- >> on a black person and not a white. >> it's universal and everywhere, how do you stop it? it cuts across all racial lines then. >> the research has shown if you make the person aware of it, then they will compensate for it. and this is talking about unconscious bias as opposed to explicit biasses, which we saw with the texts. it's training people to think differently. >> all right. this is going to be an interesting one because every time one of these scandals hit, everybody looks at the department and sometimes the department just stops working. >> goes back to the way it was. that's what we have to make sure it doesn't happen this time. >> that's all the time we have. thanks for joining us. let's go ahead and take a look at the weather. thank you, phil. here is our sunday morning forecast. first a live shot of the bay bridge this morning where it is cloudy with some showers out there. that is our roof top cam this morning. so here's high def doppler. you can see a line of showers, scattered showers headed through san francisco and daly city this morning. earlier this morning, we saw the peninsula, millbrae has some showers. here's what you can expect today, cloudy with showers, much cooler temperatures than what we had on our saturday and then more rain late monday into tuesday. we'll talk about that in a little bit, first, but your highs today to the south bay, santa clara 62, 61 in milpitas and fremont. over in the east bay, 60 in san ramone, dublin and danville. walnut creek, 61 today, fairfield 59 degrees. the same for san francisco and in the north bay, a lot of 60s. so today, some light showers for your easter sunday. make sure to take that umbrella if you're doing any kind of easter egg hunt and we're going to see a second system roll in late monday right into tuesday. that one could be stronger than the one we're expecting today and we could also see thunderstorms with that second system late monday night into tuesday before everything dries out wednesday, thursday and friday. >> no snow and a 25% cut in water usage. people in california really care? our political insiders dish on the drought. welcome back. take a look at the high def doppler this morning where we have scattered showers rolling through the bay area. san francisco, you're going to start seeing those very shortly. your full seven-day forecast coming up in just a bit. for the first time in california history, the governor orders mandatory water reductions statewide, that's because most of the state is in an extreme or exceptional drought. that graphic looks a little bit scary. there was no snow at the snow pack for the first time in 75 years. that melting snow is what is supposed to fill the state's rivers and reservoirs. >> but for a lot of people out there, they're being asked to cut back but are we in a real drought? >> not at all. as a matter of fact, everybody figures you turn the water on, you flush the toilet, it all works. water is there. >> carla, what was your take? >> i think this is being called the war on golf because people are going to start to see the impact on the golf courses, on the parks. jerry brown this week put out the alarm to california, that two-thirds of the state is in desperate extreme drought situations, it's about time a lot of people said. keep in mind, maybe two people out of 20 that know anything about the golf course and if you rely upon the golf courses being the instruction on water, there will never be any consciousness of the drought. none. >> mayor brown, you've been through this before in the '70s and since. what is it about water that makes it so difficult for officials to deal with it? >> well, it's not something that you really care about. nobody runs for election on the basis of water or no water. maybe in isolated places like the central valley where all the farmers, or many of the farmers, are concerned but in napa, you understand water is important to the wine world. you have water -- you haven't heard one word about the wine world and water. nobody said tomorrow your wine is going to go up because there's not enough water. >> good point. agriculture is not going to suffer with the latest call for restrictions. already residents in san francisco use only 45 gallons a day. that's really low compared to the rest of the state. i think people want to watch and see how are they going to come down on the folks that are really abusing the water system s that ever going to happen? >> i got to tell you, though, that people can really be helpful. entrepreneurs can be helpful on making you conscious of water by selling you replacement turf for grass. >> speaking of grass, the governor made his statement up on a -- at a brown meadow in the sierra, said this is where snow should be. what if he had had made this at a golf course and said we can't have that? >> he will never, ever do that, phil. that could cost him votes. being up in the sierra cost him nothing except inattention. if he was in palm springs or if he was in some place near here where there might be a golf course, he said tomorrow we're never going to water this golf course again, the golfers would be enraged. and believe it or not, golfers really vote. >> which may give you the secret for the whole drought policy. >> i think people are aware, but whether they're changing their behavior, that's the question. >> as long as you see green golf courses and full pools, you're going to say what drought? >> keep on living your life. could bring thunderstorms tuesday before dries out. >> it is so nice to see all that rain. >> love having it. >> in the 7-day, even though it's not going to be enough to make much a dent in our drought. we're jumping over to cw cable channel >> o'donnell: today on "face the 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