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or wear masks? are we talking months, or even into next year? and if we have been exposed to coronavirus, even without knowing, if we have antibodies, will we have immunity? all of those questions answered. my interview with dr. anthony fauci, right here tonight. and this evening, president trump facing backlash for his plans to halt funding to the world health organization. late today, our exclusive interview. what bill and melinda gates told me about the president's move. as they make news on another front right here tonight. there is also news this evening in the race to find a vaccine. we're tracking the human trials under way. is there any way to speed up the process? shington sta.nd scientis awo ip and thgent ebodies. what diane sawyer has learned tonight. as we now hear from one young man who, like so many americans, remembered symptoms weeks ago and thought he might have had the virus. what the test showed. and does he have immunity? and overseas tonight, some countries now taking their first steps to reopen. the images tonight from inside schools. one child to a table. and now the second wave of cases being seen. what to expect here at home. good evening. it's great to have you here on a wednesday night. we begin with the question so many americans are asking. how soon will parts of the country reopen and what will that look like? president trump saying he will unveil national guidelines tomorrow. tonight, my interview with dr. anthony fauci on what we will all have to do in the weeks and months to come. the u.s. death toll approaching 28,000. 2,500 deaths in the last 24 hours alone. nearly a third of those deaths in new york. 752 in the past day. the eighth day above 700. a flattening of the curve, but at a devastating level. tonight, governor cuomo ordering the wearing of masks. the peak they hope has been reached here. other parts of the country still have not reached their apex. more than 17 million americans out of work. new numbers coming tomorrow, that number expected to spike again. the first stimulus checks arriving tonight. and the global firestorm after president trump revealed his plans to halt funding to the world health organization. our interview with bill and melinda gates, their reaction as they make news tonight. their big announcement, right here. we will carefully get to it all. we begin with tom llamas right here in new york. >> reporter: tonight, the relentless battle against the coronavirus. even as new york flattens the curve, the death toll is rising. 752 people dying in just the past 24 hours. at mt. sinai beth israel hospital, dr. erik eiting has been working the overnight shift. >> we're seeing plenty of coronavirus cases. some people as young as in their 20s and people as old as in their 80s. >> reporter: this week, the hospital reversing its policies to allow some families time with their loved ones. >> we decided to change it for patients who are very near the end of life so that people don't have to die alone. >> reporter: today, new york governor andrew cuomo issuing an executive order requiring everyone to start wearing face coverings in public. in massachusetts, the governor announcing deaths in his state now topping 1,000. >> i would say at this point in time, we are in the surge. yes. >> reporter: in miami, a line of cars snaking around hard rock stadium. hundreds showing up to be tested. but for many, the wait ending in disappointment. the facility can only perform 700 tests a day. >> i came here yesterday and i couldn't do it. so i have to come back today. >> reporter: tonight, a growing consensus that stepped-up testing is the key to putting america back to work. >> the more testing, the more open the economy. but there's not enough national capacity to do this. i'm telling you, we can't do it without federal support. >> reporter: today "the wall street journal" reporting that president trump, on a conference call, was urged by executives on his recovery task force to dramatically increase testing capability in order to get the economy going. for the people waiting in unemployment lines in florida and converging on food pantries in phoenix, it can't come soon enough. outside san francisco, nick stanford, now unemployed, is pinching pennies at the grocery store. >> we're barely scraping by. you know, we're getting behind. we're struggling. >> reporter: president trump has yet to release federal guidance on how the country might reopen. and today he's facing a growing backlash over his decision to strip funding from the world health organization. >> the w.h.o. failed in this basic duty and must be held accountable. >> reporter: today, an outcry in some circles. from the american nurses association, which called the move "misguided," to bill and melinda gates, who have donated millions to the fight against covid-19 and sat down with david muir for an exclusive interview. >> i wanted to ask you, bill, we've reported here in the last 24 hours, the president revealing that he wants to halt all u.s. aid to the world health organization. do you agree with that move? >> i'm hopeful he doesn't follow through on that. because we need their support, this is a global problem. they are the institution that, you know, brings nations together and makes sure that we're sharing best practices between all of those countries. there will be plenty of time to look back and see which countries did things well, which didn't. where should w.h.o. have done things differently? >> have you tried to reach out to the president on this? >> we did tweet our support for the w.h.o. we don't think they should have to start letting people go in the middle of the first modern pandemic. >> w.h.o. was created after world war ii to deal with exactly these issues. so halting the funding doesn't make any sense. >> reporter: the president says tomorrow he will release a plan for all 50 states to open. it's going to be the president's guidelines. we'll have to wait and see what he says. >> tom, thank you. and we'll hear more from bill and melinda gates at in just a moment. but many of you want to know how and when will we reopen the country? as we continue our series on what is next for america? your questions. are we ready to reopen? will we be ready with tests? and can you catch this virus twice? the new headlines tonight. we get to all of those questions with dr. anthony fauci, who i spoke with before we came on the air tonight. dr. fauci, thanks for joining us here. i know everyone at home wants to know when will america reopen, how will america reopen? we've heard from the president that in some places it will reopen perhaps after these 30 days. in some states, even sooner. do you agree with that? is america ready to reopen? >> i think we need to be careful to make sure we don't talk about america in totality. because there are so many different levels of outbreak and of involvement with this virus throughout the country that there will be some areas of the country which will really be much, much more attuned to and ready to be able to get more towards normality than others. i kind of refer to it as a rolling re-entry. there will not be, like, a light switch that you turn on and off and say, on this date, america will resume its normal activities. >> so regardless of time frame, because you say it will be a different time frame for different regions. but what needs to happen in order to reopen? >> what you must be able to do is have in place the capability of rapidly identifying by testing, getting someone who is infected out of the circulation. obviously taken care of, if they need medical help. if they can be handled at home. do contact tracing, do it in an efficient way, where it means something. not contact tracing, many, many, many days after an individual actually is exposed. >> dr. fauci, you've talked about testing and tracing as a necessary component. with all due respect, the american public watched weeks ago when testing was really important in this. and the very slow ramp-up. how do you convince them we're going to be ready to test all over again to try to reopen the country? you know, may 1st is just a couple of weeks away. >> so, david, what i'm hearing and seeing from the parties that are responsible for the upticking of the tests, making them available, is that we are doing extraordinarily better now than we were at the time when there really were some significant challenges. >> are you telling us there will be tens of millions of tests ready so that american families can feel confident about leaving their homes and re-entering society? >> david, i can't guarantee that, and i can't tell you that for sure. what i'm hearing from the people responsible for making sure these get out there is that we will have, it's not only just the federal government doing it. it's the private enterprise, the companies making and implementing these tests. >> will there be a second wave of infection in this country? >> we don't know that. i think we just have to be humble to realize, we do not know everything about this virus and what it's capable of doing. it's entirely conceivable that we will see a rebound as we get into a seasonal situation such as next fall or winter. >> in the meantime, i know you're aware of the reports out of south korea, and even some anecdotal reports from the u.s., of people coming down with this twice. do we have any idea whether or not these are new infections or a reactivation of coronavirus in the system? are you concerned about that? >> david, i can tell you, we do not know definitively whether these are reactivations or reinfections. also, not only that, is this, are these really rare outlier events, or is this something telling us something about the degree of protection? it's a challenge to find that out. the critical issue related to that, that people are asking, is that when you are infected, and you have an antibody, the protein that fights the virus, and you have a level of antibody in you, are you protected for a month, three months, six months, a year? those are things that we have to find out. but we don't have the answers to that right now. >> we know there's a handful of human trials under way for vaccines. you have said 18 months repeatedly. is there any way to speed this up? >> the answer is, yes. but not substantially, unless you have certain conditions. in order to be able to get a vaccine that you feel comfortable will be safe and i say not only safe 15 minutes after injection, that you don't get an allergic reaction, but safe in that it does not, if a person gets infected, actually make it worse. we may learn a bit earlier, a few months earlier, but i think any less than a year, i think anything less than that would be carving off a couple of months but not a lot more. >> that essentially takes us into next winter. i know a lot of people are concerned about parents, grandparents. will we have to be awfully careful with them, and perhaps keep a distance from them all the way through next january or february? >> david, if we get a rebound of virus in the community, which as i said is possible. it may not happen, but it's possible. if we do, and we don't have an effective and safe vaccine available, we will have to resort to the public health measures that have fared us rather well in many respects in the challenge we're going through right now. >> a very long road ahead. i also asked dr. fauci about antibody tests. he says when you have antibodies, generally speaking, you do have some immunity, but whether that's the same for this, that's unclear. we move on to the race for a vaccine and an accurate antibody test. diane sawyer's team on a new trial. the young man who thought he had some symptoms several weeks back. what the antibody tests showed. here's matt gutman. >> reporter: tonight, injection by careful injection, the race is on to find a viable vaccine for covid-19. in washington state, the initial epicenter of the crisis, neal browning volunteered for the trial. >> i feel like it's our job to step up and help out the rest of mankind. >> reporter: the other race tonight, the search for antibodies. in michigan, the nation's largest testing is under way. 38,000 beaumont health system employees asked to take part. lab manager tyler had a high fever back in february. but was it the coronavirus? he told our diane sawyer he tested positive for covid antibodies. >> what kind of relief did you feel when you heard this? >> it's kind of like a little bit of a weight got lifted because there are so many people that are getting affected by this, that it's just nice to know that i somehow got through it without too much issue. >> reporter: but tyler still waiting to find out if he is now immune to the virus. one of the keys to restarting the country. >> are you doing a preview of what it will be like to get a huge population back into their lives, back into the future? >> you know, that's what we hope to do with this. you know, part of the goal of this is to figure out how to get people back to work, how to get people back to a relatively normal life. >> reporter: some good news, from neal, he tells us so far he's had no side effects. david? >> matt, thank you. and overseas, some european nations taking the first steps to slowly reopen. in germany, some small stores will open next week. then schools will follow next month. and students are back in the classroom in denmark today. but just one child per table. and there are fears of a second wave not only here at home. china is reporting new infections this month. but they say the vast majority are from chinese nationals returning to their country. when we come back, big news from bill and melinda gates. what they told me about the three major phases they see coming in this country for so many of us. ure pushing down on ♪ ♪ pressing down on you, no man ask for ♪ ♪ it's the terror of knowing what the world is about. ♪ ♪ watching some good friends screaming 'let me out' ♪ ♪ this is ourselves ♪ under pressure ♪ now more than ever, we need the good stuff in life. togetherness, ♪ ♪ patience, ♪ ♪ laughter, ♪ ♪ love. milk. love what's real. all the way out here just for a blurry photo of me. oh, that's a good one. wait, what's that? 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how dense is the seating at restaurants? and the testing, so that you immediately see if you have that exponential rise in any part of the country, and you can go in there and make sure that you isolate and don't get up to a lot of people infected, which would cause a lot of death. so fixing that testing regime, we need to have that in place before we move to that next phase. >> so, do you have confidence? i mean, a lot of americans are gonna say, well, wait a minute. we just watched what happened when we really needed the testing in the beginning of this. the testing was just simply not there. are we gonna have tens of millions of tests ready in just a few weeks' time, to test folks before we try to re-enter society? >> well, the testing will move as we up the capacity so that the people who have the symptoms are, have been around somebody who tested positive, they'll get it sent to their home. we got the fda to approve a thing called self-swab where you don't need a medical person to do that, and it's, it's got still the high accuracy. >> we know the american people can do this. i think it's been really impressive to see how much people, i'll say specifically because we're here in seattle. but how quickly, as soon as the governor said and the health department said we should all start to work from home, you know, we can see the bridge from our house, and there are very few people going across that bridge in a car. and so i think people will need to realize that they need to do the right thing. >> yeah, melinda, i think you're absolutely right. i think americans deserve a lot of credit in this because they did listen to the warnings and they have stayed home, and i think they're just looking for reassurance now. and i'm struck, bill, by when you were talking about the phases, the semi-normal phase that you spoke of. that sounded like months and months of that, if a vaccine is still not until 2021. that's many, many months of this new normal. >> that's right. it's almost certainly over a year where large public gatherings likely won't be taking place. >> we're going to have a much longer conversation with them both on a vaccine, and whether there will be a second wave in our country, and whether we have immunity. tonight, 9:00 p.m. eastern on my instagram and the "world news tonight" instagram. what they'll reveal on their major donation. now $250 million. we're back with more on a major explosion, and the images coming in. working day in, day out. at&t is here. providing support with advanced services for first responders. and connected temporary hospitals, mobile testing sites and emergency management centers. because until their job is done, it is essential that we all have their backs. it's what we've always done. it's what we'll always do. there is one thing we can all do together: complete the 2020 census. your responses are critical to plan for the next 10 years of health care, education, and more. go online to 2020census.gov and help shape america's future. i've always loved and i'm still going for my best, even though i live with a higher risk of stroke due to afib not caused by a heart valve problem. so if there's a better treatment than warfarin, i'll go for that. eliquis. eliquis is proven to reduce stroke risk better than warfarin. plus has significantly less major bleeding than warfarin. eliquis is fda-approved and has both. what's next? 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