why rob portman is hopeful. mick mulvaney is warning. and steny hoyer is fighting mad. they're all here and only here. we begin with blake burman with the latest. blake? >> it's clear here in the halls of the capitol as house republicans mark up their bill and the senate will release their bill later this week. there's a host of issues to work through. earlier today, the club for growth, an influential republican group put out a note saying they have issues with four different things on the individual side of this house republican plan. here they are. top tax bracket for millionaires with the possibility that those that make in the low million dollar range can see the top end taxed north of 45%. they take issue with a portion of pass-through profits would be taxed 25%. growth. you had big deficits. it wasn't tax cuts that did it. cuts create growth and growth creates revenues -- >> neil: but you left out ronald reagan. >> i know. deficits didn't grow with him. the first two years were high because we phased in the tax cuts and had no growth whatsoever. once we started getting the growth, the revenues increased dramatically. >> neil: what you and i -- i'm trying to egg you on. >> i can feel the poke. >> neil: one of the things i noticed, more revenue comes in, if you see that from tax cuts -- history bears that out, whether republicans or democrats, they will spend the revenue. there's little opportunity and moments for republicans to address this. even tepidly trying to get a hand on spending what did you make of that? >> i make it that republicans are just ashamed of being themselves and get over it a and kennedy being rich. there's nothing wrong with being rich. there's something wrong with being poor. we want to make the poor richer. >> neil: what would ronald reagan think of these provisos he in here, a real rate that balloons north of 45% -- >> he would gag. we cut the highest rate from 50% to 20% and cut the corporate rates. we raised the lowest rate. we went 14 brackets to two brackets. we got rid of the deductions. just the things that these guys are putting back in. we had it and passed 97 to 3. hello! most of the democrats today like schumer voted for it. harry reid voted for it. they all voted for it. now they're playing nothing but politics. it's sickening. >> neil: do you see the bipartisan support? >> no. what i tried to do is with a number of democrats that i've talked to is talking about complaining going on. people say i'm not getting a tax cut. many people say with mortgage interest capped -- >> come on. >> neil: i'm telling you what they said. in expensive states like new york, california, illinois, massachusetts where you can't deduct your state and local taxes. will that be a provision as well? >> you'll like the senate bill. it's similar to the house bill -- >> neil: including no deduction for state and local taxes. >> no deductions for the state and local taxes. should the federal government subsidize -- >> neil: i understand that. but senators from though states, they're going to go ballistic. >> they need to look at the entirety of the package. it lowers tax rates and provides a tax relief, $1.5 trillion in tax relief to a lot of individuals in their states. in every group of taxpayers, there will be tax relief. it goes to the top. the stop will city pay their fair share. it won't be a tax cut in that sense. it won't be a tax increase for folks. looks, it's very clear that we have a broken tax code. everybody agrees with that. needs to be simpler, which this is and fairer, which this is. finally, the business side is totally broken. neil, you and i talked about this so many times. it's crazy that congress has allowed this to happen. there's a study out showing 4, 700 companies that should be american are now foreign just over the last 13 years because we didn't go to this kind of tax system. >> neil: do you have any proviso in the senate, senator, that would require companies that do get a tax holiday to bring this money back from overseas to hire workers, expand plants and equipment? what if they pour it into stocks? >> that's not necessarily what we're doing. we're not doing a holiday. what we're saying is there's a repatriation. they have to pay to move -- >> neil: i understand that. what if they don't take advantage of that on do what you think -- >> going forward then, it's not a holiday. it's permanent repatriation. so the other countries say your taxed where the income is earned. so you can bring it back without penalty. i don't think we should say to companies, we'd like you to invest here rather than there. they have to -- >> neil: will yours be paid for? the rap and the house plan is it doesn't add up and worsens the deficits. >> both will have the same approach, which is to say out of a roughly 44 trillion in taxes we'll have the next ten years, yeah a $1.5 trillion tax cut but that's based on a very low projection of economic growth. 1.9%, which is what cbo says despite two quarters with 3% growth a 25-year average of 2.5% growth. if it's under 2.5, 2.4, you'll so a reduction in the definite situation because more revenue will come in. >> neil: you know the rap around the house is they have squeezed all of this $5 trillion tax cut to to a $1.5 trillion budget frame work and not making it happen. >> it's a good structure because it focuses on the pro growth elements we talked about and immediate expenses. i think we'll have more than adequate growth to take care of the relatively smart part, 1.5 out of 44 trillion. we're assuming certain things like the current extenders of taxes won't happen. they always happen. that talks about $500 billion alone out. i feel confident. you'll like the senate bill. i think you'll see as we go through this process, yeah, there will be some partisanship and so on. when you look at the facts, this is good for middle class families and good for small businesses and good to make our international businesses competitive. that's what we have to do. if we don't do that, we have -- >> neil: and you're confident it will be >> yes. >> neil: all right. virginia and new jersey. two states with gubernatorial elections. did any of you catch what was going on in new jersey with chris christie having a dust-up with a voter just after voting? 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>> you know, neil, this race is very close. i think metrics show that ralph northam, the democrat, is likely to pull that out by a nose. it wouldn't surprise me at all the ed gillespie sneaks an upset. a small victory. he's closing stronger than the democrat. the democrats are nervous. what i would point out, in virginia the statewide office holders don't run as a ticket. so the governor and the lieutenant governor run separately. i can easily see ed gillespie eeking out a small victory but the democrat, the lieutenant governor, this attorney, justin fairfax who is exciting a lot of democrats could win it. could be a split state office slate there at the top in virginia. >> neil: we'll watch closely. fast-moving times. eric mcpike, thanks. what will happen for you and your money? we're covering this at 8:00 p.m. tonight. as long as it takes, including president of the united states speaking from asia on north korea. a lot happening concurrently. nobody gets better the intersection of wall street with your money and politics. we think that it matters to you. we all pay taxes more than get involved in the markets. we marry both. we will cover both. we'll be there as late as it takes because water told that pizza will be on the company. all right. plenty of pleasant tries back and forth in japan and south korea. china is a crucial player here. what is the president getting out of china in those talks? 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chagrinned? disappointed? >> yeah, this is going per plan. keep in mind how this works. we laid out our two principles. middle class gets treated like this, corporate class like that. those are the principles. we left it to the house and later to the senate to fill in the details. we work with them every day and can operating with him. we didn't write the legislation. that's congress ideal. they wanted that authority and got it. so we'll see what they come up with. we're helping where with can and pushing where we can. i'm not going to sort of give an opinion on what the final bill look like. we're along way from being finished here. >> neil: you're right about that. the senate finance committee will have their own plan and reconcile the differences. do you know at this point whether it will be a dramatic difference between what the house ways and means has come up with? >> i actually -- i get the gut, neil, there's not dramatic differences. that's why that frame work that we put out about eight weeks ago is so critical. that was a list of major principles that everybody agreed on. the house leadership, the senate and the white house. the fact that we hammered out those big issues before that legislative process started really is what gives me the confidence to say look, there's disagreements between the house and the senate but not on the big stuff. the corporate rate is 20%. the big pieces are established. you'll have disagreements on the smaller stuff but the basic principles are set. >> neil: people have gone back and forth on this and the timing of votes and everything else. you were quoted as saying that you were not confident there would be democratic votes there despite all the overtures republicans made to democrats to make this less of a rich tax cut. they still argue it's a benefit to the rich. so do you think that your colleagues, your old friends in the house, did a lot to win over and impressed democrats for nothing? >> i'm not sure that that quote that you just gave for me sounds like it was partially correct. if they know it is going to pass, many may vote for it. i spent talking more time in the senate in the house but the same principal applies. democrats are not in a place to give us the votes necessary to get it across the finish line. if we can convince them it's going to pass without their support, there's a bunch of democrats that think that this is good policy. >> neil: so it's more of a senate issue than a house issue? >> i think if we look at it because the margins are tighter in the senate than the house. >> neil: you're a big deficit hawk in your days in the house. everything was fair game for you to go after and the wrath against this tax cut given the rules that are in place here going back to the 70s and the bird room and all of that and making the numbers add up and balance out, it limits what you can do period. in the end, everyone seems to be disappointed. those that want big tax cuts, they're disappointed. people that want control over the deficit like john mccain, they're disappointed. was it worth it? >> oh, it's absolutely worth it. i still am a big deficit hawk. that's why i'm spending so much time on this bill and encouraging congress to pass it. the deficit equation is simple. it's revenues minus expenses. when you have revenues smaller than deficits -- >> neil: you'll have a deficit here. $1.5 trillion more. >> i don't think that number is right. i think senator corker, another big deficit hawk that that $1.5 trillion now is a smoke and mirrors number. the bottom line, two pieces. spending and revenues. we tried hard to draw attention to spending. the house and the senate in their wisdom chose not to take most of our spending reductions. that leaves us on the revenue side. we have to grow the economy and make us richer so the government gets richer and drives up the revenues. that's why i'm so focused on taxes. i need the growth to help reduce the deficit. >> neil: the timetable they have is to try to get this out of the house by thanksgiving. out of the senate and signed by the president by christmas. still doable? >> yeah. i think i heard senator mcconnell is threatening to bring the senators back the saturday after thanksgiving. i will buy your turkey if that happens. i think we're still on schedule. go back a couple weeks to where the house accented the senate version of the budget without any amendments. that saved us between 10 and 12 days depending how you count. that helped a lot. i think we're still on schedule to vote before thanksgiving. the senate to vote after that. both houses passed their separate bills before december. that allowed the conference committees to work out the differences before christmas. >> neil: maybe they don't need a lobby to whine on their behalf. but the top 1%, the very rich are ticked off and they feel they've been loyal supporters of the president, his policies and republicans in general. they feel they got the shift on this thing. what do you say? >> it depends. here's what i tell folks. when i go on your network, folks accuse me of raising taxes on the rich or us as our proposal. i go to any other network and they accuse of cutting taxes on the rich. sounds like we're in the center. in fairness, more seriously, you can't give an opinion on a specific impact on a specific taxpayer until you see a final version of the bill. what is important for the president -- i hate to repeat myself -- the president's fundamental principles were middle class pays less and it's simpler for them and fail and corporations get down to the 20% rate. that's what we focus on. the rest is up to the house and the senate. >> neil: we shall see. mick mulvaney, the budget director. if wall street had any worries about the back and forth, funny way of showing it. fourth time in a row, a record for the dow. more after this. 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>> i think it's based upon the bill fake news. clearly the analysis of the ball shows that some 41 million americans are going to get a tax hike of which 24 million are so-called middle class americans, middle income americans. so i don't know what mulvaney is talking about. >> neil: what he's talking about, sir, to be clear, is that if five years a lot of these credits expire. once those credits expire, then if they're not replaced, then yeah, at that time you're paying high taxes. what do you think? >> the law we're going to provide will analyze that. so what you're saying isn't true unless you change the bill. if they change the bill, if they change the projections or if someone legislation is passed in the future on which they're relying, maybe they can try to sell that argument. that's not the bill that's being considered today. very frankly, it blows a hole in the debt. president trump said he was going to balance the budget two months after he was in the presidency said i can't do that. defense is more important to me. frankly, one of the reasons we have this big debt, there's something that is more important to everybody, every region, every voter. >> neil: and both parties. democrats talking about the debt and deficits just as republicans prior. both parties spend like drunken sailors. >> neil, as you know, the budget was balanced four years in a row under bill clinton. the only president -- >> neil: what happened the last eight years? >> prior to trump? 88% increase in the debt under george bush, 87% increase. >> neil: i'm not casting political aspersions. i'm just wondering where the middle ground might be found. on this tax cut, do you subscribe to the belief that republicans are saying tax cuts he sometime hate revenues and growth and that goes a long way to paying this? you're in that camp that says no, not in this case? >> i'm not a dynamic scorer person. the reason, neil, i'm not, i think dynamic scoring is a gamble. do i think tax cuts or tax increases for that matter have an impact on spending and taxes? i do. so i don't think dynamic scoring is without a rationale. what i think it is a gamble. alan greenspan said these tax cuts will pay for themselves. five years later, he came back and testified before the ways and means committee, no, i was wrong, they don't pay for themselves. the conservative tax foundation has estimated that the increase in the debt under this bill -- this is the conservative think tank -- $989 billion. >> neil: you're right about that. what i'm curious about, sir, where we go from here. because what i do notice regardless what you think of this republican plan and a lot of warts in it to your point, we'll still have about half the people in the country pay nothing federal income tax at all. they still pay payroll taxes. there's fewer and fewer americans carrying the burden for this. i'm wondering whether there's room for a plan that includes everybody, everybody paying something. something into this. >> i tend to agree with that, neil, as you may know. frankly you say where do we go from here. where we ought to go from here is where we went under ronald reagan and tip o'neal. we ought to go to a place where in a bipartisan way we can agree on a number of things. number 1, i would not be for using dynamic scoring. if you get a bonus, if it has a positive result, then you have a bonus. you have extra money that you can apply to bringing down the dealt and investing in social security, healthcare, the national security. but you have a bonus. the problem is if you're not right and you lose, then you put a bigger hole in the debt. but we ought to come together in a bipartisan way. for instance, president obama three years ago said we needed to bring down the corporate tax. so essentially we have agreement that we ought to bring down the tax. there will be difference of agreement where you bring it down to, et cetera, how that works. so i think there's -- >> neil: john boehner said the former speaker said some choice things. but he said that the president broke an agreement that was part of a budget-making deal. so i guess what i'm asking you -- >> because you brought it up, let me say that i was in a meeting with the president on the thursday night harry reid, dick durbin, nancy pelosi and myself. i was majority leader then. we talked to the president. he said, what do you think about this deal? we didn't think it was a big enough deal. we said big enough deal in terms of paying down the debt. if in fact this is what we can agree on, we'll take the deal and we'll sell it to our members. what frankly happened is john boehner came back to the freedom caucus and others and they would not buy any tax increase, no revenues as you know. >> neil: that was a missed opportunity then. maybe hope springs eternal. >> let's hope. i would be willing to sit down and discuss that and work towards that end. >> neil: steny hoyer, thanks very much. sorry to jump on you there. thank you. >> thank you. >> neil: all right. before the polls close in virginia and a big race there that could decide how things are going next year? after this. when i look in the mirror everyday. when i look in the mirror everyday. everyday, i think how fortunate i am. i think is today going to be the day, that we find a cure? i think how much i can do to help change people's lives. i may not benefit from those breakthroughs, but i'm sure going to... i'm bringing forward a treatment for alzheimer's disease, yes, in my lifetime, i will make sure. eight hundred dollars when wet switched our auto and home insurance. with liberty, we could afford a real babysitter instead of your brother. hey. oh. that's my robe. is it? 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