Least 14 cities and counties in the United States have declared that racism is a Public Health crisis. And several others employed to do the same. If the states of michigan and ohio have now introduced legislation as well. Is this accurate, and where would this lead policy in these places. We are joined by will geronimo of the county of maryland that declared that racism is a Public Health crisis. And we will speak with the author and Hoover Institution senior fellow dr. Shelby steele that says that some of the efforts are hurting minorities instead of helping them. Also tonight, senator tim scott on the president s executive order on Police Reform in the senate bill, where is that going to go . He has now been told that there is not a lot of buy in on the Senate Republican side. We will find out what is going on there plus the crowd hypocrisy that the New York Post is calling sick. We will talk about that too. We begin tonight as promised with will joe mondo. Thank you very much for being here. Tell me why your counsel has declared this a health issue, racism, rather than just a societal issue . Thank you, martha. It is great to be back with you. Martha good to have you. We just passed a resolution today, a couple of things are very important here. When you look at the history of the United States, for most of that history 401 years since black people enslaved africans had arrived here and we have been discriminated against or enslaved for 80 of that time if you go back to the rights of 65, the last piece of legislation, if you look at health outcomes, one in four of my residency that i have the honor of representing that have died, one in four of the covid deaths are black people, when you look at maternal health, black women of three, they are four times more likely to die in childbirth even if they are highly educated and have a higher level of income and access to care. When you look at who gets hit on the roadways, pedestrian deaths, cars and buses, because of redlining in certain communities under invested and walkways are not available, so black and brown residents get hit by cars, trucks, and buses at a higher percentage. And when you look at the range you can look at education and Health Disparities as we talked about. At the root of the uses racism and institutional racism. Its not an individual thing. Its a systemic thing. So we have to draw that connection if we are going to disentangle it from our systems. And that requires policy change and budgetary changes. That is why it is important to call it and name it a Public Health crisis. Martha what do you think that africanamerican communities can do to get Better Outcomes and some of these situations . Well, you know, that is part of the problem is that i think all too often we have said, oh, well, you know, Life Expectancy for black americans is dramatically lower than white americans, thats because they are eating poorly or they are lolow income, or communities, te cause of this is systemic racism, if you have two people that have the same credit score and same underlying income and they going to get a home loan, studies have shown that the black candidates are denied with the same information that the white candidates have. If you look at serena williams, had to beg a doctor with all of her privilege and power to believe that she was sick enough to get a test that saved her life. Studies have also shown that doctors have that implicit bias and think that black people can handle pain and are less likely to be sick. So its not a problem that black people can solve on their own. We need the whole society. And it makes us poor as a society when we dont address it. Because you are losing productivity. You are losing life. You are losing peoples opportunity to succeed. So while it impacts black and brown people disproportionately, it is an american problem, one that we have had since the beginning of time since we created slavery and dehumanize black people and use them to prop up our economic system. We have to tell that truth, otherwise you cant solve it. We need a systemic solution to a systemic problem. Martha thank you very much for joining us with your perspective on that tonight. We all want the same good Better Outcomes in this country. It is a question of how to get there, and we thank you very much for your input and perspective tonight. Good to see you, sir. Thank you, martha. Good to see you. Martha with another perspective here tonight is dr. Shelby steele, senior fellow at Stanford UniversityHoover Institution, the author of shame, how americas past sins have polarized our country and finishing a documentary called what killed michael brown. Welcome back to the program this evening, your thoughts on what we just heard. Well, i certainly agree that racism continues to be a problem in american life. I think most people would acknowledge that. It has been here for a long time. And there will always be remnants of it, no matter what happens. I think our emphasis on racism as the source of our problems has distracted us from looking at our problems as they really are. But aside from racism. And it seems that racism has become in the thinking of many, racism has become a way to avoid the real problems. Martha which are . Lower education levels, the lower level of education, even as you are talking about here, the Health Problems and so for forth. Is there some racist movement in American Society to give blacks more bad Health Problems than other people . I dont think so. I think that if there is a disparity between white and black, that it does not mean that we need to change the whole society in order to fix it. It may be that solution is within our own communities. Our own culture, our own way of looking at the responsibilities of living in a free society. There are many and they are difficult. And sometimes they can feel like oppression itself, but it is a challenge of freedom. You know, i am in my heart of hearts, i am a malcolm x person. I love what he had to say. His focus on selfhelp, it seems to me that that is the variable that we have lost sight of by blaming racism for so many things. Because we blame them, and we get america has been generous, war on poverty, great society, affirmative action, school busing, public housing, higher welfare payments, on and on. And yet, we are worse off then we were when we had none of those things. With america in that sense, white america, out of many ways goodwill has taken our problems from us. And we will fix them. President johnson. We will bring you up to the starting line, and we will make what human nature does not work like that. We have to find the heart and the drive within ourselves, within our own community to lift ourselves up. To become whatever it is we want to become and stop just because we see a disparity, stop always blaming it on racism. And even if we do, even if it is racism, that does not excuse us. That is no i grew up in segregation. My parents my whole community, black segregated community, the fact that there was racism everywhere was not an excuse. It was an impetus if anything else. And thats what we have gotten away from, and when i see people coming around, oh, the city council, it just is its heartbreaking, because it is worthless. Not going to have any impact on those disparities that we are talking about here. Its not going to have any impact on any of those things. The individual and responsibility, that is the impact. Thats where you literally change things within the framework of a single life. Martha why dont we hear more of that argument . Its as if your arguments, anyone who agrees with you is in the wrong place, the wrong line of thinking right now, and he will get in big trouble for talking about the kind of things that you are talking about in the current conversation. Writes, it has to do with our history. There is a great of shame in what america did to black people. And whites acknowledge that. And its back in the 60s, but since that time, whites have been very vulnerable to being accused of racism. And they have it is compromised their moral authority. Weakened their power in american life. And so, there is in the white part of American Society, sort of a need to recover moral authority. So often white institutions will take our problems on, not because they want to fix those problems, but because it restores moral authority and power. I call that white guilt power. But it is the same. We then as blacks, we then become dependent on giving our problems to white america. And protesting, and demanding this and demanding that. Well, protests has exhausted itself. It is it is a parody at this point. It does not come anywhere near close to solving the real problems we have. The breakdown of the family. The low, low education levels of achievement that occur because of the Public School system, and because blacks have not insisted enough on real meaningful education. We have just sort of assumed that other people will fix that for us. Part of living in freedom is taking on responsibility for your fate. We have given our fate over to others. We keep begging others, larger society, fix it for us. There is racism here. There is racism they are. It is a fruitless ticket to nowhere. It has not worked, and it is not going to work. We have to take we can be innovated, and inspired by the challenges of freedom and responsibility. Martha dr. Shelby steele, senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, the author of shame thank you very much, sir. You and i have spoken a podcast that will be put up shortly as well. Dr. Steele, thank you very much, sir. Thank you. Martha coming up we will talk to senator tim scott who was with the president today, they had an emotional meeting with families who have lost loved ones in deadly interactions with the police. He is leading the way in washington on what they can do on reform and he joins me next. Stay with us. Congress has started already, and they will be having bills come out of the senate and possibly out of the house. And hopefully they will all get together, and they will come up with a solution that goes even beyond what we are signing today. Effortless is the lincoln way. 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Visit xfinity. Com moving today. To all of the hurting families, i want you to know that all americans mourned by your side. I can ever imagine your pain or the depths of your anguish, but i can promise to fight for justice for all of our people. And i gave a commitment to all of those families today with senator tim scott and attorney general bill barr. President trump at the white house signing an executive order on Police Reform, but the work in washington is just beginning as the attention of congress to take action, heres Chuck Schumer not exactly sounding like they are burying the hatchet together on this. Watch this. When it comes to Urgent National priorities, the republican majority is like a broken magic 8ball that keeps saying ask again later. The popular issues of Police Brutality and social justice has reached the tipping point. There is no reason to wait. There is no reason to delay. Martha here was senator tim scott out of south carolina. Always good to have you here. Thank you for being here. I want to ask you about this legislation, but i just want to get your reaction to the two very different viewpoints that we heard as we were waiting to come on tonight from my two guests. What did you think about that . Really fascinating conversation part i think that Shelby Steele hit on two very important points. Racism is an issue, but racism is not the issue. If racism is the issue, then youre not a solution in your life. I can tell you as a kid growing up in poverty, mired with hopelessness that i lost my way. I almost flunked out of high school. I decided that the world was my problem, and that i had no ability to change my future. I was dead wrong. A strong powerful mother and a mentor taught me that anyone from anywhere at any time in this country can sort to heights never imagined by that individual. I embrace that concept in my life took a 180degree turn in the right direction. So shelby said it really well. From an education perspective, if you are looking to bring our country closer together and close a racial divide, we have to have more parents saying enough is enough. At the poor zip code should not be a correlation for the poorest educational outcomes. We have to have parents and citizens saying no more from an economic stability and economic mobility message. Opportunity zones will bring 75 billion into the most distressed communities in the country. That means we can create entrepreneurs in the places where there are no jobs. I became an entrepreneur and it changed my Financial Life and my mothers as well. And racism is in issue, it is not the issue. And irresponsibility has to be embrace for the Human Flourishing to hit maximum potential. The response continues around this country whether it is ben carson, jason halliburton, and so many examples of people who have decided that enough is enough. I must be responsible and as a responsible american, i am going to do the hard work even if it is a little bit harder and i will get amazing results. And i will say this country stand strong. It is the most powerful optimistic nation on earth. Martha that is a good message and we have to get back there. I know that you are absolutely trying to lead the way on this. Legislation that would go a long way in Police Reform, you heard from senator Chuck Schumer, looks like democrats are not lined up with you on this. So what kind of change can we expect to come out of the senate in this bill . We have an amazing opportunity to say to the American People, we hear you, the Police Unions are perhaps a part of the problem on the left. They say that there are poison pills that they are not willing to discuss and other things that they want in the life of legislation, 175 of the legislation, the Senate Legislation and house legislation all line up to be the same things. Will the Senate Democrats not come to the table and negotiate when you have three out of the four items that you want. If they are more interested in having the issues than the solution, that tells me that potter potters partisan politics will roll this out, anl will come to the table and negotiate for the type of results that this nation once. Martha what a great point. People are so torn and afraid of what is going on in the country right now and when they look at the transitions on capitol hill over these issues that seems like they should be solvable, this is nancy pelosi talking about it and then i want your response to her. For the leader of the senate to say, it is going nowhere, we dont even we dont want any of that is really disgraceful. We all know that we need to have guidelines. We need to have data facing. We need all of those things. But we also need to have some serious legislation to make sure that it happens nationally. Martha where the areas of agreement, can you get there and can you get there before that july 4th recess . What i just heard from speaker pelosi, god bless her, but part of the things that she said that i agree with is that the bill deals with Data Collection and more information so we know what is going on in agencies around the country. With good information that leads to the second charge which is training, training, and training we can provide training on deescalation and talk about so the necessity to intervene. We have the resources pointing in the right direction when you have the right data. So we agree on both of those points. Officer of misconduct. We are in the same place. We want to eliminate the bad apples. What they want to do is go so far that they introduce poison pills in their legislation, and thats why Mitch Mcconnell said it is a nonstarter for those poison pills. We could have talked about the certification of officers, except for the democrats think that that is a poison pill, because the Police Unions say that is a nonstarter. So they are not willing to have that conversation. So we did not put that in the bill. So what we have a 75 of what they say they want, we can start there. If she is not willing to come to the table, if Chuck Schumer is not willing to come to the table, i hope the American Voters come to the table and say enough is enough. Martha look at the Police Officer in minneapolis now fired on the other one now fired in atlanta who had things on the record that should have shown up