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panel. make sure you tune in. it will be a big night. five primaries. they are all in the east, mid-atlantic. be sure you don't miss it. greta goes on the record right now. tonight on the record, ganging up on trump. senator ted cruz and john kasich are doing that. the two trump opponents striking a deal to derail trump. their goal to deny trump the gop nomination but trump is not taking this lying down and immediately aimed fresh attacks between eyes of his two opponents. >> they announced they are pulling out, leaving this as a direct one on one choice for the people of indiana between our campaign and donald trump. >> it takes two guys long time politicians to try to get-together to try and beat trump and yet they are way behind. >> i don't see this as a big deal. i'm not going to spend resources
in indiana. he won't spend them in other places. so what. >> i've never seen a human being eat in such a disgusting fashion. i'm always telling my young son, i'm saying always with all my kids i say, children, small little bites. small. this guy takes a pancake and shoving it in his mouth. it's disgusting. do you want that for your president? i don't think so. >> there's desperation on the trump side. >> if yyou collude in the stock market or in business but if you collude in politics you can collude. it shows how weak they are. it shows how pathetic they are. >> the two of us are competing to win the nomination and make
sure we can steward our resources to stop hillary clinton. >> nominating trump will be a disaster for conservatives, republicans, for the country. >> it's disgusting when two long time politicians have to collude to get-together to beat a guy that speaks what the people want. > >> 2016 presidential candidate himself, mike huckabee goes on the record. nice to see you back. >> it's very entertaining seeing all of that. but what it really gets down to it, i think it's going to be very difficult for cruz and kasich, even teaming up to overcome the momentum that donald trump has going into tomorrow and then coming out of it. i'm just not sure their plan really works. it looks like they are more inned in stopping trump than stopping hillary. >> do you think that each one thinks that by doing this he can get the nomination or do you
think the goal is simply we've had it with trump, we're going to do everything we can. we'll throw nails under his tires. >> well just a few weeks ago ted cruz was saying that john kasich should dropout of the race because he did not have a path to get the nomination. ted cruz is there. will ted cruz dropout of the race because he doesn't have a pathway. that's going to be one of the questions reporters will be hammering him with over the next several days. >> is there any issue of credibility if you have no mave. but do people lose credibility along the way? >> only if they say something that they then don't prove to even stand by.
for example, if ted cruz says you got to get out if you don't have a pathway. then you don't get out. then you lose credibility. if you say look i'm going full board. i know i won't get the nomination. at least not before the convention, but i'm going and i'm going to get it on the second, third down i'll blow the whole thing up and that's how i plan to get it. cruz has had this problem. early on he said he would win iowa and then south carolina all the sec states. he would lock it up. it didn't happen. he won iowa and lost every where. all those sec states. until he turned it around in texas, you know, it wasn't happening. he did not get the votes that he said he was going to get. >> have you endorsed or have you decided who you'll vote for? >> no. i've not endorsed. and, you know, i voted for me. i like me. i thought i was the best candidate. i'm sitting here talking to you
so that didn't work out. what's that? >> i think you'll have a chance to vote in the election in november. >> i'll absolutely vote for the republican. if ted cruz, john kasich, donald trump, doesn't matter. our nominee is going to get my support and my vote. because look i'm a republican. i pledged i would do that and i'll keep my word to that. >> any thoughts about donald trump saying it's disgusting the way governor kasich eat? >> let's face it, donald trump says a lot of thing because it amuses him and his audience. honestly i think trump would be better off if he would leave off stuff like that because if he's focusing on jobs and immigration and the things that brought him to the first place, i just think that's the message that people really are connecting to and really nobody cares whether john kasich eats a pancake in one bite and the truth is if you're a candidate and i've been one
for many years over the past 25 years, you go to a lot of places and people hand you food and they want you to try it and eat it. and, yeah, you do some disgusting things along the way. i don't think that hurts kasich at all. i don't think it helps trump at all to talk about his culinary habits. >> i think in all fairness to everybody involved we did a lot of talking that kasich use ad fork while eating pizza. we're as guilty about that discussion. thank you very much, governor. now we go outside the pennsylvania arena where trump is about to take the stage. and that big day tomorrow is when voters across the key stone state hit the polls and 71 gop delegates will be the grand prize. what are voters saying? >> reporter: well, greta, inside donald trump making his third
and final appeal to pennsylvania voters here in wilkes-barre, pennsylvania, in the northeast part of the state. it hold 7,500 to 10,000 folks. be interesting to see whether he gets on that famous cruz. outside we were talking to supporters. you can see them now still going in. it sold out. the folks here certainly not impressed by the cruz-kasich alliance. there's not much protest. there's about half a dozen, i count about six protesters here and we begin the day, actually, before we were at this event, greta down on main street in this small blue collar town. here's what voters had to say. take a look. >> i'm going to vote for donald trump. i'm a hard core republican and i really believe in what he has to say. i think now is our chance. make america great again. get out and vote. >> did you hear this news about cruz and kasich forming an
alliance to stop trump. what do you think of that? >> it leads me to believe that there's even more reason for me to vote for mr. trump. >> i think it's almost criminal. >> i love bernie sanders. he's great. he seems like a really honest guy. but at the same time trump seems like he is a businessman. we never had a businessman do anything before. . >> i'm voting for bernie sanders because i love everything about him. >> two young women. does a first female president matter at all to you? >> no, it doesn't. it's nice but far more important that i feel more like. >> i feel with hillary same thing with obama. so i want something different. >> i think trump will make it. who's with me? come on. >> he says it like it is and he's not afraid to stop up for america and he doesn't care because he doesn't have to answer to anybody except the american people.
>> so, just moments away from the final speech from donald trump. mr. trump will go back to trump tower where he'll watch the results coming in. so what about the body block those two candidates are hoping for or will trump roll over those two men? our political panel is here. do you know how this deal came about, who brought it up first? >> something that's been brought up for a while by the kasich team. there was talk between both campaigns when they were in florida for the rnc spring meeting. cruz seemed more open to the idea partly because of the numbers in indiana which is a must-win for ted cruz realizing he needed to do everything hed picture. >> is it possible this will
work? >> this is like one of those celebrity marriages you know that will not end well. there's so many problems with this. so many thing have to go right for the strategy to work. first both candidates have to keep their word. then you're talking about tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people say okay i won't vote for the guy i want i'll vote for another guy to block a third guy to prevent from becoming president. we're late in the whole process. i don't think this is the kind of thing that moves the needle. >> the food fight today literally over the way governor kasich eats, now we do have a food fight that's about food. what in the world is going on there? >> it was one of those moments -- it was interesting because trump and kasich have been relatively nice to each other. trump doesn't reference kasich that often, doesn't have a nickname for him. >> does now.
>> the number changed throughout the day. >> which reflected apparently the fact that kasich won one state and didn't win others. >> it's a side show. does hit our point. kasich did look kind of goofy eating in front of everybody. >> this is the new donald trump. this is the more presidential donald trump. trump is the first one to say there are two donald trumps. there's the trump let trump be crowd. let's reign him in and be more presidential. he was fired up in the wake of this deal. he goes back to the form that got him here, right. that's what people pay to see or not pay to see they go to these events. they are drawn to the message. >> why are you voting for trump. because he's going to make america great again. >> that's what the hat says. >> his branding is resonating with them. they don't say what that is. what's he going to do to make us great? >> well, i think that allows
people to pour whatever they think that is in donald trump's candidacy. there's not a lot of policy meat here on the bones for donald trump but there's hope from people who are frustrated. >> that's the same thing from senator ted cruz. he says he's for the constitution. what does that mean? i can't really blame the candidates, they are down to slogans. they have slogans and don't communicate much. >> there's an old saying you campaign in poetry and govern in prose. this is not a poetic year. the slogans are what catches on. even this idea of the teamwork to block is a fascinating piece of strategy behind-the-scenes, but the fact is we're going into unprecedented cycle all the way throughout the convention. >> the viewers bringing you in on this alliance, this is your chance to vote on twitter. do you think cruz-kasich anti-trump alliance will help those two or back fire? use the word help or back
fire #greta. help or back fire. >> i think it aedes a potential to backfire. this is something as rick was saying, in theory it could work. in practice it doesn't work. and i think that it plays into a lot of messages trump has had about, throughout the campaign, you know, about politics as usual. back room deals. cutting these deals between cruz and kasich rallies up trump supporters. >> a lot of viewers, 83% agree with you it backfires. >> that takes longer to type. >> especially if you have chubby fingers on the iphone like i do, it's harder to do. >> this is not plan a, b or c. it's like plarch q. i don't know what the down side is trying this. i don't know it has a big potential payoff. >> they give so much ammunition to donald trump. it plays into his sort of
strategy. it's almost like they did him a favor with this. >> it wreaks of desperation. >> that's what trump says. >> romney proposed this two months ago anti-trump forces have been trying to do. it's late in the game. >> gentlemen thank you both. later tonight presidential candidates donald trump and senator ted cruz will both join sean hannity. here a preview. >> it's collusion. in business you go to jail for that. it's collusion where they are coming together because they are getting beaten badly. cruz is getting killed. he was reduced to nothing in new york. he got almost no votes. the guy has practically nothing. no delegates, no nothing. kasich is doing terribly. kasich is one for 42. if i would have campaigned two more days in ohio i would have won. kasich is doing terribly. where we are now nobody will get to 1237. only way to win the nomination is earn a majority of the delegates and nobody will do that. i won't do that but neither will
donald trump. which means we're headed into to a contested convention. we'll go into cleveland. i'll have a ton of delegates. he'll have a ton of dels. it will be a battle to see who can hearn the majority of the support. i think in that battle we'll have a tremendous advantage. >> you do not want to miss both those candidates tonight with sean at 10:00 p.m. eastern. hear the entire interview with donald trump and senator ted cruz. sean hannity. a big announcement from president obama after repeatedly saying he would not, president obama is now sending 250 more americans to syria to fight isis but the president specifically saying they are not combat troops. lieutenant colonel olivier north is standing by. also nfl superstar tom brady headed to the supreme court. major deflate gate news coming up. a big night tonight. we will spend the entire hour with donald trump, a special on the record town hall from indianapolis wednesday night at 7:00 p.m. eastern. do not miss it.
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the deployment of up to 250 additional u.s. personnel in syria including special forces to keep up this momentum. they are not going to be leading the fight on the ground, but they will be essential in providing the training and assisting local forces they don't drive isil back. >> that was president obama announcing he will send 250 special operations forces and others to syria to join the fight to destroy isis. the sum total of 250 troops are not expected to engaging combat operations.
lieutenant colonel olivier north goes on the record. why now. is 250 a good number? >> 250 is a lot better number than we heard a few weeks ago who suggested 50,000. 250 of these kinds of troops going into syria, they are not going to land in syria, they are going to land in kurdistan and helicoptered or trucked over is a good idea because that's the way to win this thing in the long term. unfortunately, this president's rhetoric is not being matched by reality. he also said and i quote this from the same remarks. these terrorists are doing everything in their power to strike our cities and kill our citizens so we need to do everything in our power to stop them but we're not doing everything in our power. the reason we're not is because moderate sunnis, whether they are in anbar province or in syria or in turkey, don't trust us. because of what we've done with iran. the sunnis are more afraid of iran than they are of isis. and what needs to happen at this
point is we've shown a commitment, we're doing the right things by training those who can fight back but what we really need to be doing is engaging the egyptians, saudis, jordanians and i don't see that happening and it's not happening because of their fear of iran. >> why now? so many times the president said he wasn't going to do it. what's the catalyst now? >> we're in serious trouble over there. isis is controlling less territory in places like iraq. they are actually threatening a large part of the rest of the world. they now have bases, safe-havens in places like libya and we men and the only country that's not been attacked in the middle east, the only country that has not been attacked by isis is iran. think about this. so what isis presents is the very strong reality they will make a diplomatic overture to be recognized by the united nations. the effort he made in europe is great but the saudis won't sign
on because the russians made a far greater commitment with their sa 300s that are being sent into iran. the iran elephant in the room is the real problem here. >> if you and i were having a conversation about this in the middle of the summer what would you expect that conversation to be looking into the future. >> you have 4,000 american troops on the ground in iraq. 10,000 parked in of all places kuwait. you now have 300 and more by the end of the summer inside syria. what really has to happen is this president has got to -- the courage of these young americans who are now on the ground out there have to be matched by kurds with a commander-in-chief. so all this about his spokesman saying this is not combat there was a marine staff sergeant killed a few weeks ago who wasn't going to be in combat. he was killed by incoming isis rocket fire. you can't tell me you go to war and not be in combat. >> thank you, sir. the sudden death of music icon
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donald trump is on stage right now in pennsylvania. trump is hoping that tomorrow is another big trump primary day. as he rolls closer and closer, 1237 delegates, but with the news breaking that ted cruz and
john kasich plot ad back room deal to take down trump many voters feel their votes won't count if there's a contested gop convention and donald trump is into that frustration. >> how do you vote for a guy who has lost by four or five million votes, who is hundreds and hundreds of delegates down, who has lost let's say i'll have 40 states, 32 states, 35 and they will have like 13, 14. and now we're going to pick the guy. we're going to pick a guy that over a year got creamed. right? got creamed. we're going to let him. you explain how that's done. you would have a revolt. >> 2016 presidential candidate and donald trump supporter dr. ben carson goes on the record. good evening. i take it by donald trump saying you will have a revolt he done mean people will take to the steets and burn down the
country. i'm guessing he meant that the republican party and many people would be unhappy some would not turn out the vote and some may raise hell. >> people need stop and recognize the reason why this is an unusual year, the year of the outsider people are tired of all the crap that has been going on for all these years. and all the manipulation of the people. this country is supposed to be centered around the people. this is just another manifestation, this new alliance with cruz and kasich. of the status quo. this is not what people want. charles koch came out and said maybe hillary would be better. are you kidding me? they are getting desperate. this is a time when the people will have to stand firm and really make their will known because if they don't do it this
time they may not have a chance. >> this time around what donald trump has done is that he has put a spotlight on how the sausage is made, each state has a different set of rules and people are learning for the first time what different states do. some people just don't like that. those are the rules. but they don't like what they are learning how this is done. do you agree or disagree. >> that's exactly correct. i was talking to someone at the rnc gathering last week in hollywood, florida, and talking about all these different manipulations in the different states. it rapidly dawned on me that this person doesn't even realize that that's wrong and that it doesn't look right and doesn't feel right and doesn't reflect the will of the people. they are so deep into it that they can't even objectively look at it. >> so the problem is those are the rules. this is the way the republican party for whatever reason has
set it up. state by state. each party has had a chance to create the rules. these are the rules. >> that's stupid. just, you know, we can see now that it doesn't work and that it doesn't reflect the will of the people. this is a perfect time for the leadership in the republican party to say, you know what? we need to look at how we change this to reflect the will of the people. if -- somebody has to be fair. i don't think it's going to be the democrats. so the republican party has a tremendous opportunity here if they will seize upon it and stop acting like typical politicians. >> dr. carson, nice to see you, sir. >> and the fight for spaens bruiser. the keystone state is a delegate jackpot and it's tomorrow. 71 gop delegates up for grabs. who knows about pennsylvania like nobody else, senator rick santorum. before we get into pennsylvania as you sat down you told me that
this alliance stuff is not no. >> no four years ago newt and i had a conversation -- >> newt gingrich. >> how can we stop mitt romney. we were this time. we started first of january as opposed to first of february four years ago. we were trying to figure out a way. but in the end i looked at it as, you know, newt -- this is where ted was -- you have to get out of the race and dividing the vote and that's why i don't under what cruz and kasich will do, continue to divide the vote doesn't benefit either one of them. one of them should get out of the race. it's too late for that. i want to make one point that ben carson said. the idea that this election process does not reflect the will of the people is just simply not true. much, much more than any previous year because of what happened to me and others in 2012, which is you had folks
like iowa. i won iowa but i got two votes at the convention. why? in the delegate selection process ron paul went in and threw that delegate selection, stole my vote. even though i won the state. so they changed the rule to say that on the first ballot you have to vote for whoever won your state. so i would make the argument that if trump was playing under the rules four years ago he would be ticked off. this time around he has some protection. >> if trump wins statewide that guarantees 71 delegates up for grabs but only get 17 statewide, 54 up for grabs. how does that work. >> each congressional district elects three. three times 18 is 54 so we have people running without any affiliation as to who they are for. so the campaigns have to run a grassroots campaign for everybody who supports them running for delegate in their
respective congressional districts. >> see, those are the rules. but that doesn't seem fair. those are the rules. he wins statewide. >> no delegates were ever committed four years ago. none of the delegates were committed. so everyone ran that way and instead of having 17 super delegates which is what we had last time the state chairman picked the 17 and voted for whoever he wanted them to vote for. it doesn't seem fair but better than it was four years ago for trump. >> oh, brother. senator, nice to see you. >> you bet. >> a desperate manhunt is on for the killer or killers who executed eight family members. do police have any leads? that's next. plus where was i friday night and why did i not do the show? we'll find out straight ahead. allergies. and i'm doing just fine. claritin provides 24-hour relief of symptoms that can be triggered by over 200 allergens.
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over the weekend i flew to ecuador to put the spotlight on this humanitarian crisis. ♪ if you've ever been to any place that has been hit by an earthquake, you see the you wanter destruction. the scene is all too familiar. one minute all these people's lives are fine, ordinary, and the next minute the earth does the unthinkable, shakes these areas. shakes it so badly homes are destroyed, lives are lost. >> the floor was shaking and things started to fall down like light poles. the land was opening. it was coming up. the land was coming up. >> there are over 500 deaths here in ecuador from this earthquake and it's been hit by terrible after shocks. you can see just by looking at
some of the devastation behind me. look at the buildings. look at the destruction here. it's absolutely horrifying. people's lives turned upside down. the odor here, the stench is horrible. there's no way of us knowing whether people got safely out of these buildings or not because we go block by block and see these lives turned totally upside down. you can see inside their houses. you can see bricks. you can see keyboards. you can see buildings collapsed. and to the extent that any of these buildings have survived is that they may look like some of them survived but they have huge cracks in the wall. we don't know if they will fall. we don't get close to these buildings because we don't know if parts will fall off. look at the size. >> one of the big problems here is there's no water. and so they are delivering water in these trucks and different cars. when a water truck shows up everybody ran down to queue up.
they got guards with machine guns. people will fight for water. >> look at the size of the line for not much water. >> this line developed in less than a minute. >> this line is the line on the other side. >> greta, when you think of the city, you take water for granted and these people, the water pipes are broken. so the water is turned off. and they are standing in line just for a bottle of water. they won't get gallons of water they will just get a bottle of water. >> not everybody will get water. there's not enough water for these people. >> not nearly enough. i don't know what they will do. this is something we want to do is to be involved in water distribution like this. it's an easy thing to do. we can get trucks and haul water. that's something we'll do. >> just the basics need to get here fast. that's the other thing. how many days out from this earthquake and they need the basics. they need water. >> they have to have water.
all of us need water. >> look at the wires here. there's no electricity here at night. absolutely none. so they have no water. they have no electricity. they have no food. they have no stores. >> i think this is one of the hardest hits of the cities. you can still smell the stench of death and you can see building after building has collapsed here. >> one thing that's regrettable there's not a lot of international media here. i'm told i'm the only international media that's shown up. this is a country in great need and death and destruction is all around us. it will take a very long time to get this even remotely cleaned up and these lives, i don't know if they will ever be put back together. >> it's a psychological problem forever, old people, young people. they will never fix it. never. >> you can see much more
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re-opened. and a major legal blow to bill cosby, a pennsylvania appeals court rejecting cosby's attempt to throw out his criminal case. he's facing trial over a 2004 encounter at his home with a then temple university employee claiming she was drugged and then sexually assaulted by cosby. cosby's lawyers unsuccessfully argued he had an immunity deal. tom brady suspended. a federal appeals court siding with the nfl and slapping brady with a four game suspension. back in january 2015 the league punished the patriots for using underinflated footballs. league officials suspended brady saying he knew what was going on
but brady fought back in september. a judge reversed that four game suspension. today that changed again. the suspension now is reinstated. brady is getting some support from hisreinstated. brady is getting support from his friend, donald trump. >> let's start by saying leave tom brady alone. leave him alone. leave him alone, he is a great guy. it's enough, it's enough. >> boston globe sports reporter going on the record. ben, i imagine people are not happy in boston tonight? >> no, i think they're ready to take to the streets with torches and pitch forks again, not happy about the prospect of tom brady most likely having a four-game suspension this fall. and it was not like it lengthened it or put the ball back in a different court or they didn't say roger goodell you do your appeal again, they said no, tom brady we want you to serve this
suspension, roger goodell was within his rights to do it. it's not looking good for the patriots star quarterback. >> has brady said anything, or the owner or roger goodell said anything today? >> kraft and brady and the patriots organization has been quiet today. we have not heard from tom brady himself. all we've heard is that he intends to fight it all the way, good luck getting a case about deflated footballs in front of the supreme court. they released a statement, mostly about roger goodell thanking the court of appeals saying they long believed that they gave brady the powers to rule how he sees fit. he determined that tom brady violated the integrity of the game and determined to give him a harsh game suspension, and the courts ruled that even if the science was flawed and they
didn't prove anything, well, they decided to give roger goodell the power. >> did the players association speak out yet? >> they did, again they released a statement saying they were disappointed in the decision and were going to look into their next option. it could be what is called an en banc appeal, where they put it in front of all 21 justices in the circuit. so i think a small margin of them are heard, the other long shot would be the u.s. supreme court and that will be an uphill battle for tom brady, they are exhausting them, but it is not looking good for tom brady right now. >> i could imagine if this happened in green bay or brett favre, or aaron rogers, the town would be on fire about it. >> boston is not happy about it.
they're very passionate about their sports, tom brady brought a lot to this region. and frankly the nfl didn't prove a whole lot, there are a lot of things that make you scratch your head. they didn't prove that tom brady was involved in this situation, and four-game suspension does seem a little harsh. >> on the lighter side, there was a tweet from comedian ron white, talking about it. he tweeted tom brady has to sit out four games, yeah, go stay in a mansion with a super model. that will teach him. anyway, i know the fans are very disappointed and we'll see what happens with this. ben, thank you very much. thank you. and coming up -- doesn't senator bernie sanders know that we have videotape? my off the record is next. with my moderate to severe ulcerative colitis, the possibility of a flare was almost always on my mind. thinking about what to avoid,
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let's all go off the record. is he a hypocritehypocrite, or just have a great wife? i'm talking about presidential candidate bernie sanders, he brags that his wife does his taxes. i don't know what yours are, but i do know what bernie sanders' are. but before i get to that here is a feeling of feeling the bern. >> we're going to get to that, the richest people and largest corporations start to pay their fair share of taxes. there is always money for tax breaks for billionaires. >> the richer are getting richer, many of them pay a lower tax rate than many working people. >> okay, now this, according to his tax return, he and his wife made $271 of taxable income in 2014. now, that income level
places him about in the top 5% of earners in the nation, it's not the top 1%, but before the top 5%, so what is his tax rate? 35%? no, 25%? no, 15%? no, not that either. try 13.5%. he is almost in the top 5% of income and he pays less than 14% tax rate. who is getting burned? and by the way, what is his wife's phone number? i could use her accountant skills doing my taxes. that is my word. and in pennsylvania, senator ted cruz the only 2016 candidate not in the keystone state. senator cruz is holding a rally in franklin, indiana, and get out the vote in the philadelphia city hall. and senator bernie sanders also holding a get out the vote event, but senator sanders is in the university of pittsburgh. and in a screening right now, do you think the cruz/john

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