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working. tonight there are rough over 3,s putting the death rate at roughly 1.8%. this is "fox news @ night," i'm shannon bream in washington. we are here to bring the very latest facts tonight and every night. early on your member critics said it would take weeks for the navy hospital ship comfort two weeks new york. she is there now and so is rick leventhal. good evening, rick. >> good evening, shannon. the last time the u.s. comfort docked in new york city it was just after 9/11 to offer support for first responders. and now she's back, offering relief and a morale boost to the medical workers who are overwhelmed by the influx of covid-19 patients. the u.s. comfort arrived here this morning bringing 1,000 beds, 1200 doctors, nurses, surgeons, and other staff, and 12 operating rooms handle noncoronavirus patients and allowing hospitals to focus on the pandemic. >> the ship arriving is not just an example of help arriving in a physical form, it's not just about the beds and the doctors and equipment, it's also about hope. >> the soldiers in this fight are our health care professionals. it's the doctors, it's the nurses, it's the people who are working in the hospitals. it's the aids. they are the soldiers who are fighting this battle for us. >> those front when workers are being stretched thin with cases continuing to climb and resources running low, but just how thin and how low is up for debate. one report today suggested workers in new york's hospital were down to one mask a day, putting staff and their families at risk, but a spokesman from outside tells fox news the report is false, that every health care worker has access to personal protective equipment and they are following all cdc and new york city guidelines. meanwhile, more masks, gloves, and gowns are being flown and trucked in here, but refrigerated trailers are not also being parked outside the city's major hospitals and more, to provide overflow storage for the dead, with more than 100 dying in the city in a single 12 hour stretch. new york state now has more than 67,000 positive cases, more than 38,000 in new york city, with at least 1218 dead, that's more than 40% of the entire country's dead. but the rate of new infections, as you mentioned, is slowing and more field hospitals are being built to handle the overflow, including 14 tents in central park. assemble by samaritan's purse to handle up to 68 respiratory patients, including ten intensive care beds. >> we expect to be full by the end of the day tomorrow. mount sinai is going to be sending us transfer patients from the unit because they are already overwhelmed. >> shannon, we also wanted to show you tonight new york's iconic empire state building, which is often lit up in different colors and tonight it is lit up like an ambulance to honor first responders and medical professionals on the front lines of new york city's coronavirus outbreak. it is bright red with white and red revolving lights around the top to resemble a siren. it is a remarkable site, shann shannon, in a remarkable time in this city which i have never seen. no one has ever seen what we are seeing here now, with the streets barely moving, very, very quiet, an eerie feeling, but some signs of hope, including the comfort now docked behind us. >> shannon: we are glad she is arrived at that you were reporting, rick, thank you. the president showing up in a rapid fire test get in the rose garden tonight, evidence he says of progress and a valuable tool in the fight against covid-19. what has correspondent kevin corke has details for us tonight, hey, kevin. >> the president actually told a gathering in the rose garden today that about a million americans had already been tested for coronavirus and while it is true that that is less then about 3% of our overall population, that is far in excess of any other country in the world, but that fact is actually happening i made sharp rise in cases across the country and those cases, in many cases, are unfortunately hitting some of those hot spots especially hard. making progress. that was president trump 'this message today at his coronavirus task force briefing in the rose garden. mentor spot spotlight the unique and increasingly necessary partnership between the federal government and private enterprise to combat the spread of the disease. >> everyone of us has a role to play in winning this war. every citizen, family, and business can make the difference in stopping the virus. >> a virus that has claimed more than 3,000 lives, hammering cities like new york and los angeles, while others like detroit and new orleans see an ever increasing tide of new cases, a tide that's already seen the number of confirmed and suspected deaths from covid-19 top 100 in at least six states. >> sending a lot of things to michigan because that's becoming a hotbed. especially a specific area, as you know, it's become very it's become -- i don't know, could even at some point supersede, but it's got to be taken care of. >> the president of posthumous comments, sp or grow among some that with so much attention being paid to large population centers, that smaller cities might get overlooked. cities like new orleans for example, where there is a large senior population and the need for more medical facilities is especially acute. >> if there's another mercy ship, we needed to come to the port of new orleans because we are at the point where we are going to need that for extra capacity. >> new orleans is a hot spot. our biggest concern is ventilators. we understand in louisiana that we may think we control nature, but nature really controls us. >> meanwhile, the effort to control the spread of the virus got a boost today as ford and g.e. announced a partnership they said would produce 50,000 ventilators over the next 100 days and 30,000 per month as needed to treat patients affected by the virus. interesting, shannon, the concerns are so great about the spread of the virus that some states, believe it or not, are actually limiting entrants from other states. texas for example, if you try to drive into texas from louisiana weather has has been a spike in cases, they are actually asking you to self-quarantine for 14 days and yes, you'll be stopped by a state trooper and not everyone who tries to drive into the lone star state can get them from louisiana. shannon. >> shannon: spreading across the country, this idea, we are going to talk more about this coming up. thank you so much, good to see you. >> you too. >> shannon: new jersey police broke up a 47-person party in a 550 square foot apartment over the weekend invokes a social media are: new york city residents outside after approach up to see the u.s. comfort pull into port. the white house was asked about some potential measures to prevent further spread. >> the road map suggests that everybody wear a mask in public. is that something that the task force thinks is a good id idea? >> i could see something like that happening for a period of time, but i would hope it would be a very limited period of time. >> the road map also talks about doing gps for social distancing, maybe following people's phones. >> i've been hearing about it. gps, what happens, a siren goes off when you get too close to somebody? that's pretty severe. >> shannon: tonight we're joined by steve weinberg, former medical director of the peace corps and dr. nicole saphier, fox news conservator and offer of "make america healthy again," good to have you both with us tonight. >> good to be here, shannon. >> shannon: i want to come with a couple of things, we heard about some potential things that happened on the road, returning to whatever the new normal is going to be but a couple of big points of news, including about the fda and fast tracking a couple of things. at "the washington post" said fda authorized widespread use of unproven drugs to treat coronavirus, saying possible benefit outweighs the risk. worth the risk of trying unproven treatments to slow the progression of the disease and seriously all coronavirus patients. dr. weinberg, we talked about this with you many times, this combo, the studies a very small this point but the fda seems to be willing to let people, you know, have these -- authorized to use in this particular case for now. >> yeah, these are safe drugs, we've been using them for a long time, so individually they are safe. whether they are going to be the panacea for this disease, we don't know yet, but big studies right now, the little studies don't tell us anything, but there are big studies going on in new york, there's a study in australia, there's a study in seattle and it won't take long. we've got plenty of patients and i really think probably by next week we will have some good studies, good results, and find out if hydroxy chloroquine or cpac are really going to help. >> shannon: as soon as next week, that's encouraging. also encouraging, some news out of johnson & johnson on the progress they're making in this fight that so many companies are now engaged in to find a vaccine, which would be further down the road. here's what the chairman and ceo of johnson & johnson said today. >> we got a candidate that has a high degree of probability of being successful against the covid-19 virus. we anticipate starting in humans in september. in an emergency situation we could have vaccines ready in q1 and q2 of 2021. >> shannon: doctor, what does that news say to you? >> to be honest, it's encouraging -- i know that we have more than one single entity in the private world that's coming up with a vaccine because as you know, there's also another company that's already started human trials as well and at this point i'm just looking forward to anyone who's going to produce a safe anesthetist vaccine. we are going to need one. i anticipate this will be seasonal for at least the next few years and so i think it's great, it's very encouraging and to touch on what you said earlier, the concept of fast tracking medication or even parallel tracking is not novel and it is not new to just covid-19. even in the time of hiv epidemic, doctors who are fast tracking medications at that time because they were trying to see eventually what was working on patients, so i don't member the same media attention at that time, maybe it's just the area of social media and people wanted to criticize, but the truth is right now we're trying to do everything we can to treat people right now as well as come up with a vaccine so that this doesn't affect us again when it comes back again in this next cycle. >> shannon: all right, while we have you both, would like to get some fewer questions to you. they send them in abundantly. a couple of video questions tonight. the first one comes from paul. >> one of the more jarring aspects of this story surround the cases of seemingly healthy people, especially children dying of the coronavirus. my question is, how often does the flu killed seemingly healthy people, especially children? >> shannon: dr. weinberg, is this something that's unusual or can healthy people die from things like the flu as well, when they don't have any of the high risk factors, does that happen as well? >> well, if you looked at the results, what happened during the spanish flu of 1918 and a '19, absolutely. the huge number of people 18-40 died. a lot of the doctors and nurses on the front line died. it's a little bit unusual and in the young people that are dying from coronavirus, probably have the same thing. the body attacks this virus and it attacks it so vigorously in young people who have a great immune system that they have what we call -- the body literally attacks the virus in the lungs, the body is killing lung cells, the body is killing kidney cells and liver cells eventually heart cells and all of your systems collapse. so young people will die, it's just a little bit different mechanism. >> shannon: all right, quick final word from you, dr. saphi dr. saphier. >> when it comes to the flu, just a regular seasonal flu, the most at risk, as we know are elderly and children and actually the children tend to be healthy children as opposed to what we are seeing with covid-19 where children are having some form of immunity to it, and when people under 65 get severe symptoms with this illness, they usually have some chronic disease, some comorbidity which is putting them at an increased risk of it,nal flu, those with covid-19 tend to have an underlying condition whereas flu, albeit the fatality rate seems significantly lower, you do see seemingly otherwise healthy children and elderly who died from the flu. >> shannon: all right, thank you both for your time, we appreciate it. >> thank you, shannon. >> shannon: of domestic violence victims advocates worry that a double homicide in honolulu could be a harbinger of what's to come with victims having to shelter in place potentially with their abusers. this hawaii case involves a mother and her baby and a 21-year-old man who police say took off after a domestic violence incident. they are investigating tonight. chief breaking breaking news correspondent trace gallagher has more on the fears about crime during the virus crisis. hey, trace. >> authorities have repeatedly said that only low-level offenders would be released from jails and prisons over concerns of coronavirus. it turns out that's not the case. in munro county near rochester, new york, 50 prisoners have now been released from the county jail, including eight registered sex offenders, three of whom were convicted of raping minors. a local police chief says he was never notified about the release and is concerned because the sex offenders are now staying at a local holiday inn express. while more inmates are back on the streets, it appears the streets are lacking police officers. for example, yesterday, almost 14.5% of new york city police officers, around 5200, were out sick. at least 824 have contracted covid-19, and the new york police commissioner says the number will certainly increase. tonight, martha maccallum asked if he could still keep the peace. watch. >> i know from the outside you may have those questions, but i am 100% confident that the men and women of this police department will rise up to any and all challenges and do whatever it takes to keep the people of the city safe. i have absolutely no doubt about it. >> but when you add criminals and take away officers, police unions believe it will leave to an uptick in crime, except so far it's not happening. according to the marshall project, a nonprofit journalism group that covers law enforcement, publicly available numbers show that crime -- excuse me, crime in big cities like chicago, detroit, los angeles and center and cisco have shown big drops over the past few weeks compared to the same weeks in recent years. experts say it's likely because stay-at-home mandates mean fewer potential victims are out and about. but then there's the downside of being cooped up in your home. social workers and victims advocates in east texas say this week alone they have seen a 20% increase in calls to a domestic violence hotline. as you mention, shannon, in hawaii last week, police responded to that call about suspicious circumstances only to find a woman and a 6-month-old. police are still trying to investigate that. the police reportedly believe it was a homicide related to domestic violence and those who work with victims of domestic violence they continued isolation, loss of jobs and stress will often lead to prolonged the mystic. shannon. >> shannon: all right, trace gallagher, thank you very much. new video just in showing how the chinese epicenter of covid-19 is slowly returning to its new normal. questions are about what china is telling us versus the evidence people are reporting their on the ground. next. ♪ know they were talking to her. 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>> that depends on whether you trust the chinese government. a lot of people in the country who do trust the chinese government, they are businessmen on wall street. i think the vast majority of the public, including me, does not trust chinese government numbers, and we are dependent on them. not only do we depend on them for pharmaceutical or any other high-tech exports, we depend on them for information with a few exceptions. there are some reporters who are still active and going around china. there are also some very bold, courageous people here in washington who work for a place called radio free asia, shannon, and they are calling all around china to get raw information. they tend not to believe the chinese numbers. >> shannon: well, we know that national review has a headline, china is pushing zero myth on covid-19, they say listen, the government there, the party, president xi, they have a vested interest in exactly how this plays a publicly. they say xi must show the world that the totalitarian chinese system is vindicated by the death of the virus, but the plan could run aground if the second outbreak, which some experts warn is inevitable, occurs in china. he's got a tightly control this thing and a lot of people say the numbers on the ground when it comes to the bodies in the ashes that these grieving families are picking up do not match with the numbers that we've been getting. >> that's exec the right, that's the work of radio free asia reporters were calling around wuhan and as you know there's a huge festival in china coming up april 4th. the idea is to get everybody's cremated ashes, their parents and loved ones at least in advance for this testimony. so the crematorium's are working overtime in china and the reporters have learned this, so the numbers don't match. the official number is 0. wuhan is basically restarting its economy but the numbers from the crematorium's, enormous, as much as 40,000 according to one phone call. >> shannon: yet. and as you've pointed out, there are some key dates and items and things happening april 1st with respect to the trade deal between the u.s. and china. >> that's right, there's a number of deadlines that began april 1st what china has to take various steps. president trump is already pointed out that china has begun to buy major -- purchases mainly in soybeans. that part seems to be untracked but the other more technical things will have to wait two or three more days to see if they can go ahead. i hope they do, because china's reputation is they are really badly harmed by the way they have concealed things about the wuhan virus. so they now began to openly cheat on the trade deal with president trump. i think they're going to lose their support from president trump. he's been saying very positive things about china, including today, they have since the ship myth of masks and gowns to us, so this is all positive. it's the way things were supposed to go, but -- i give you one example, shannon, they claimed that they passed a law shutting down all these wildlife markets, making it illegal, just a few weeks ago, but reporters from the daily mail are saying no, there are live cats, live dogs, rabbits, you name it, all being sold, the cages all piled on each other, and before you take one home, shannon, you slaughter it right there so the blood and body fluids or mixing among all these different animals. so this is what caused the virus, everybody kind of agrees on that and bats even, bats are sold in these markets even now, today. >> shannon: when you take out all the western reporters, or at least as many of them as you think you can, it makes it very tough for us to get accurate information out of there as it's happening the last couple of weeks. dr. pillsbury, thank you so much, always good to see you. >> thanks, shannon. >> shannon: what does it say that so my democrats are floating this idea of a cuomo presidential run this late in the race when they are ready have a presumptive nominee? fox news senior political analyst brit hume weighs in next. ♪ . . it's miracle-gro's biggest thing. ♪ ♪ organic plant food and soil that finally work... and work... and work... and yes we did say organic... for twice the bounty. guaranteed. miracle-gro performance organics. organics finally grow up. and up. and up. you ever wish you weren't a motaur? sure. sometimes i wish i had legs like you. yeah, like a regular person. no. still half bike/half man, just the opposite. oh, so the legs on the bottom and motorcycle on the top? yeah. yeah, i could see that. for those who were born to ride, there's progressive. >> as the president -- people are dying. >> do think there was blood on the president's considering the slow response, or is that too harsh of a criticism? >> i think that's a little too harsh. he should stop thinking out loud and start thinking deeply. >> shannon: another day, another round of criticism for president trump in the media -- is the media doing an objective job backing relevant questions? partisan leaders giving it administration a fair shake? let's discuss with fox news senior political analyst brit hume. good to see you tonight. >> thank you, shannon. >> shannon: okay, so a piece in the american thinker under the headline of the unbearable pettiness of the washington press corps is this. "every press demo question is meant to impugn the president's handling of this global event. it's one of them wants to catch him in a mistake so the clip of their questions will go viral." what do you make the coverage? >> well i do think that some of the white house press corps in particular conspicuously not to include our own john roberts why think is played this very straight and very ably, but too many of them are still trying to, you know, play the old game that you do of, you know, asking these questions intended to show that something that trumps it previously was inconsistent with something -- that's fine for normal times. these are not normal times. those briefings that are being held at the white house are really a fountain of information, some of it provided by truck himself, although he spent a lot of time bragging and saying what a great job they're doing and getting into tussles with reporters who ask him annoying questions, but even from him there's real information. bike pants does a good job of summarizing what's being done in the government and to help the states and then doctors fauci and birx have been excellent in interpreting the data coming in day by day and giving us a sense of how this pandemic is spreading, you know, what's the good news, what's the bad news and i think people are hungry for that. i'm a political journalist, right? you think i would be the one who's most absorbed with the politics of all of this but what i'm interested in just as a citizen watching his briefings day after day is more to the tell us about the virus, what they tell us about the pandemic, what are they tell us about our new york is doing and what its death rates and its hospitalization rates -- what is all that stuff telling us? i think a lot of reporters aren't asking questions about that stuff and they're missing something. >> shannon: and listen, the president likes to spar with them. he is game and ready to do it, but he's also taking on this idea that governor cuomo in some corners is gaining rapidly as someone who could somehow magically be the democrats nominee. if the president not afraid to troll a little bit with that. here's what he said. >> now, if he is going to run, that's fine, i wouldn't mind running against enter. i've known enter for a long time. i wouldn't mind that but i'll be honest, i think he'd be a better candidate than sleepy joe. >> shannon: "the new york times" on the headline with the cuomo 2020 fantasies has about 2020 reality is this. flirtation, such as that is, seems most instructive for what it says about those drawn to it. reviving a persistent trope among trump era democrats, the romanticizing of prospective party saviors, even at this point in the nominating calendar and there were new polls out that democrats still have serious questions about biden, 15% of bernie sanders supporters say if biden turns out to be the guy, they will go over and vote for trump. it sounds like democrats are still looking for that one person they think can be the best match against president trump. >> and another reason for that, shannon, is that since his quite sharp debate performance in his last round with bernie sanders, biden has been struggling, you know, he's been off the campaign trail because everybody is, and he's been doing these pieces out of a home studio in his house and he said some seriously awkward moments doing that and he doesn't have a job. he doesn't have a role. he can't get up and do what cuomo, for example, is doing, which is too brief about the efforts that are being made and to deal with the issue and cuomo, who can be quite elegant at times, philosophizing about this whole matter and so on and he's been kind of at the top of his game. and it's not hard to understand why democrats worried about biden, worried about his age, worry about his evident senility at times. wouldn't look at young andrew cuomo and say i wish you were our horse. the mechanics of it though, as "the new york times" editorial suggests, are pretty hard to imagine. were going to have a convention, they're going to be delegates whether it's a virtual convention or an actual convention. it remains to be seen, but the candidates who have amassed the delegates in the primary process are going to be the ones with people voting for them in that convention. and if you don't have any delegates, you don't have a lot of leverage. what would have to happen would be for biden to withdraw for some reason and biden's delegates and perhaps some of sanders' as well, would have to swing their comport to the last minute candidacy of andrew cuomo. it's not impossible, but it's highly unlikely. >> shannon: a lot of interesting numbers in "the washington post" "abc news" poll. and they come on the day that bernie reassures his followers he is not dropping out. could make things very interesting, thank you always for your time, good to see you. >> okay, thank you, shannon. >> shannon: in case you're wondering just how real the hopes are for a cuomo run, the chairman of the new york state democratic party tells "the new york times" "i keep hearing cuomo for president, whether it's political people to talk to me or neighbors on the street or friends i haven't heard from in a long time, my brother down in marietta, georgia, texting me. my sister-in-law." garrett tenney is following that part of the story for us, hey, garrett. >> i'm not running for president, i was never running for president. >> new york, new york, governor andrew cuomo is becoming a household name in one of the leading faces of the u.s. response to the coronavirus pandemic. his daily briefings are offered and carried live across the networks with millions of americans tuning in it while there stuck at home. his handling of the outbreak has drawn bipartisan praise in the new siena college in tomei college poll shows 87% of new yorkers approve of it as well while only 41% said the same of president trump. but even the commander in chief is offering a bit of praise for the governor. >> i wouldn't mind running against enter. i've known enter for a long time. i wouldn't mind that but i'll be honest i think it would be a better candidate than sleepy joe. >> my only goal is to engage the president in partnership. this is no time for politics. and, you know, lead by example. >> one democrat struggling to break into the new cycle amidst the coronavirus as the parties present of nominee who is campaigning is now largely limited to a home studio in the basement of his house in delaware. >> thanks for giving me the time. people will wonder where i am. >> will governor cuomo and president trump's approval ratings are up, enthusiasm for joe biden among democratic voters is down. biden does hold a slim lead in the new "abc news" "washington post" bowl, but just 24% of his supporters said they are very enthusiastic about supporting him compared to the 53% of trump supporter's who said they are very enthusiastic. but as the outbreak continues, both candidates are using -- wondering if the other isn't up to the task of handling the government's response. >> we want to make sure we have a great president, we have summative it's capable. i personally don't think joe biden is capable. >> it doesn't warrant as a response. it's a bravado, a bunch of malarkey, as they say in my family. step up and do your job, stop campaigning. >> today the biden campaign launched its latest effort to connect with voters with the new podcast and the focus of the first episode is covid-19. shannon. >> shannon: garrett tenney, thank you so much. how the covid-19 outbreak is redefining the word essential. gun shops, abortion clinics and marijuana businesses. our power panel debates next. ch, 15 or more headache or migraine days a month. one tough mother. you're bad enough for botox®. botox® has been preventing headaches and migraines before they even start for almost 10 years, and is the #1 prescribed branded chronic 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medical equipment, we are not going to have abortions right now unless they are to save someone's life, we don't consider them to be essential. and it went straight to court and they won actually, a federal judge has sided with planned parenthood and the other abortion clinics that were sui suing. the president, acting president and ceo of planned parenthood saying exploding pandemic is illegal. antiabortion activists have tried to exploit fear of the pandemic to push a dangerous clinical agenda, enough is enough and tonight the agreed with them. >> look, i think that a lot of americans probably look at this controversy and wonder, should we be debating about abortion at a time like this? moment where we are unifying to try to save every life we have some people pushing very hard to end lives. and to me, that's unfortunate. i think it's tragic. i think they are probably and certainly constitutional issues at play here, but we have heard from governors across the country that nonessential procedures, elective procedures be postponed. i understand there is a ticking clock with a pregnancy, but that's because there's a human life growing inside of a womb. i mean, it's a very difficult thing to talk about and think about within this context, but most abortions are elective. thorny questions here. >> shannon: yet. i want to make sure that we get to all of different businesses. i want to get to churches as well because mayor de blasio in new york set out only listen we're going to give the houses of worship and warning. if they have any kind of meeting and they don't listen to our warning will go the next step. he said that he would threaten them with fines and may be permanent closure of the houses of worship. the "washington examiner" writing on this says the threat of permanent closure is so clearly unconstitutional that it's a wonder bill de blasio even suggested it. he certainly cannot use the suspension of constitutional rights later as punishment for noncompliance now. jenna, that would be very long-term penalty. >> yes it would and you know, all of these questions are really pointing to in fact to why we have the u.s. constitution to provide the principles of constitutional law. so we have to recognize first but president trump is doing and absolutely wonderful, extraordinary, exemplary job in the federal government's obligation here, which is to provide the resources and support to states so that they can make the decisions for their specific communities. and he's absolutely doing that so when we look at each of these types of orders, these are each the state level governors that are taking specific action in their state and so let's were member that the constitution here provides -- american attorneys have been arguing over these types of fundamental liberty issues since 1803, our founding fathers of the constitutional convention argued about first the government being enabled to control the governed, but then secondly obliged to control itself. addison actually said that in federal 51, so we have some fundamental individual rights that are not absolute that then our butted against the government being able to control the health, safety, and welfare of its communities via the tenth amendment, so we see that states do have some limited authority. so the constitutional analysis here is does the government have a compelling state interest and are they furthering and advancing that interest narrowly tailored by the least restrictive means so for churches specifically in any other fundamental rights, the government does have a compelling state interest here to protect the health, safety and welfare but they have to do that nearly tailored by the least restrictive means. unconstitutional indefinitely. like restricting online services, that wouldn't be the least restrictive means. but if want to reassure americans -- i just want to reassure americans, this may be an unprecedented situation but we are not without principles here in constitutional analysis. but when it's true. kevin, i want to bring you and because there are some states that have ruled that marijuana dispensaries are essential, a lot of people may feel that way right now but there's also this issue about gun shops and whether or not -- because there have been a flood of people going into good guns, ammo, whatever. washington symes is the second madmen, which guaranteed private gun ownership as a constitutional right in the u.s. also extends protections to commercial gun sellers. that's a per announcement by the department of homeland security this weekend, your take? >> i think the supreme court is going to be very busy i think that all these different friends when it convenes again, these different kind of questions unconstitutionality with regards to abortion, gun control. in the heller decision, one of the most important i think decisions handed down by the supreme court when it comes to gun violence, gun control policies, they said there is not actually -- skill leo wrote in a decision that there is not a universal right to bear arms, that there can be limits placed on government. now they have to be reasonable and its any gas whether these restrictions, as we are seeing in california with governor newsom are reasonable. enter the abortion question, i think as he said, there is a timeline for women in terms of accessing abortion, not so much that argument can be made with i think purchasing guns. >> shannon: well, the texas ag has said they're going to appeal the decision that was against their policy tonight, so as we all predict, there will be much litigation over all these things. in the meantime, kevin, jenna, guy, great to have ali with us, thank you. >> thanks, shannon. >> thanks, shannon. >> shannon: we are not saying good night until we give you some very good news next. it's the next one. you always drive this slow? how did you make someone i love? that must be why you're always so late. i do 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