bill: the latest on the search for possible survivors. >> reporter: the south korean government has been imploring their search teams to try to find any people who may have survived the wreck of this vessel. they have been battling the elements. we understand some divers did get into the ship but three of them were swept away and rescued by fishermen. the search has been postponed because of this weather. they are intend to go bring a crane in to try to right the ship. bill: why did so many people get trapped inside, david? is there an explanation for that? >> that is the crucial question. it seems to be the first 30-40 minutes when the ship began to capsize. many surveys suggest the crew told them to stay on the ship while hose who seemed to get out ignored the orders. they say the captain didn't give an evacuation order but he did get out quite quickly when the ship began to capsize. he's facing a criminal investigation. bill: we have seen the picture of the captain. there are reports that he took a different route, different from the normal expected route. can you confirm that? >> it's nea near jeju near the d of his route. there are reports he was the substitute captain. bill: so many of those high school student came from the very same high school. david piper from bangkok. patti ann: the korean community coming together to pray for the ferry victims and those still mission. religious leaders from all over southern california lighting candles. the confirmed deaths include five high school student, a female crew member in her 20s and a happens teacher. bill: at least three russian separatists are dead. president obama issues this warning to vladimir putin. >> reach time russia take these kind of steps designed to destabilize ukraine and violate their sovereignty, there will be consequences. what you have already seen is the russian economy weaker. capital fleeing out of russia. mr. putin's decisions are not just badder to ukraine. over the long term they will be bad for russia. bill: jonah goldberg, good morning to you. when you hear the comments about consequences time and again what mess and does it send? >> i think it's provocative when barack obama talks about consequences. all the consequences he offered for previous steps have been so feckless and mediocre. there was a piece in the "wall street journal" on how we ship socks to the ukrainians. he says there will be more consequences. what does not mean? next time we'll send woolen hats or beach balls? to me it says we'll continue down the course we have been on which is one putin does not find intimidating at all. bill: do you think there was a plan b in place? >> i think broadly speaking when obama came into office he had this notion that simply by virtue of being barack obama and not being george w. bush that he would have a transfor tough effect on politician and that would be awesome. when that theory runs into one disaster after another in foreign policy, all has to fall back on is the abiding faith in negotiations. we have seen israeli talks, iranians farther, syria falter and we'll see what i fear in russia and ukraine. bill: we'll see if those talks or negotiations are successful. there was a report by white house officials conceding that the damage to the relationship with russia has been done, and likely will not reconsider for the rest of this term? what does knot that mean? >> what was interesting is the people at the white house were admitting it on background. there is no way we can get relations back to normal with russia before obama leaves office. whatever happens, it will be a mess that the next president inherits. and barack obama inherited somewhat of a mess on foreign policy with russia from bush. bill: it could spiral into something much bigger than it already has. jonah goldberg traveling at hillsdale college. >> reporter: a new phase in the search for malaysia airlines flight 370. today could be the last day planes and ships comb the ocean look for debris from the airliner. a robotic submarine is wrapping up its first full mission. bill: downpours in parts of new england causing problems like this. rivers breaching their banks in the state of maine, parts of vermont seeing record rainfall. that flooding leaving people in the town of kirby with nowhere to go. >> it many unusual when you can't get out and you are trapped. we are not used to being trapped. reporter: floodwaters have started to recede but folks in that town could be in for a long run. patti ann: newly uncovered eachs show lois lerner talking with the justice department about going after groups who seek tax exempt status. this was days before the scandal was exposed. what do we learn from the emails? >> reporter: there is evidence out there of clear coordination between the irs and the doj. they were trying to nail conservative groups that wanted tax exempt status but were too >> enthuse asupporting conserva. she wants to know at doj they can talk to that doj can piece together false applicant statement who lied on their 1024s. lerner then said in a different email obtained by judicial watch. president obama did tell bill o'reilly this year there is not a smidgen of corruption involved in the unfair targeting' conservatives looking for tax exempt status. the president blamed bone-headed decisions. before this scandal sank in last april the president's approval rating was 52%, 7 points higher than it is today. patti ann: what is the next step in this investigation? >> reporter: the justice department was asked a week ago by the house ways and means committee to pursue charges against lois lerner. speaker boehner says if learner doesn't start cooperating right away, sometime after the easter recess the whole house will vote to hold lerner in contempt. bill: brand-new polling in a race for the white house. it looks like the potential 3-way race for the republican ticket. we'll give you the numbers and karl rove will give you his take. a city official involved in corruption. bill: will taxpayer dollars help workers in bankrupt detroit. >> our people overwhelmingly $supported this president and there ought to be a quit pro question and he ought to exercise leadership on that. vo: once upon a time there was a boy who traveled to a faraway place where castles were houses and valiant knights stood watch for the kingdom was vast and monsters lurked in the deep and the good queen showed the boy it could all be real avo: all of great britain, all in one place book on expedia before april 30th and save up to thirty percent. how did edward jones get so big? 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[ male announcer ] that's how we run, and nothing runs like a deere. ♪ patti ann: sentencing in a corruption case. ri -- zo pled no contest in a corruption scheme that nearly bankrupted the small city of bell. they learned he was paying himself $1.5 million a year while many residents lived below the poverty line. he apologized during sentencing. bill: polling shows who republicans would like to see on the ticket in 2016. chris is i, followed by jeb bush, rand paul, followed by marco rubio. what does that snapshot tell you what republican voters might be looking for this time? >> it shows a wide open contest. i admire you a lot. to consider this an event you are suffering from me mature president surveyitisy. who was the even on the list? the guy who ended up beating her. bill: my doctor diagnosed me with ppsi about a week ago. >> this is understandable but you need to get professional help now. bill: i'm do that later. chris is i. honest and reliable. 41 per se yes and 41% say no. >> it tells me there is damage that has been done by the bridge gait matter. 42% say hillary is untrustworthy. 42% of the total sample don't know enough about hillary clinton to have an opinion. so her hard name i.d. is much higher than his and they are essentially tide on this question of trustworthiness. >> reporter: on jeb bush we asked the question about how well people know him and how they view him. favorable, unfavorable for jeb bush. 32% unfavorable. about a third of the bottom say they cannot break him just yesterday. there is still a discovery phase with governor bush, is there not? >> there is a discovery phase with all of the candidate. 26% don't know him at all. 34% don't know rand paul. 3% don't know ted cruz. that's why 2014 is so important. this is when they begin to set their message. when they set their opinions among the party leaders. that they are about something other than their own personal ambition. this is when they begin to develop a bigger frame that alloys us to understand who they are in terms of being a president and not just running for president. what they are doing to set that frame to describe and sculpt it if you will is important because we don't know -- do we know these names? but we don't know as much as we need to know. bill: it's a fascinating story to watch them. you mentioned hillary clinton. this is what we found when you stack her up against bush, rand paul and chris christie. she is 51%. 51% is chris christie at the bottom. if you are plotting a campaign against hillary clinton, how do you run against her? >> well, first of all, remember this is a woman who is universally known. not so for any of her opponents. all but a handful of people think they know enough about her to have an opinion. a quarter or more don't have an opinion about the other candidates because they don't know them yet. she has a low ceiling. i would worry about describing if i were running against her more about who i am and about her. because there is room for these people to grow and grow significantly against her and she has a ceiling, she has a problem that a lot of people made up their opinion about her and she can't get above 50, 51%. if i were them i would say she has a shot but it's more about how i describe myself. bill: you have got longer room to run when you are a relative unknown. >> build who you are, describe who you are. put yourself in a better position so when and if the moment comes to contrast yourself with her, you have got a lot of information about who you are, what makes you tick, things about you that make you attractive and that gives you a better chance at the later moment to say with all due respect to the former secretary of state here is where she and i differ. bill: have a good easter. >> we'll have a special episode of the a-team with dr. alvarez. bill: ppsi. it's called rove. patti ann: opening statements are about to get underway in a huge terror trial. a muslim cleric accused of setting up terror camps in the united states. >> this is the most meaningful work i have ever been a part of. in fact it has been the cause of my life. the new spring seasonal menu is now at olive garden. dive into our salmon bruschetta atop a buttery crab risotto, or fall in yum with our chicken primavera, always served with unlimited salad and breadsticks. the all new spring seasonal menu at olive garden. does your mouth often feel dry? 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>> reporter: ironically much of the evidence according to the prosecutors will be the very words of abu hamza. he's known to be a firey speaker. he was recorded repeated lid. he gave many interviews. the prosecution is going to use many of those recordings against him. for example, he's quoted as saying everybody was happy when the planes hit the world trade center. that according to the judge is one of the statement that will be admissible. he said never feel sorry for wicked america. another statement the judge ruled will be admissible. when it comes to speaking of non-muslims he is quoted by saying it's okay to kill by splitting their throats or by shooting them. we also expect during the trial he is going to testify in his own behalf. he earlier indicated to the judge that quote i think i'm not guilty. his word, the prosecution feels very strongly otherwise. patti ann. patti ann: david lee miller, thank you. bill: republicans pushing a strategy to go after obamacare. but is that a wing approach? we'll debate that fair and balanced. patti ann: the federal government about to repay a big favor to the bankrupt city of detroit? >> after the elect of jimmy carter, coleman alec an der young went to washington, d.c. and came home with some bacon. that's what you do. from his first day of work to his last, ich isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. patti ann: republican leaders are rallying against obamacare. party leaders tells house members attacking obamacare is the best way to win election. they say the intensity on this is greaten the negative side than the positive side. let's ask doug schoen, former adviser to president clinton, and monica crowley. kevin mccarthy said the people who have been negatively impacted have more intense negative feeling than those on the positive side. >> that's only part of the story. the republicans have the better argument on healthcare with repeal. but the american people want alternatives. and the republicans have yet to put forward a cohesive plan on what they would do. they need a positive agenda on healthcare, the economy and a whole range of issues. patti ann: the democrats are saying it's not about obamacare. he says we are winning with swing voters on every single check issue. republicans are to do everything they can to change the conversation. i think it's going to backfire. >> that's wishful thinking on the part of the dome krats. they are seeing the writing on the wall. all of the polls and trend will show republicans will make great gains intoorg extraordinary event that we can't foresee. what they are saying is the most obvious campaign advice since the democrats ran against the iraq war. obamacare was never popular and this drove voters to the polls in 2010. we saw the republicans take over, the turnover of the house. now it's reality and it's negatively and directly affecting tens of millions of americans. so for the democrats to overcome this now it's late in the game for 2014. they can put whatever gloss they want on this. the republicans have a cohernlt noon replace obamacare. you can'tific it, you can only repeal it and replace it with something different. patti ann: big story out of the "new york times" how the census will be changing the question regarding healthcare. republicans say this is a deliberate attempt to sceu the responses. >> i think there is a large issue as to how many people have enrolled. the democrats are saying somewhere between 7.5 enrollees. but who are these people? did they have their insurance canceled in what's happen together millennials, are they signing up in the portions to make obamacare viable? these are huge issues you are raising and you ones that have to be addressed. patti ann: the critics of the census say you have to compare ams to apples. the questions have to stay the same so you can compare the answers. does this make it difficult to figure out the answers? >> it will be difficult because now, you can't make the comparisons because the questions will be different. one of the few organizations left in washington that was immune from politic but recall emanuel moved census into the white house. now they wil thelma nip late ths so it will look like the number of uninsured went down but we won't able to figure out if that's attributable to the affordable care act, or attributable to the change in the question. bill: there is a bailout in the works for detroit. remember when a city councilwoman demanded president obama step in and help her town. >> after the election of jimmy carter the honorable coleman alexander young went to washington, d.c. an came home with some bacon. that's what you do. that's what you do. these are our people in an overwhelming way supported this president and there ought to be a quid pro quo and you ought to exercise leadership on that. not just that, but why not? bill: that was a year and a half ago. stuart varney, good morning to you. sir ... who would benefit -- who is looking for a bailout? >> reporter: the unions representing retired city workers in detroit. it looks like councilwoman watson will get help from washington, d.c., otherwise known as a bailout. it's money allocated for blight removal being allocated to detroit. if he divert money already allocated in michigan *, that's a back door wailout. bill: you have $500 million in the fund. it was designed to clean up of the some neighborhood where the real estate crumbled. >> reporter: the president wants another $100 million out of that fund to go to trite. the president put the governor in a tight spot. because it's up to governor rick snyder whether it goes to detroit. if he says no he's being portrayed as a wicked republican being mean to detroit city workers. bill: there are political ramifications if you take money and divert it to other areas? what do you think it will happen? >> reporter: it will be called a bailout by me and others and a bailout is what it is. i think ultimately the democrats and congress will pay a price for that. i don't think america wants its tax money diverted to a bankrupt city that shows no hope of recovery anytime soon. patti ann: weekly jobless numbers out this morning. 304,000 people filing unemployment claims this week. the's up 2,000 from the week before. but hiring has picked up after a slowdown caused about it severe winter weather. bill: this video that surfaced of a terrorist meeting. dozens of them meeting. one of the top republicans on the homeland security committee tells us about what it could mean about al qaeda's strength. patti ann: two fire trucks responding to a call collide as they arrive on the scene and someone is pinned underneath. >> all inside the restaurant. i cannot believe that. @8ñúñ÷@@@0@ú patti ann: at least two people were injured in a plant explosion in tennessee. the site is home to a company that makes explosives to defense industry. the injured were airlifted to a hospital. there is no word on their condition or what caused the explosion. bill: quied explosion. -- bill: al qaeda is gang strength. this video shows terrorists in the country of yemen. dozens of them. that video is said to be authentic and recent. there are critical figures on that. this stunned a lot of us. did you know this tape was out there? >> i was not aware