bill: the latest on the search for possible survivors. >> reporter: the south korean government has been imploring their search teams to try to find any people who may have survived the wreck of this vessel. they have been battling the elements. we understand some divers did get into the ship but three of them were swept away and rescued by fishermen. the search has been postponed because of this weather. they are intend to go bring a crane in to try to right the ship. bill: why did so many people get trapped inside, david? is there an explanation for that? >> that is the crucial question. it seems to be the first 30-40 minutes when the ship began to capsize. many surveys suggest the crew told them to stay on the ship while hose who seemed to get out ignored the orders. they say the captain didn't give an evacuation order but he did get out quite quickly when the ship began to capsize. he's facing a criminal investigation. bill: we have seen the picture of the captain. there are reports that he took a different route, different from the normal expected route. can you confirm that? >> it's nea near jeju near the d of his route. there are reports he was the substitute captain. bill: so many of those high school student came from the very same high school. david piper from bangkok. patti ann: the korean community coming together to pray for the ferry victims and those still mission. religious leaders from all over southern california lighting candles. the confirmed deaths include five high school student, a female crew member in her 20s and a happens teacher. bill: at least three russian separatists are dead. president obama issues this warning to vladimir putin. >> reach time russia take these kind of steps designed to destabilize ukraine and violate their sovereignty, there will be consequences. what you have already seen is the russian economy weaker. capital fleeing out of russia. mr. putin's decisions are not just badder to ukraine. over the long term they will be bad for russia. bill: jonah goldberg, good morning to you. when you hear the comments about consequences time and again what mess and does it send? >> i think it's provocative when barack obama talks about consequences. all the consequences he offered for previous steps have been so feckless and mediocre. there was a piece in the "wall street journal" on how we ship socks to the ukrainians. he says there will be more consequences. what does not mean? next time we'll send woolen hats or beach balls? to me it says we'll continue down the course we have been on which is one putin does not find intimidating at all. bill: do you think there was a plan b in place? >> i think broadly speaking when obama came into office he had this notion that simply by virtue of being barack obama and not being george w. bush that he would have a transfor tough effect on politician and that would be awesome. when that theory runs into one disaster after another in foreign policy, all has to fall back on is the abiding faith in negotiations. we have seen israeli talks, iranians farther, syria falter and we'll see what i fear in russia and ukraine. bill: we'll see if those talks or negotiations are successful. there was a report by white house officials conceding that the damage to the relationship with russia has been done, and likely will not reconsider for the rest of this term? what does knot that mean? >> what was interesting is the people at the white house were admitting it on background. there is no way we can get relations back to normal with russia before obama leaves office. whatever happens, it will be a mess that the next president inherits. and barack obama inherited somewhat of a mess on foreign policy with russia from bush. bill: it could spiral into something much bigger than it already has. jonah goldberg traveling at hillsdale college. >> reporter: a new phase in the search for malaysia airlines flight 370. today could be the last day planes and ships comb the ocean look for debris from the airliner. a robotic submarine is wrapping up its first full mission. bill: downpours in parts of new england causing problems like this. rivers breaching their banks in the state of maine, parts of vermont seeing record rainfall. that flooding leaving people in the town of kirby with nowhere to go. >> it many unusual when you can't get out and you are trapped. we are not used to being trapped. reporter: floodwaters have started to recede but folks in that town could be in for a long run. patti ann: newly uncovered eachs show lois lerner talking with the justice department about going after groups who seek tax exempt status. this was days before the scandal was exposed. what do we learn from the emails? >> reporter: there is evidence out there of clear coordination between the irs and the doj. they were trying to nail conservative groups that wanted tax exempt status but were too >> enthuse asupporting conserva. she wants to know at doj they can talk to that doj can piece together false applicant statement who lied on their 1024s. lerner then said in a different email obtained by judicial watch. president obama did tell bill o'reilly this year there is not a smidgen of corruption involved in the unfair targeting' conservatives looking for tax exempt status. the president blamed bone-headed decisions. before this scandal sank in last april the president's approval rating was 52%, 7 points higher than it is today. patti ann: what is the next step in this investigation? >> reporter: the justice department was asked a week ago by the house ways and means committee to pursue charges against lois lerner. speaker boehner says if learner doesn't start cooperating right away, sometime after the easter recess the whole house will vote to hold lerner in contempt. bill: brand-new polling in a race for the white house. it looks like the potential 3-way race for the republican ticket. we'll give you the numbers and karl rove will give you his take. a city official involved in corruption. bill: will taxpayer dollars help workers in bankrupt detroit. >> our people overwhelmingly $supported this president and there ought to be a quit pro question and he ought to exercise leadership on that. vo: once upon a time there was a boy who traveled to a faraway place where castles were houses and valiant knights stood watch for the kingdom was vast and monsters lurked in the deep and the good queen showed the boy it could all be real avo: all of great britain, all in one place book on expedia before april 30th and save up to thirty percent. how did edward jones get so big? 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>> there is a discovery phase with all of the candidate. 26% don't know him at all. 34% don't know rand paul. 3% don't know ted cruz. that's why 2014 is so important. this is when they begin to set their message. when they set their opinions among the party leaders. that they are about something other than their own personal ambition. this is when they begin to develop a bigger frame that alloys us to understand who they are in terms of being a president and not just running for president. what they are doing to set that frame to describe and sculpt it if you will is important because we don't know -- do we know these names? but we don't know as much as we need to know. bill: it's a fascinating story to watch them. you mentioned hillary clinton. this is what we found when you stack her up against bush, rand paul and chris christie. she is 51%. 51% is chris christie at the bottom. if you are plotting a campaign against hillary clinton, how do you run against her? >> well, first of all, remember this is a woman who is universally known. not so for any of her opponents. all but a handful of people think they know enough about her to have an opinion. a quarter or more don't have an opinion about the other candidates because they don't know them yet. she has a low ceiling. i would worry about describing if i were running against her more about who i am and about her. because there is room for these people to grow and grow significantly against her and she has a ceiling, she has a problem that a lot of people made up their opinion about her and she can't get above 50, 51%. if i were them i would say she has a shot but it's more about how i describe myself. bill: you have got longer room to run when you are a relative unknown. >> build who you are, describe who you are. put yourself in a better position so when and if the moment comes to contrast yourself with her, you have got a lot of information about who you are, what makes you tick, things about you that make you attractive and that gives you a better chance at the later moment to say with all due respect to the former secretary of state here is where she and i differ. bill: have a good easter. >> we'll have a special episode of the a-team with dr. alvarez. bill: ppsi. it's called rove. patti ann: opening statements are about to get underway in a huge terror trial. a muslim cleric accused of setting up terror camps in the united states. >> this is the most meaningful work i have ever been a part of. in fact it has been the cause of my life. the new spring seasonal menu is now at olive garden. dive into our salmon bruschetta atop a buttery crab risotto, or fall in yum with our chicken primavera, always served with unlimited salad and breadsticks. the all new spring seasonal menu at olive garden. does your mouth often feel dry? a dry mouth can be a side effect of many medications but it can also lead to tooth decay and bad breath. that's why there's biotene. available as an oral rinse, toothpaste, spray or gel, biotene can provide soothing relief, and it helps keep your mouth healthy, too. remember, while your medication is doing you good, a dry mouth isn't. biotene -- for people who suffer from dry mouth. al-masri. bill: kathleen sebelius may be leaving the job as health secretary but she may not be done with politics. the deadline to file for the senate primary in cass is june 1. patti ann: opening statements are set to begin against a tear rift known as dr. hook. abu hamza al-masri is charged with setting up a terrorist training camp right here in the united states. what are the charges against him? >> reporter: in total abu hamza faces 11 charges including setting up a terrorist training cam in oregon in 1999. he sent emissaries to that location to establish that cam. it never got off the ground and running. the moment he can realists arrived at that location they were under the scrutiny of u.s. authorities and it was soon shut down. he was also charged with helping terrorists in yemen in 199 th -n 1998 kidnapping six tourists'. four of the hostages were dead by the time the authorities intervened and for that he's facing life in prison. patti ann: what kind of evidence do you expect us to hear? >> reporter: ironically much of the evidence according to the prosecutors will be the very words of abu hamza. he's known to be a firey speaker. he was recorded repeated lid. he gave many interviews. the prosecution is going to use many of those recordings against him. for example, he's quoted as saying everybody was happy when the planes hit the world trade center. that according to the judge is one of the statement that will be admissible. he said never feel sorry for wicked america. another statement the judge ruled will be admissible. when it comes to speaking of non-muslims he is quoted by saying it's okay to kill by splitting their throats or by shooting them. we also expect during the trial he is going to testify in his own behalf. he earlier indicated to the judge that quote i think i'm not guilty. his word, the prosecution feels very strongly otherwise. patti ann. patti ann: david lee miller, thank you. bill: republicans pushing a strategy to go after obamacare. but is that a wing approach? we'll debate that fair and balanced. patti ann: the federal government about to repay a big favor to the bankrupt city of detroit? >> after the elect of jimmy carter, coleman alec an der young went to washington, d.c. and came home with some bacon. that's what you do. from his first day of work to his last, ich isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. patti ann: republican leaders are rallying against obamacare. party leaders tells house members attacking obamacare is the best way to win election. they say the intensity on this is greaten the negative side than the positive side. let's ask doug schoen, former adviser to president clinton, and monica crowley. kevin mccarthy said the people who have been negatively impacted have more intense negative feeling than those on the positive side. >> that's only part of the story. the republicans have the better argument on healthcare with repeal. but the american people want alternatives. and the republicans have yet to put forward a cohesive plan on what they would do. they need a positive agenda on healthcare, the economy and a whole range of issues. patti ann: the democrats are saying it's not about obamacare. he says we are winning with swing voters on every single check issue. republicans are to do everything they can to change the conversation. i think it's going to backfire. >> that's wishful thinking on the part of the dome krats. they are seeing the writing on the wall. all of the polls and trend will show republicans will make great gains intoorg extraordinary event that we can't foresee. what they are saying is the most obvious campaign advice since the democrats ran against the iraq war. obamacare was never popular and this drove voters to the polls in 2010. we saw the republicans take over, the turnover of the house. now it's reality and it's negatively and directly affecting tens of millions of americans. so for the democrats to overcome this now it's late in the game for 2014. they can put whatever gloss they want on this. the republicans have a cohernlt noon replace obamacare. you can'tific it, you can only repeal it and replace it with something different. patti ann: big story out of the "new york times" how the census will be changing the question regarding healthcare. republicans say this is a deliberate attempt to sceu the responses. >> i think there is a large issue as to how many people have enrolled. the democrats are saying somewhere between 7.5 enrollees. but who are these people? did they have their insurance canceled in what's happen together millennials, are they signing up in the portions to make obamacare viable? these are huge issues you are raising and you ones that have to be addressed. patti ann: the critics of the census say you have to compare ams to apples. the questions have to stay the same so you can compare the answers. does this make it difficult to figure out the answers? >> it will be difficult because now, you can't make the comparisons because the questions will be different. one of the few organizations left in washington that was immune from politic but recall emanuel moved census into the white house. now they wil thelma nip late ths so it will look like the number of uninsured went down but we won't able to figure out if that's attributable to the affordable care act, or attributable to the change in the question. bill: there is a bailout in the works for detroit. remember when a city councilwoman demanded president obama step in and help her town. >> after the election of jimmy carter the honorable coleman alexander young went to washington, d.c. an came home with some bacon. that's what you do. that's what you do. these are our people in an overwhelming way supported this president and there ought to be a quid pro quo and you ought to exercise leadership on that. not just that, but why not? bill: that was a year and a half ago. stuart varney, good morning to you. sir ... who would benefit -- who is looking for a bailout? >> reporter: the unions representing retired city workers in detroit. it looks like councilwoman watson will get help from washington, d.c., otherwise known as a bailout. it's money allocated for blight removal being allocated to detroit. if he divert money already allocated in michigan *, that's a back door wailout. bill: you have $500 million in the fund. it was designed to clean up of the some neighborhood where the real estate crumbled. >> reporter: the president wants another $100 million out of that fund to go to trite. the president put the governor in a tight spot. because it's up to governor rick snyder whether it goes to detroit. if he says no he's being portrayed as a wicked republican being mean to detroit city workers. bill: there are political ramifications if you take money and divert it to other areas? what do you think it will happen? >> reporter: it will be called a bailout by me and others and a bailout is what it is. i think ultimately the democrats and congress will pay a price for that. i don't think america wants its tax money diverted to a bankrupt city that shows no hope of recovery anytime soon. patti ann: weekly jobless numbers out this morning. 304,000 people filing unemployment claims this week. the's up 2,000 from the week before. but hiring has picked up after a slowdown caused about it severe winter weather. bill: this video that surfaced of a terrorist meeting. dozens of them meeting. one of the top republicans on the homeland security committee tells us about what it could mean about al qaeda's strength. patti ann: two fire trucks responding to a call collide as they arrive on the scene and someone is pinned underneath. >> all inside the restaurant. i cannot believe that. @8ñúñ÷@@@0@ú patti ann: at least two people were injured in a plant explosion in tennessee. the site is home to a company that makes explosives to defense industry. the injured were airlifted to a hospital. there is no word on their condition or what caused the explosion. bill: quied explosion. -- bill: al qaeda is gang strength. this video shows terrorists in the country of yemen. dozens of them. that video is said to be authentic and recent. there are critical figures on that. this stunned a lot of us. did you know this tape was out there? >> i was not aware of the tape. i know there had been gatherings in yemen. i did not expect the tape to be made public at this time. it should be a wakeup call to all americans, particularly our government as to how serious a threat there is from al qaeda. bill: we have been firing drones into yemen for more than a year, right? >> we have been doing it longer than that. we killed al-awlaki in 2011. i want to know whether our intelligence people knew about it. if they did not know about it, why not. if we did know about it, why we didn't attack it. we'll never get an opportunity like this with so many terrorists and prominent terrorists in one location. >> it's remarkable. i made the comment it looks like usama bin laden in the mountains of afghanistan prior to 9/11. but you raise an excellent point. how good are we at tracking their leadership today? >> we should be doing better than this. we should have sources or monitoring with drones and surveillance. for them to get a large gathering such as this in one location and for us not to be able to respond to it raises real questions. it really does. some of the top people are there. some of the top people in al qaeda at that location. one of the top leaders is said to be on the video. >> he's the number two person on the video overall. bill: he said the enemy crusader still has cards to play. we must remember we are always fighting against the big enemy. we must eliminate the cross held by the cross bearer america. tips they contain coded messages. there could be one here, could there not? >> absolutely, bill. we have to be look at that. we have events coming up like the boston marathon or just an attack on the united states especially coming out of yemen. al qaeda in the arabian peninsula are the most lethal element of al qaeda we have. they were behind the bombing christmas day 2009. they were behind hasan in fort hood. and they are committed to attacking the united states. bill: what's difficult to ascertain is their capability and strength right now. you would agree with that, right? >> i would say al qaeda in the arabian peninsula is strong. it's one of the most consistent bomb makers in the world. al qaeda in the arabian peninsula operating out of yemen should be a wakeup call to everyone. we have to remember that these are vicious killers intent on killing us and as they go, especially the ones. >> rating in yemen. bill: the bomb maker, did they all escape from prison in yemen? >> not all of them did. one of them is originally from guantanamo. he was released from guantanamo to yemen and he was part of that jailbreak self months ago. bill: peter king, thank you for your time. happy easter and too patti ann. patti ann: a would-be robber brings a good samaritan to his knees. bill: you will never see a bike ride like this again. that's a mountain biker's point of view and we'll talk to the man behind that wheel. true business-grade internet comes with secure wifi for your business. it also comes with public wifi for your customers. not so with internet from the phone company. i would email the phone company to inquire as to why they have shortchanged these customers. but that would require wifi. switch to comcast business internet and get two wifi networks included. comcast business built for business. on brand name mattress sets. get three years interest-free financing plus, get free delivery, and sleep train's 100-day low price guarantee. sleep train's interest free for 3 event is on now. ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ bill: surveillance video shows a good samaritan stooping crime in progress. he went in to buy some water and he saw a crime in progress. he lengthed to shoot if he didn't get drugs. but the good samaritan tackled him and held him down. patti ann: it appears alzheimer's may have a gender preference. a new study shows a gene variance puts women more at risk. and university broke it down by gender and broke it down and they say women are 40% more likely to get alzheimer's and men 20%. >> this is a major break through. alzheimer's is becoming an epidemic. it's a huge financial weight on our country. quality of life is lost. it's a major problem. we are finally beginning to understand it. we are using modern gentlemen met is in the way we are using it in cancer and other diseases. we are identifying the genes that are abnormal that are causing the problem. these are genes we use to put cholesterol into cell membranes. cholesterol has a variance. it doesn't play well in the sand box. 20 pert of people have it. those 20% are much greater chances of getting alzheimer's. their brains get gungd up with proteins -- get gunked up with proteins that don't work well. it causes alzheimer's two times more likely to occur. it may have something to do with estrogen or the x chromosome. that's the next step in this research. when we find out why we'll be able to correct. we'll say you have that gene, here is what we can do to correct that g decreasing your chances of cognitive problems or alzheimer's. patti ann: it will have something to do with ma name lating estrogen in women? >> i think it's the estrogen receptor. stanford university is all over this. it's either going to be the estrogen receptor or it will have something directly to do with the x chromosome. but work on the genetic level figuring out the genes, the bad guy has been identified. now we can find out how to correct it, and then figure out why women and what to do in women specifically. 2/3 of alzheimer's patients are women. patti ann: we have never broken down the study of the genes until now. because we weren't able to? >> exactly. we would figure out the protein building up in alzheimer's. we wouldn't figure out how they got there. now on a genetic level we are figuring out why the bad proteins form. this is taking science to a more exciting level. i have this gene, you don't have this gene. we can figure out who has the gene and what to do about it. patti ann: dr. marc siegel, thank you. >> it's the future of science and this disease. bill: three russian supporters are dead. the crisis in ukraine heating up. we'll get a live report on the administration's response in a moment. patti ann: the glare of the spotlight turning back on former irs official lois lerner. how much did she know about the scandal before the news broke? 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>> it was rhetorical. he is saying something that is interesting but i don't see where it fits. this is the first time in 60 years where we have no tanks in europe. no, of course, the russians don't want direct confrontation with the united states. >> you say there is no way russ russia is going to backdown. explain that >> putin is riding the on the strong horse image and trying to rebuild russia. he has a lot of stake and he is not going to back down because he is playing the strong hand. he doesn't want to run full military operation in ukraine. >> if that is the case, there is going to be a confrontation. >> he is throttling the unrest inside the ukraine and if the ukraine breaks apart he doesn't have to invade. he is throttling this as it goes. is a dangerous game. but i think he is is trying to force the west to give crimea to him and then give the internal states in ukraine so they will align more with ukraine >> you wonder what the government in kiev does and it might not be pretty. this is what mccain would. >> we should provide them with military assistance. the obama administration isn't doing that and that only encoura encourages putin. >> would you support military troops? >> as long as it isn't troops on the ground. the worst thing we can do is overplay a weak hand. we have removed ourselves mostly from europe and even thinking about starting a conventional war over this is crazy. military assistance in the way of intelligence support, weapons, things like that, sure. the kiev government could benefit. but they don't want russia invading because they know they will kick their butt. this is putin getting people convinced they will not do anything militarily and let's figure out how i get what i want and you can walk away without your tail in between your legs >> the president talked about we are seeing the russian economy getting weaker and the stock market dropping 25% and the capitals fleeing from russia. there is a mix of opinions on whether putin cares about that but you have to think at some point he does. >> i think in the long-term he would but he is viewing this as short time and it is in russia's national interest. nato has been spending 1-2 percent on gdp and they had to have the united states come in to do libya. he is realizing there is no military threat and he is playing a great hand of poker and you watch, everyone is going to fold. >> chuck nash in washington, thank you. dramatic images revealing the intense effort of saving those in the ferry sinking off the coast. a 6-year-old girl was among those rescued. nine people confirmed dead as the rescuers battle bad weather to find the 300 still missing, many high school students. jason is in sole and he is joining us. what is the latest? >> the weather just isn't into the diver's favor. they tried to get into the wreckage but strong currants and cold water is making their job difficult. it is nighttime here and unlikely they will get much done overnight and time is running out for the few hundred people still unaccounted for if they are still with us. >> from what we understand some of the divers had to be rescued wh they got into trouble with the bad weather. are people give odds here of survival given the water temperature? you are talking about the hope of air pockets but what is the chance of survival? >> it has been a day and a half sense the boat went done. families are not giving up. there is hope there were texts that went out as the boat was sinking. parents do have hope but reality is this is a difficult situation. >> it is heart breaking. we are hearing the captain is under investigation because he was reportedly one of the first people off the ferry >> and perhaps the only person to have access to a life boat according to a life boat. he is being called a suspect. he was contrite on television but had if he abandoned his ship that is against the law and he will face penalties if convicted of that. >> a picture of a man hiding under his gray hoody was the captain and he is in quite a bit of trouble potentially. thank you, jason and best of luck down there. thanks. back at home now, fox weather alert. snow as deep as 19 inches the third week in april. look at the scene in minnesota. the vortex isn't tired and you have heavy flooding throughout northern new england and homeowners in maine are feeling the impact. >> the water is going to sit there and if it says this cold things will freeze. we can see light layers freezing from the wind and cold. >> we were warned about the snow and i think you were predicting 18 inches and they got 19. >> a lot of areas to the north of minneapolis got 19 inches. minneapolis didn't get hit much but to the north many picked up 18 inches of snow. you can see the storm system rolling through minnesota and wisconsin. 17.5 inches in north branch minnesota and many areas picking up a foot of snow in wisconsin. we do have the winter warnings because there is 2-4 more inches coming but that is on top of what you saw in wisconsin and the upper peninsula of michigan as well is expecting more. i want to mention we have low pressure across parts of the gulf coast developing and it is warmer so this is rain. but possible up to six inches of rain. we have flood watches in effect and this is something to be watching >> that is flash flooding at that rate. thank you, maria. in southern california, folks are returning home after they were forced out overnight due to discovering an artillery shell. the shell was discovered yesterday afternoon in the business district. the santa barbara shafferiff ofe went door to door warn them. >> and a house explosion knocking an entire building off its foundation and 12 people sent to the hospital in baltimore. a natural gas leak caused the explosion and a witness talking about the events: >> i heard a big explosion and the windows came down and fell in on my house. i am nervous and i want to know what is happening >> two of the victims were injured and several children suffered cuts and smoke ventilation. some say it is the biggest broken promise of the administration. >> if you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan period. if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, period >> a brand new fox news poll row reveals how many americans think the president lies about major issues. >> and new out rage after a teenager tried to expose a bully and what landed him before a judge. >> and first responders crash into each other sending an ambulance into a restaurant. >> it is so crazy. everyone's car is inside the restaurant. i cannot believe that. two fire trucks headed to the same fire ran into one another and someone slamming into the a restaurant with a dozen people injured. cellphone video capturing the event moments after it happened. a man was pinned under the truck who was standing on the street when hit. >> the guy from outside, the car crossed the lane and crushed his leg. they want to get him out but they cannot. >> the man who was penned was taken to the hospital and still listed in critical condition. stunning new numbers show 60% of registered voters think president obama lies to the country about important issues at least some of the time. according to a new fox news poll, 37% think the president lies most of the time and 24% some of the time. 20% of voters say only now and then and 15% believe the president doesn't lie. the number of voters that said the president lies most of the time includes 41% of independ t independents. tucking carlson is here. good morning. >> good morning >> 61% of registered voters believe the president lies to the people some of the time. how damming is that? >> it is bad. but 41% of independents is worse. you might think the republican numbers would be higher given the polarization you hear about so that is lower than i would have expected. the 41% among independents is bad. he won the majority of the poplar vote because he got the independents but it half think you life most of the time that hurts. >> there is a dramatic difference in the most of the time. only 13% of democrats. and you say that doesn't surprise you. but really, you expected it to be that big of a divide? >> absolutely. the congress -- for example, in the senate, there is not a single democratic senator who is more conservative than the most liberal republican. so it is divided and no union between the parties. i am surprised that 40% of the republicans have given the president the greater benefit of the doubt. they will be reflected in the mid-terms and that is a refre refrendum on how the president is doing. you are seeing your future p reflect in those numbers and you will bear the responsibility for the pole numbers. >> and 51% of register voters disapprove of president obama's job approval. it was 53% and before that 54% so the approval is ticking up and negative is ticking down. what do you make of that? >> these numbers move, but within a narrow band. if you go back to 2010, and just his april number right now is the lowest it has been. and 2010 was a very bad year for democrats as they lost more seats in the house going back 80 years. the president's number was higher than also. the president isn't running again so this is an ominous sign for congressional democrats. >> how much of this do you think is obamacare being implemented and people realizing some of the promises were not being kept? >> it is an awful lot. it isn't the entirety of it. part is the fatigue any two-term president experiences and another part is the high expectations he started with the presidency with and the high unemployment rate of 1-6 men being out of work and part of it is obamacare. when you say something like you can keep your coverage if you like it and that turns out to be untrue and it emerges you knew it was untrue when you said it, i don't think any president could come out with a high number. >> tucker carlson, thank you. two lucky kids getting the ride of their lives when they got to take a spin in the pope mobile. >> and lois lerner is back in the spotlight. new new lel new newlyly mails so they might have known about this in washington. >> i think the questions are fair. whom is the tea party dangerous? who thinks they are dangerous? you? female announcer: get on board for better sleep. it's sleep train's interest free for 3 event. get three years interest-free financing on beautyrest black, stearns & foster, serta icomfort; even tempur-pedic. plus, get free delivery, and sleep train's 100-day low price guarantee. you'll never find an interest rate lower than sleep train's interest free for 3 event, on now. ♪ sleep train ♪ ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ a couple of lucky kids get the ride of their lives courtesy of the pope. pope francis hopped off the pope mobile to greet a group of students and asked if anyone wanted to take a spin and the pope picked up two lucky kids and they took ride they will remember for the rest of their lives. a battle grewing over license plate technology that might catch criminals but some are concerned about the abuse. casey stegeal is live with more. >> many of us are familiar with this technology in the law enforcement community. we are talking about them cameras we have seen on the police cars and parking enforcement vehicles going up and down the street snapping the licensefla lice plate numberance but it is starting to spread to businesses like texas digital bank and they work with vendors to track repos, those in default on their loan payments. the ceo says the information his company gathers is guarded and safe. >> the average citizen has no way to get to this information because it is treated as a protected record and you are denied access unless you have access >> insurance companies might be tracking your movements and charging you for premiums based on the miles you truly drive. >> these systems are controversial. >> they are. they are raising privacy concerns and groups like the aclu isn't opposed to the technology but calling on more regulation for its use because law enforcement groups and private companies kind of make up their own rules. if the information captured is stored in a database over an extended period of time -- >> they are increasing revealing people's information as they go around town and where people go reveals a great deal about them. their visits to the doctor, worsh worship, friends, work and daily routines and deviation from that. >> casey thanks. new technology. appreciate it. from dallas. patty ann? one program is fighting for military veterans with ptsd and the work they are doing to help the vets transition back to life >> and meet the daredevil here who caught his trip on camera. >> i can just watch that and get sick. pdst co: sometimes you don't know you need a hotel room until you're sure you do. bartender: thanks, captain obvious. co: which is why i put the hotels.com mobile app on my mobile phone. anyone need a coupon? i don't. >> here is more evidence suggesting the irs targeting scandal may have involved more members of the federal government in washington d.c. emails are showing that lois lerner was talking to others about agencies she targeted. i want to talk about this with the chairman of the republican national committee. thanks for coming back. >> good morning, bill. >> what does this tell you? what does this prove do you think? >> listen, i think what it tells me and what it proves to me is they have a lot to hide. and the fact the rnc has filled a lulu lawsuit against the united states and we have requested document and they are requested extensions. these are documents they should have. communication between the white house and lois lerner and the cincinnati office. they have a lot to hide. it is drip-drip that is getting worse. we need lois lerner to be prosecuted so we can have rel discovery and get to the bottom of this with the prosecuting attorneys power. >> that leaves a lot open. it was said it was only happening in st. louis but it was happening in washington, d.c. clearly. how deep did this run in washington, d.c. is the question? >> that is the question. we don't know to what extent or the depths the obama administration may or may not have been involved. lois lerner was setting up meetings with the doj to purposely target republican groups. cross roads was significantly targeted in writing and emails. this isn't theories or the republican party that is creating a whirlwind here. this is fact on paper. she spoke to the american bar association and she is admitting wrongdoing in front of the entire world and it is time the obama administration force transparency here at the irs and be who they said they would be: this transparent administration which we know is a joke. >> the president said there is no corruption to be found on this story and i know you disagree with this. but can you find a way where this can be explained away? they were thinking all of these groups were coming and we cannot be sure or convinced that was their ambition. that is what lois lerner might argue. answer that. >> now we see in emails and documents they have sented for the coordination is there and the targeting was there and the abuse of power was there. there is no way to undo what is in writing and has been produced. the problem is when they sit on documents they are not producing they are hiding something that is worse. it is going to come out eventually. and in law, delay is a lawyers best weapon. i can only imagine what it would be like if we decided not to pay taxes for over a year or didn't file on april 15th. what would the irs say to us? >> quickly, i have about 30 seconds left, for the midterms, how would you characterize the fundraising ability of your fellow candidates? >> it has been phenomenal. just not the candidates as well. but we outraised the democratic committee by $20 million. people are excited about the change. >> it is april 17th, are you predicting victory for the republicans in the senate? >> i think we will win the majority in the senate but we have to keep our head down and fight like crazy to make sure it happens. >> thank you. have a good easter. a small program in napa valley is seeing big results. the pathway home gets veterans with pdst back into the community. >> reporter: building relationships into the community with the overall being to socialize vets back into the society. what maybe a simple game for some has become simply essential for others. >> i was at rock bottom. i had an almost successful s suicide attempt. >> reporter: this program brings veterans back to lives -- >> it saves my life every day. >> reporter: by bringing life back to the veterans >> it is hard to turn down help when everyone is helping you. >> reporter: the privately funded program has been so successful helping people with some of the worse cases of ptsd that the veteran association is calling. >> what we don't understood is this is a long journey to come home. >> where are people? i know the exercise stirs people up. >> reporter: the 14-week treatment program combines ventional and conventional methods and volunteers performing the services that help them deal with sickness and reconnect with society that doesn't understand the scars of war. >> we give but we give more back. when you make a connection with a warrior and realize he is human and like your son and just like your uncle or you know, your father. >> reporter: the program so far has helped more than 400 vets. it is just for men but they hope to expand and add women to it by raising more money. but a recent study found 92% of the men, well above the national average, have a much better quality of life once they walk away. >> adam housely, thanks. >> we cannot give them enough help. the entire nation and most of the world held its breath 40 years ago as apollo 13 returned to earth. we honor and recognize those people who raced to find a way home. and a victory to a teenager who is facing charges after trying to catch bullies in the act. >> we cannot turn our back to this. i am sure i can find an easy quick fix. but you know he doesn't want to do that. he wants to help people >> i am glad they feel i have given them a voice. that is what i want to do. >> those five words: houston we have a problem is today's throw back thursday. many minutes after the launch of appaollo 13 a crew was shaken a they were forced to orbit the land without landing. they had to find a way home with oxygen and food suppliesreni suppliesrening -- supplies running out -- it paid because the crew of apollo 13 touched down safely in the ocean 44 years ago to the day today. they had a find a way and they did. >> the movie is great as well. awesome. they showed what they had to work with. a pennsylvania district attorneys office is set to withdraw a conviction against a team that recorded his bullies. a wire tap charge was rejected by the school but how did it get to this point? >> i try to do the best i can and it shocked me when this happened because i don't understand. >> it is really sad. it has been hard. >> pulled his pants down and did things i cannot repeat and laughing and cutting it up like a joke. >> leslie marshal is here and and lars larson as well. thank you for joining us. 15-year-old christian stanfield was being tormented and finally recorded an incident on his ipad and paid for the his mom who played it for the school and the principal called the police saying they want to charge christian with wire tapping. but instead he was charged with other charges and convicted of them but now the da is announcing the conviction is overturned and they didn't know about the charge. overturning it the right call, leslie? >> absolutely. bullying is a serious issue in the state. my daughter turned six this week and i had a little complaint and question to the teacher and the schools rushed in, gave me a booklet, wanted to talk to me and my daughter. schools need to take this seriously. this kid was trying to prove he wasn't lying. and saying someone please, pay attention. and the fact the teacher, school district and law enforcement looked at him like a criminal is sad. ask i think lars and i will agree for the fist time in history. >> christian was upset about the conviction but also upset the school didn't take action to stop the bullying. in fact the school demanded he erase the recording. are they trying cover up problems at the school? >> it is crime actually. when you detroy evidence of a crime and the crime is intimidation. if you raise your fist or cause someone to fear for their life that is a crime to intimidate people or assault them; saying pulling his pants down. when the school insisted he destroy that recording they were tampering with evidence. i think the person at the school should face charges for that. and school teachers in every state in america are required by law to report if they suspect a child has been abused or the subject of criminal action. this happened in front of a teacher. this child was made to fear for his safety and the teacher did something, the school destroyed the evidence. there should be charges brought and not against christian. if people say you are supporting breaking the law and there is a defense called choice of evil like if your wive is sick and you are driving 90 miles per hour to get her to the hospital that is a choice of evil. he broke the wire tap law but did it to provent a greater evil and that was the criminal behavior against him and the malfeseance of teachers destroyed evidence and refusing to report the crime. >> it is clear he broke the wire tapping law? they didn't charge him with that. in new york you are allowed to record something like that. is this wire tapping law even apply with i-pads and all? >> i am glad you brought that up. and yes, lars, agree with everything you said in shock and i will delete the bullying emails you sent to me. but i have to say state-by-state this is going to have to change. this is time where people are taking pictures and posting them online. is everybody getting pictures of me with bad hair days from high school and college? absolutely not. this is the world we live in. is this wire tapping? he is using his phone. he wasn't recording a phone conversation with these individuals. he was recording video of actions they were taken. if he is walking down the hall of the school and taking pictures, i can see that. but i don't see an attorney -- this i don't think would have stuck. we live in a society that i don't agree with the policy but the most important thing is the issue of bullying is dress. the mother is doing everything she can and if there is anyone in trouble it should be the school looking and saying how can we protect our children better >> i am sorry, lars, i will have to leave it there. >> we agree. >> a bit of a warning. don't try this at home. the man who recorded this as he experienc experienced it is our guest live. check it out. bulldog: [yawning] it's finally morning! i can't wait to get to mattress discounters because the tempur-pedic bonus event is ending soon. i'll have first pick from the huge selection of tempur-pedic mattresses. then, i'll get to choose $300 in pillows, sheets, and other free gifts. on top of that, up to 48 months interest-free financing. it's a beautiful day for mattress discounters' tempur-pedic bonus event. mmm, some alarm clock you turned out to be. ♪ mattress discounters could mean less waiting for things like security backups and file downloads you'd take that test, right? 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>> you probably reach up to 40 miles per hour. >> it is fascinating to watch. what i don't think people understand or know that the day before you had two serious wipeouts. what happened? >> the first time was off a big drop on the course. and i definitely felt the wind push me so i jumped over the bars and body cased about 40 feet to flat and tumbled down the landing. >> that was you going whoa. >> that was me. >> can you the wind knock you off your path? you are a big guy. how does that happen? >> when the wheels spin in the air they are acting like sails and with when the wind hits them it can push the bike out under you. >> do you think he would be impressed if you didn't have the camera? >> i am pretty happy i had it on there. and i would be bummed not to see people's experience out there with what they are doing. like the go-pros changed the game. >> and our perspective. you got first place for this. what did you get? >> no, this year wasn't that good. my body was sore and i took it easy and the second runs were canceled due to the wind. so yeah, this wasn't my best showing ever here. >> but you know what, jeff, you posted a moment that went viral. how many people have watched this now? 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