personalty jimmy failla. >> it is. >> fox bus y guru, gerri willis, and will cane. and over here, red team, you have seen him all over "fox nation." b micmike. >> i predict 100% sunshine. fox news, meteorologist janet. and you know her, love her, can't get enough, fox news very own julie. >> i was going to say, you were allowed to dress up, you don't have to wear your regular clothe. >> watch out for the red wave, jimmy.p >> you seehe where we're going with this, debate has begun. you remember high school debate, we willdo that christmas style. let's get to it. first debate, jimmy versus michael. the topic. we love christmas music. the timeless classics. but there is a limit. when is it acceptable to star gi-- jingling the bells, halloween or thanksgiving. michael argue for halloween. >> lovers of christmas, around the world. i say to you, not only halloween, but the day before, the day about after christmas. it is sad to hear the boos of those hurting. there is tho not enoughhu christmarts music, ladies and gentlemen, i'm an american. and i don't like crony eno capitalism, and what you have with limited window forw christmas c chris chair oles you get a select few, christmas music should b e played year round to discover more fantastic stars. >> michael. >> wow.ar >> take the floor. >> get it, jimmy. >> my fellow americans. i love christmas music, but i wait until after thanksgiving, you want to know about why, i'm not awa sociopath, that is why,. >> good point. >> there is such a thing as having too much supply, so much so, that it destroys our appetite and demand for christmas, oil not arguing it is not good, but it isch too a abundant, will our whole world be a cvs where we put out easter candy in july. we need it to be cvs the day after when it is half price in this economy. >> jimmy failla. >> wow. >> who do you think had the better argument? michael? [applause] or jimmy failla? [applause] ojyou just won. >> yeah, we did it, yeah,! >> that's one. >> lot of pressure now. >> i know. >> let's get sere serious winners get a check for their favorite charity,to elve gs the large check. losers take home a stocking stuffed with coals. >> thank you, elves,. >> before we move olet's find out what they're playing for, julie, what is red team. >> i am als do.org, they are raising money to come up with research to end the deadly epidemic. >> great. >> jerr gerri willis. >> american cancer society, ern can get behind it. [applause] >> i don't know -- they are both such worthy charities, let's see who wins, to debate two, it has been raging since 60s, real tree or fake tree, geri, where should i cut down a pine tree. come on up. >> i prepared for this, by reaching out to the national christmas tree -- association, i did my research, i thought that would be the thing to do, there are 25 to 30 millionthin trees sold every year, i have real trees because i like the way they smell, that is is always nice. we have reaality is if youe are i a real american, you are buying a real tree there aretr 15 thousand christmas tree farms this this country that are armed by farmers, real people, small business operators that need your support. >> there we go. >> wow. >> usa ! usa! where do you think the fake christmas trees come from. >> here we go. oh, boy. >> bitter. janice,u -- >> usa! >> i'm saying, go real baby, go really. >> that was mean. in china, she brought the fox business angle in there that was is fantastic. >> janice, tough road ahead. >> fake tree, janice. >> i love you, i love all of you on, my dad, howard dean, not that howard dean, owned oone of the first artificial christmas trees in the u.s., made in the u.s., we had it for 30 years, 30 years, you askk ask my mom, i take that into my family, we also have an artificial christmas tree that we've had for 12 years.t we bought o it on sale 80% less, it was about 50 dollars, we had it for 12 years are do the math. the economy, gerri willis, we're saving money. >> janice dean. >> is that it. >> that's it.ur >> a go back to your corner. >> thank you so much, i love you so much. janice should be penalized for going to audience. >> these are my people sphwhr. even with the penalty, her argument holds. >> 30-years with a tree, that is a big one. >> call stella, she will tell you. >> i love you. >> last debate in this round, it is will versus julie, you are ready? >> you bet. >> what is the creepiest christmas carol, is it santa baby? or i saw mommy kissing santa claus? will, tell me why santa baby is all sorts of wrong. >> thank you. >> okay, your honor. >> ladies and gentlemen of the jury, i would like to submit this transcript to the record. santa baby, i want a yacht and really that's not a lot. i have been angel all year, santa baby. i'll see you when you come down the chimney tonight. >> woe that sounds like t prostitution to me. >> jimmy, this is a song, julie, about a gold digger. i rest my case.>> >> woe. >> yeah. >> no, no. >> no, no. >> no. >> i'll tell you, will gets points for re11 re-- i saw mommy kisses santain claus, come on up, julie. >> oh, heck no. no, no, now. first, mommy kissing sa santa, mommy is a slut. in the song, santa actually walks intose i the house and let me refer to lyrics, i saw mommy kissing santa, if my kids saw me doing it with santa that would be therapy bills, this is spoiling our children's mind, make them not understand the real spirit of christmas, mommyng c should not be sleeping with any elf or santa. >> julie. well said.ould >> well said. >> well done. where are the minds on our panel, it is kissing, an innocent kiss. >> i agree. >> >> how many people think that julie in. >> [applause] >> come on. >> >> how many people think will cain because because. cain. [applause] will cain with the better argument. >> yeah he did. >> that's all right. >> we'll be back with more debates and a few curveballsck after this. stick around. i'd like to thank our sponsor liberty mutual. they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. contestants ready? go! only pay for what you need. jingle: liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. all across the country, people are working hard to build a better future. so we're hard at work helping them achieve financial freedom. we're proud to serve people everywhere, in investing for the retirement they envision. from the plains to the coasts, we help americans invest for their future. and help communities thrive. ♪ ♪ >> we're back with more of the great christmas debate. it is red team versus green team. i was going to say the gloves are going to comed te off, but i think they came off. to round two, degree of difficulty ratchets up, one shot to impress me. but, you have to do it unders me duress. our elves cooked up mischievous distractions, we're he go who was ultimate christmas spoiler, scrooge? or the grinch. jimmy, you argue for old ebenezer. and elves bring in the snow ball. yes. okay. >> we get do this? >> jimmy, go. >> i'm here to argue ebenezer scrooge is worse christmas villain of all-time, he shut down joy, he shut down a charity by telling them to get a job or drop dead. and he paid bob cra crashet so little, tiny tim was selling pictures to only fans, the grinch was born with a heart two sizes too small he is a medical victim who needed help in life, and gets it scrooge he was rich, he had a wife, and a bastard, a monster. >> jimmy failla. . [ laughter ] >> janice, arguing for the grinch. >> scrooge, did nothing illegal. nothing illegal. >> true. >> but the grinch stoleth things, he hasin a rap sheet, he stole presents, andhe s snacks and christmas trees. >> what about know animal abuse. >> he also -- abused max. his dog. >> yes. >> he made max do everything. he made max carry the sleigh. >> hey. >> he lead to send cindy lu hu, and said i'm taking your tree to repair it, that was a lie, a lie. >> we all work on christmas. i worked on christmas. i'm doing christmas show t now. doi so the grinch is the worst -- villain in christmas history. >> a thousand times yes. >> i almost want to give it to green team because of their use of snow balls, they were more aggressive.t but, janice, r red teams. i love you. >> i love you. >> we have gerri versus julie. >> should we save these. >> a hot button topic, argue, baby it's cold outside, cancel or christmas classic. gerri, you tell us why we should cancel baby it's cold outside. >> and -- okay.nc >> audience seemels to be against you. and we will add, elves, please. >> oh, no. >> making your argument while wrapping a present. >> that is terrible. >> what. >> okay, i can do this. >> is it the present. >> in here. >> take the back off of that, and you -- cut some tape, okay. we're not chu cheating just c allocates, the song was written in 1944, you look at this today, youn ar19e like this looks like ay th little date rape, my heart went out to this young woman as i read these lyrics, she says no 6 times, what doesys he do, he tries tob ply her with alcohol and tobacco. >> is gerri wrapping? >> cheating. >> if i could just finish, i would say this, if you -- don't want to do it for the girl, or for the lady, then do for mom and dad, she says in the song, that dad is pacing the living room, he is sido worryed and mom is up sick with worry. do it for them. cancel that song, come on. >> mom and dad, think of momm is and dad. >> julie, argument is christmas classic, get wrapping and talking. >> let me tell you about this song. >> we're not cheating. >> this is two minutes. 48 seconds of fore play. no, the the reason why, judy garland wanted it, i played hard to get in my 20s and 30s. >> i know that is true. >> absolutely.to m you pre pretended you don't like him, he comeske h crawling for more, in lyricsr] she asks for me, at one point, he says. you know don't go outside it is stormy, she said, he said you have delicious lips to which she replies maybe i should smoke a cigarette. not inside, you know where she was smoking where and when, at the end they sing in unison, oh, baby it ist coldsa outside, they heated it up inside. >> julie. >> look at this. >> let me ask you. it will have to come down.>> to the wrapping job. no matter when you think. julie did a darn good job with her present. it goes to julie and the red team. >> that was incredible. >> it was. >> but wait our final match up is michael, versus will. you better be ready, we have v probably most unsettling distraction of all waiting for you after the break, we'll be right back. we wil ♪ ♪ mercedes-benz is turning electric... completely on its head. bringing legendary design... and state-of-the-art technology... to a fully-electric suv. the all-new, all-electric eqb from mercedes-benz. see your dealer for exceptional offers on mercedes-benz electric vehicles. >> welcome do fox news live, i bryan llenas in new york a christmas gift from mother nature, a warming trend headed our way, a big relief for millions of americans who have been battling record low temperatures and winds. the arctic blast claimed at least 34 lives, knocked out power to thousands of homes and businesses in the north and left flooded roadway south, airlines worn particular take a while to unsnarl flight c cancellation and delays. >> high court may decide fate of title 42 that blocks migrants from seeking asylum in u.s., yesterday texas governor abbott send 3 more buses of migrant to tc where temperatures dipped below freeze, back to the great christmas debate. ♪ ♪ >> welcome back. to the great christmas debate. the distractions round is closing up, this one is a doozy. nothing, announces coming of holiday season like two classic tv specials, rudolph the red nose reindeer and a charlie brown christmas, michael, you tell us where rudolph should go down in history, but to keep it interesting -- elves? you have to argue while eating a fruitcake. that's right. >> bon appetit. >> aallergic. >> i.m now there is a few night amount of fruitcakes that are passed actioner round the world. >> charlie ground christmas is a great show, i will givearou you that. >> i'll feed when you. chr >> what the nailgd nation, i'm eating, rudolph, oh, my lord this is delish ios. ous. >> okay.oh m rudolph is a better show. not only is it a wonderful christmas lesson for everyone. it is also uniquely american. >> yes. >> think about america. u america.ni >> 13 colonies, 50 states that unify when the time gets tough e, thinkan aboud t hermie the dentist, he said let's be independent together. >> america. >> and also very pro second amendment, yukon cornelius has a pistol the whole time, we learn about christmas and other cultures and gunut o safety. and it a wonderful thing. >> michael. >> i have to say, save fruit case in case it comes down to fruitcake. >> will. >> you are arguing for auitc charlie brown christmas. >> indeed. >> i am, i'm a story aboutrgui the true christian means ofth christmas.e hris on one hand you havechri commercialism, animalco endangering, critical case theory sh i would argue you rudolph is another entering of cannon to the woke agenda. >> get feeding. c >> thahrt is right. in my movie, linus talks about the anunciation of the shepherds, on to us a child is born and ends movie with hark the harold angels sing, with real children's voices in my movie. >> don't you point that fruitcake at me. at least characters in rudolph was not traumatized. they didn't have the adult voices that said wawa wa . >> it was -- it is close, they are both good arguments and you did a great job. >> i love you tom shillue.yo >> i think michael's argument was great.yo >> i got you a present. >> it always pays -- >> it's a car. >> talk about united states and patriotism, but it isis not country god itm. is god country. >> that is the judge, give it up. >> all right, time to hear what other people think. we asked fox news own petenk hegseth to hit streets of nashville and find out. >> where are you from. and >> 2kgrad is from michigan. >> we're i am jeff from the same place.ic >>hi gladys and jeff and michigan, do you love christmas. >> love it. >> do you save wrapping paper? >> we fight about that, some families do it different. >> our family, did it my family did it gove different, my family tore into it when i was a kid, and rapped it up, her family be one at a time watch everyone. >> do you j just -- when you wrap do you do straight up wrapping or bows and ribbons?h >> >> freeze frame. what do you think -- jimmy, ribbons and bows or straight paper? which wa?y did gladys andt jeff and from michigan go. >> i'm saying they use the ribbons and bows. >> ribbons and bows. >> good answer, gladys and jeff, absolutely. >> let's see. >> we just wrap with the wrapping paper. >> there you go. i didn't see that one coming atin all. >> wow. >> they should be arrested.t >> allse right. that did not come out as i thought, michael. your turn, let's see how well you know your average american, role tape. >> your names. >> i am bob this is my wife sally. >> where you from. >> winter strawberry capitalra of thewb world, a favorite christmas carol. >> star of bethlehem. >> i think that is the name. >> yeah, i don't know, i don't have a favorite one, i like them all. >> see what you can glean from that, bing crosby sing write christmas, a great>> christmas song, i dream. ing -- >> of a white christmas ♪ ♪ >> there gum.re >>am, he knows it, nat king cold witcole, a faifamous records, chestnuts, which is number one team bing or nat? >> we'll go do michael. do you think bob and sally picked bing crosby or nat king cole? >> i was so thrown off by the people not using bows, it i>>s like, like some kind of a weird crazy reality, i want t>> io say, but what do i think they say?a i question myself, that is an enigma wrapped in a riddle but they didn't use a bow, our good friends and florida will go bing wheresng dee. -- bing crosby. >> we'll find out after the break.r th >> christmas interruptis. ♪ ♪ i see an amazing place. feels like a dream. a place of many wonders... and full of life. i open my eyes: earth is our pandora. ♪ ♪ >> okay. pete hegseth asked bob and sally from flint city, florida to choose between winbing and nat, michael you said bing crosby, let's see if you are right. >> you are on time bing or team nat? >> i will go with nat. >> i have to go with nat too. >> nat king cole. >> wow. >> that makes me happy. >> that makes me happy, that was my first guess, i thought i have to guess what i didn't think, i flipped too many times. >> all right that guy thought bing was a search engine. >> gerri, your chance to guess what the average american thinks. watch this tape. >> what is your name? >> i am ryan from minnesota. >> i'm myra from minnesota. >> ryan and myra, what brings you to nashville. >> we're celebrating our honeymoon, we got married a month ago, celebrating it and stuff. >> ho honeymoon trip to nashville. >> congratulations. >> thank you. >> newlyweds are here, your first christmas together. >> it is. as married couple. >> ryan and myra. resresolve, what do you pick. multicolor lights or white lights only?u pi >> easy. >> newlyweds, ryan and myraly from minnesota, dowe they like colored or white. >> tough, big question. people face it every year.ick. i look at these two fabulous young people, in their soul, i think they are multi. >> they are colorful. >> yes. >> so, let's see. >> multicolored.>> >> no contest mr. me, multicolored. >> wow.>> it who would have thought.est. >> pro multiy. >> janice, you are up next. you are ready. >> watch. >> okay.up >> good to see you, where y'all from. >> new york. >> long island.he >>re mass. >> what part, brian kilmeade's backyard, do you love christmas. >> love christmas, you have feelings withb it. >> yes to your friends from new york state from long island, gift cards, are theyif empowering or are they a cop-out? >> i think it a cop-out. >> last minutes gift, get someone a card, it is done. >> i don't think it -- i think it is empowering. >> i think it is empowering also. >> cop-out. >> and -- >> oh. long island crew is split on gift cards, one guy. janice? >> he is -- i live on long island, close do brian kilmeade. >> wow i. >> bragger. >> and i have given many a gift card in my day. so i say empowering. >> let's see. >> empowering.ppla >> that is it nice job janice. you know your long islanders. >> woo. >> good to go. >> long island t telepathy, will cain. >> what is your name. >> nick from maryland. >> kensington, maryland. whe >> outside of dc . >> this is your daughter.n >>ma yes this is -- >> are you excite for christmas. >> yes very. >> have you been naughty or nice. >> nice.cite >> you look nice.>> i believe, dad nice list. >> for sure. >> for sure. >> are you familiar with mariah carey's all i want for christmas. >> yes. >> you are even familiar with. >> yeah. >> all i want forever christmas is you, how about last christmas. >> last christmas -- >> i gave my heart ♪ ♪ the very next day you gave it away ♪ ♪ >> not bad. >> she is in the right town. >> right.'s >> you i know both of the songs. >> we do.to >> all i want for christmas or last christmas, what will they choose, mariah carey's all i want for christmas or wham's last christmas? >> father and daughter duo from kensington, marylander where mariah carey or wham! >> they are not giving me much. >> all right. we're going with george michael. >> yes. >> she sang it. >> role tape. >> mariah carey's all i want for christmas or wham!'s last christmas. >> all ior want for christmas. >> oh, all i want for christmas in mariah carey is the correct answer. >> the way shy sang that wham! song i thought he was go with that one. >> i out thunk myself. >> last but not lyft least, jewely. >> your name? >> rob shelby plano, texas. >> claire dallas. >> dallas. >> do you beeni elf on the shelf. >> of course. >> yes.o >> okay.yo >> yes, i love elf on the shelf. >> it seems fun. t >> do you consider elf on the shelf, terrific or terrifying? >> terrifying.rrif >> terrific. >> we know those two, the drum beat goes, terrific or terrifying? she said -- it is a tough one.ng >> difficult. >> look at way julie was leaning in, she is watchingh her, what is your sense of human nature. >> the gal in glasses. >> terrible or terrific? >> whole game. >> not a big deal and she wasn't looking in, she was passing out from the egg nog. >> she does not have kids yet, she does not understand. >> she has good taste in is up glasses, they were prada. the guy on the lift left with gulf outfit they have -- golf outfit they have money. >> you are -- do you knowno what elf on a shelf is.>> >> no, she does not haveknow kid. she does not knolf -- does not about the joyce. >> based on what they said, terrifying. >> yes. >> that was good work. the fact that she didn't have kids yet and prada. glasses. >> wait. >> like a congress. detective. >> very much. >> final round, lightning round. we know that the people in nashville think, how about america.thin oelves polled over a thousand people. after lennon and mccartney broke up as a songwritingtn timeey, they both wrote classic christmas songs. we will find out what america thinks right after this. ♪limu emu & doug♪ it's nice to unwind after a long week of telling people how liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. showtime. whoo! i'm on fire tonight. (limu squawks) yes! limu, you're a natural. we're not counting that. only pay for what you need. ♪liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty.♪ >> >> the question on the table, which former beatle wins christmas? john lennon for war is over or paul mc paul mccartney, wonderful christmastime, red team? >> i don't know. >> which one does america like more? >> we like war is over. >> they do that if they are social justice warriors. i want to feel good.just >> wonderful christmastime. >> >> i hate debbie downers. >> let's go mccartney. >> we're going paul. >> paul. llet's reveal answer. paul mccartney. we won christmas! we won christmas, jesus loves us. >> if you grew up in 70s your tree was draped in tinsel, tinsel, pretty or plague? green team? >> tinsel or plague? >> -- tinsel pretty or plain. >> you try clean it up later. >> plague?at u >> plague. >> >> reveal answer. >> yes, plague. tinsel. >> told you. >> great job, wow. >> i'm nervous. >> another shot. >> surveys? a >> wnoe asked a thousand americans which movie is better, a christmas story or elf? rored team, hello. >> elf. >> i think. >> hello. >> yeah. you have a hottie boom body k here rockingno the elf. >> reveal. >> it is elf. >> that is terrible. >> we won. we won. when we come back, mother of all christmas debates is dieback hard a christmas movie, what do you think? we'll find out what america thinks after this. not again... oh no... for the gifts you won't forget. happy holidays from mercedes-benz. see your mercedes-benz dealer today for exceptional offers. all across the country, people are working hard to build a better future. so we're hard at work helping them achieve financial freedom. we're proud to serve people everywhere, in investing for the retirement they envision. from the plains to the coasts, we help americans invest for their future. and help communities thrive. ♪ ♪ >> we're down to it this is th we question for the ages,ques we asked 1 thousand americans to settle yule tide debate, it die hard a christmas movie, green team for the whole enchilada. an extra 100 for this. >> what? >>yo hey, hey.an >> that is fair. >> so fair. poi >> cheater.r >> this is what the show iss about.sh >> cheating. >> deal with it. >> holy hell. >> is die hard a christmas movie? >> yes. >> bruce was my first husband. gerri willis, bruce willis,an d.i thought they loved him still, i love the movie, i think it is a christmas movie, there is a tree. >> it say christmas movie. >> all right. >> final answer. >> it is. >> america? i >> oh,t. no. snow balls. >> i love it. welcome to an emotional knock plaza. >> america almost eventually splie t on that question. but they eked it out on the no side, no getting around it we live in a divided nation, we're not d divided here. >> are we. >> no, because we won. >> red team, you did win. but in the spirit of the season, both charities are getting a big fat check. >> [applause] you thank you so much for joining us at great christmas debate. despite our differences, one thing we can agree on, merry christmas everyone! 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